Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 6

[Puggle]

Police raided 3 properties linked to local washing machine repairman last month seizing a mattress , vehicle and computer.
Three properties ??
Was the caravan cabin linked?
Or is this an error?

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...ew-search-launched-for-missing-three-year-old

The inclusion of the cabin/caravan by the media - stating it had been searched earlier in that same week was very curious to me...

It was stated that people had called the police because they heard a child/infant crying in the weeks after William went missing.

So the big question for me is... why did it take 5 months for the police to check out the caravan park ...or were they suggesting it took 5 months for the people to report it??....Doesn't ring true and doesn't make any sense.
But yet it was included in that weeks breaking story of BS Business and House being searched.

The houses immediately surrounding the home where William were searched and yes even their septic tanks were drained...yet barely a mention..why?

 

[katydid23]

Makes me sick to think *if* WS is involved, that he could just be getting up and around like normal. Who could do that?!
Especially when sooner or later, he/she/they are going to be caught, the jig is up, they can't give WTs family that closure a bit sooner..

That is what makes me think that WS MIGHT be innocent. He is around a lot of children. Wouldn't one of them have come forward after by now if he had been inappropriate? I know kids don't always tell, but after it became front page news, I'd think some one might have told if he had ever been dodgy. I might be wrong, but it does niggle at me.

 

[Puggle]

And another sad thought is this man could be the victim of a targeted attack - Lots of people don't like having their kids taken
away from them. The Police would be duty bound to follow up on any anonymous tip that had any credibility...people close to them
could add info that others would be unaware of....be it true or not.

 

[Puggle]

That is what makes me think that WS MIGHT be innocent. He is around a lot of children. Wouldn't one of them have come forward after by now if he had been inappropriate? I know kids don't always tell, but after it became front page news, I'd think some one might have told if he had ever been dodgy. I might be wrong, but it does niggle at me.

It was mentioned in msm that BS and his wife were being interviewed early in December by FACS for some reason??... Apparently the Police were unaware of this...or at least that is what was reported.

 

[sosocurious]

The inclusion of the cabin/caravan by the media - stating it had been searched earlier in that same week was very curious to me...

It was stated that people had called the police because they heard a child/infant crying in the weeks after William went missing.

So the big question for me is... why did it take 5 months for the police to check out the caravan park ...or were they suggesting it took 5 months for the people to report it??....Doesn't ring true and doesn't make any sense.
But yet it was included in that weeks breaking story of BS Business and House being searched.

The houses immediately surrounding the home where William were searched and yes even their septic tanks were drained...yet barely a mention..why?

Yes Puggle
Something a bit off with the Cabin/caravan.
Victorian couple stayed from 28 Sept - 9 Oct that is over 2 weeks later.
Owner gave the police the couples address and off LE went.
Search has not gone interstate though.
maybe it was nothing, but why mention it?

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/2830409/william-tyrell-focus-turns-to-bonny-hills-home/

 

[Karo]

It was mentioned in msm that BS and his wife were being interviewed early in December by FACS for some reason??... Apparently the Police were unaware of this...or at least that is what was reported.

Any number of reasons could be, foster care is difficult when bio parents are wanting their kids returned and it could be a possibility that a child was in trouble at school or even that the children might be reaching a return date to their parents.

 

[SouthAussie]

It was mentioned in msm that BS and his wife were being interviewed early in December by FACS for some reason??... Apparently the Police were unaware of this...or at least that is what was reported.

Yes, it was reportedly about his 'treatment of children'. And the FACS interview happened shortly before the police commenced a focus on him.


"The tradesman whose home was searched by police investigating the disappearance of William Tyrell was reportedly interviewed over his treatment of children just days before detectives turned their attention towards him.

According to News Corp, three children who had been living with Bill Spedding and his wife have since been removed.

Mr Spedding had been initially interviewed by Family and Community Services (FACS) workers on December 9 last year over an issue separate to the Tyrell case ... "

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/26124863/spedding-interviewed-over-treatment-of-children/

 

[SamandJo]

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...l-speddings-care/story-fnpn118l-1227198878302

Also here

 

[SamandJo]

Anyone know if the kids have been put back in his care since then?

 

[sosocurious]

Anyone know if the kids have been put back in his care since then?

Someone said down thread they had returned but who knows??
Removed implies to me - just that removed from their care. imo

 

[Puggle]

Anyone know if the kids have been put back in his care since then?

I haven't seen any reports of them having been returned....I would think they wouldn't have though - if only to protect them
from the whole media circus as it stands at the moment.

 

[sosocurious]

I haven't seen any reports of them having been returned....I would think they wouldn't have though - if only to protect them
from the whole media circus as it stands at the moment.

If someone is a POI in a case - that it is not by chance that sexual crime squad is involved from almost the beginning -- I would hope not. imo

 

[Puggle]

Yes Puggle
Something a bit off with the Cabin/caravan.
Victorian couple stayed from 28 Sept - 9 Oct that is over 2 weeks later.
Owner gave the police the couples address and off LE went.
Search has not gone interstate though.
maybe it was nothing, but why mention it?

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/2830409/william-tyrell-focus-turns-to-bonny-hills-home/

Yes the whole after the fact reporting or at least "after the fact" police search of the cabin seems way off

and it's inclusion the same week as his home/business ...makes me wonder what... if any connections are being hinted at.

 

[SouthAussie]

FACS informed one of the mothers of the boys that they were investigating Spedding. I think it is likely they told her because they were removing the boys in December, and she has a right to know where her son would be living. I don't believe they are obliged to keep her informed of anything else, other than her son's living arrangements, while he is being fostered.


"The mother who wants her child back said she was informed by FACs in December it was investigating Mr Spedding but would not tell her why."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...l-speddings-care/story-fnpn118l-1227198878302

 

[they'll get you]

That is what makes me think that WS MIGHT be innocent. He is around a lot of children. Wouldn't one of them have come forward after by now if he had been inappropriate? I know kids don't always tell, but after it became front page news, I'd think some one might have told if he had ever been dodgy. I might be wrong, but it does niggle at me.

I agree Katy, I read BS sometimes had a sidekick helping with some jobs.

I also wonder if Benaroon Drive was a known lovers lane for all types which could up the odds of more people loitering around there.

 

[Angeline]

I haven't seen any reports of them being returned either.

That's interesting. I hadn't connected those dots before. No wonder LE are interested in him. Was previously interviewed over his treatment of children, was meant to be at grandma's house on the day, his story to police didn't add up in their opinion.

I wonder if FACS tipped them off, or if it was FACS and a member of the public. I remember FACS wouldn't say much... something about it being normal for them to work with the police.

 

[sosocurious]

I haven't seen any reports of them being returned either.

That's interesting. I hadn't connected those dots before. No wonder LE are interested in him. Was previously interviewed over his treatment of children, was meant to be at grandma's house on the day, his story to police didn't add up in their opinion.

I wonder if FACS tipped them off, or if it was FACS and a member of the public. I remember FACS wouldn't say much... something about it being normal for them to work with the police.

With continual and lengthy undercover surveillance being done on illegal internet sites these days - the mind boggles.

 

[butterstick]

I'm sorry but no matter what WS says, people will shine the worst light on it.

If LE had any evidence against him then he'd be detained beyond the questioning he has received so far.

The digging up of the back yard and the emptying of the septic tank was a highly visible thing for us. It's a very bad look for him. But that's not to say there aren't other people who have suffered similar incursions, just less visible. (I'm not saying the police shouldn't be doing this).

But.. if they found one dodgy photo, or one incriminating item of clothing, or one dodgy internet search... anything... if they have anything like that then there is no way on earth he'd be home.

The conspiracy theories emanating out of this group (such as maybe abuse photos have been found online) just don't add up. The police would come down on him like a tonne of bricks if they had found one hair or one fibre.

 

[SouthAussie]

Cases are built and won on circumstantial evidence. Without a hair or a fibre. But with many other pieces of evidence … mobile phone pings, inconsistent alibis, expected whereabouts, witness sightings, known behaviours, timelines ....

There are no conspiracy theories here. Just theories.

Other than anything involving William's family, we are free to discuss and speculate on whatever theories we choose.

 

[they'll get you]

I'm sorry but no matter what WS says, people will shine the worst light on it.

If LE had any evidence against him then he'd be detained beyond the questioning he has received so far.

The digging up of the back yard and the emptying of the septic tank was a highly visible thing for us. It's a very bad look for him. But that's not to say there aren't other people who have suffered similar incursions, just less visible. (I'm not saying the police shouldn't be doing this).

But.. if they found one dodgy photo, or one incriminating item of clothing, or one dodgy internet search... anything... if they have anything like that then there is no way on earth he'd be home.

The conspiracy theories emanating out of this group (such as maybe abuse photos have been found online) just don't add up. The police would come down on him like a tonne of bricks if they had found one hair or one fibre.

Butterstick, I don't believe these are conspiracy theories, we are sleuths and as we have to MSM link any info so it's all in the news anyway. I'm no guru when it comes to police protocol but what I've seen during my time sleuthing (that is what this site is about) is that many murderers walk free with obvious scratches to their face and body (Baden-Clay) or a witness saying they saw the actual murder take place with video surveillance proving the incident. (Gittany) these all walked free while LE searched for more....we all felt these were guilty and scratching our heads wondering why they were able to perform BUSINESS AS USUAL.