Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 9

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Originally Posted by NoStoneUnturnedAus
When I have healed and regained my strength I feel I need to use my personal experience and gained knowledge (as awful as it is) to raise awareness.

Your story has prompted me to contact my local high school to have a chat to teens about talking about incidents that have occurred in the past and in secret.

RSBM
Both of you are amazing!!! :loveyou:
 
Agreed. And to me, it is a kind of murder ... in that it 'kills' a little one's childhood, robs them of the innocence that should accompany a healthy childhood, strikes long-lasting fear into them, and undoubtedly makes them a different person from the one they were before the abuse.

I wish I was innocent again.

But - I'm so better informed this way
 
How do i upload a pic - easi,y

Fabre, this is from the Websleuths FAQ.

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Thank you for sharing your story. Awareness is amazing. Your story has prompted me to contact my local high school to have a chat to teens about talking about incidents that have occurred in the past and in secret.

I came out after 20 years. It was too late for me, I'd already been Dux of primary school to then get expelled from 2 high schools and hate education (due to drug use). what I am seeing and hearing is that 20 years is about the usual time for victims to talk about the crimes against them. These kids are in uni degrees or apprenticeships by then and turn to drugs or other means to cope. Work at a uni now and see this first hand.

It's not on
 
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Use that button on any reply box, then select the file from your computer. I've never gotten the url option to work.

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Just my opinion, but I think if you're argument for or against the death penalty is related to the financial costs, you're kind of missing the point.

It's about a penalty, not what is most economically beneficial.

Is the crime inexcusable? Are they going to be rehabilitated?

It's not about money, it's not about prevention, it is about penalising a criminal for their actions.

For mine, that makes the decision very simple.

Death sentences don't work. Not any better than life without parole. Death sentences don't work as a deterrent. Texas, which has the death penalty has more murders per capita than states like Connecticut which don't. Punishment shouldn't be about revenge.
 
In the states here, we've passed child protection laws after a child abduction to prevent it from happening again; Meghan's Law, Amber Alerts, etc. I only hope that will all the interest in William Tyrell's case that Australia can do something of the kind.
It's horrible that a known pedophile (and others it seems) have been in your midst for 30 years. We have the National Sex Offender Registry so anyone can check out a map for offenders in their area. The map does not just include pedophiles, but sexual assaults of adults as well. If you want laws like this, you have to work for them, though.
 
It's 730am and I am about to delve into South Aussies 'Gardner link'. I haven't even had coffee yet.

WHERE IS WILLIAM???
 
It's 730am and I am about to delve into South Aussies 'Gardner link'. I haven't even had coffee yet.

WHERE IS WILLIAM???

I'm constantly wondering if he's still alive?
Sometimes I have a glimmer of hope he's alive somewhere but then I feel he's dead in the bush where the police were searching.
 
I'm constantly wondering if he's still alive?
Sometimes I have a glimmer of hope he's alive somewhere but then I feel he's dead in the bush where the police were searching.

I try to read between the lines of what Jubelin says. I get the impression he doesn't believe he's alive, but he doesn't have proof. He said something about not wanting to take hope away from the parents. That could be why he is careful with his words.

Now that we have reason to believe BS took William, the next question is: How did he do it? Did he drive right up to the house in his van and no one heard or saw him?
 
A defence lawyers job is to defend their client and so of course they will advise this. They will advise this even when they're pretty damn sure their client is guilty. They will advise this even when a missing child's life is at stake. They will do what they can to make the job of the police harder, including advising to refuse to give a statement. It's merely a tactic, no different to police applying pressure to a POI by tipping off the media. A defence lawyer will also trash a good woman's name in court in an effort to get their client off (see Allison Baden-Clay). They're not exactly saints, they're just doing their job as are the police.

Lawyers often have far less interest in the truth than the police, that's for sure. For those of us who want to see true justice, well I'm on the side of the police, with good faith that they want the RIGHT person behind bars, and they work damn hard to do it too.


Thankyou Tigerlily75....perfectly put *advertiser censored*
 
Just to weigh in on sentencing, my understanding also is that if you increase the incarceration penalty for sexual assaults, there is more likelihood of the victim being murdered during the assault as well. I have often thought the sentences are a mockery to the victims however they take into account the risk to the persons life by increasing sentences.
Death sentences don't work. Not any better than life without parole. Death sentences don't work as a deterrent. Texas, which has the death penalty has more murders per capita than states like Connecticut which don't. Punishment shouldn't be about revenge.
 
And, unfortunately, the short sentencing (and historic protection of offenders) has led to this …


Child sexual assault trials, both current and historic, comprise nearly 60 per cent of all sexual assault trials before the NSW District Court each year.

“In the past the term of imprisonment has been too short for an offender to successfully complete sex offender programs, resulting in their release without treatment,” Mr Brown said.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/media-releases-premier/life-sentences-child-sex-offenders
 
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