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And was he seen in that more populated area?
Are you able to provide more details about that theory please?
As I said it's a theory (among many theories discussed here way back). Had been seen then clearly it would not be a theory, it would be a fact.

The theory is based on kids of WT's age being able to run a fair distance in a short time.
 
Yes, based on he keeps different hours to her.... so based on nothing, except what she thinks is odd as far as I understand.
But at least a direction to point quite "innocently" as a worried grandma. Though I don't know, if she was so very worried. No idea, unfortunately. What I know is: the little devil (as she said once) was gone.
 
That makes no sense. You said certain people had certain connections. Who are you referring to?
I don't refer to people, who haven't lived in Kendall and didn't know people inclusive pedos.
That has to be enough, and it makes sense.
Although my theory maybe wrong, of course. The "balcony fall" though in my eyes is nothing better as a theory, for example.
 
There are some pedos, who have no idea, where they were that day and what they did, afaik, had lost memory or were completely drunk around noon already. You can't exclude them from anything as they had no alibi. They may have been an accomplice helping someone, who would help themselves in return sometime in the future. My imagination was always a kind of "relay race" with little William until he was far enough away (300 km?). Nobody harmed him, everyone just passed him on. Of course, where the boy ended and in which (bad?) environment, Idk. - All speculation and MOO.

I think there is validity to at least part of the theory.
I don't know about any connection to 48 Benaroon Dr, but I do think it is possible that William was moved on.

Whether that means in a more local sense, or in an international sense, something spurred that Crime Stoppers alert to all 26 Crime Stoppers countries for a missing Aussie child. That seems unprecedented.


"On Sunday, NSW Crime Stoppers reportedly appealed to 26 countries to help find the boy"
Link (2 Mar 2015)
 
Would SFR submit a brief of evidence to the ODPP recommending a suspect be charged with perverting the course of justice and moving a corpse,allowing it to be known publicly, their theory, if they had a whole list of other suspects they still thought caused WT's disappearance, running concurrently? If so, can you please explain why and how that works?
Since many want to look at any theory other than the publicly announced suspect for WT's disappearance,the FFC, do I understand that is because there is no longer confidence in WT's investigation? And if so, what changed for members and why?
 
I think, the investigation into FFC makes sense and will remain, only the circumstances are different possibly. But you can try to put pressure to someone, when you are supposedly suspecting murder or omitted assistance after an accident, all the while hoping for a confession: Yes, I did something (namely ....), but I didn't do, what I am accused of.
Would be so relieving, OMG. - Won't happen. :(
 
"I think police want the public to blame the DPP instead of themselves for failing to solve the case."
(Comment by @JLZ in the last thread) Link


I was thinking about this last night, mostly because I am currently reading Frank & Fearless by Nicholas Cowdery.
Nicholas Cowdery was the NSW Director of Public Prosecutions for 17 years, and in this book he speaks of high profile cases that he chose to prosecute or not prosecute.

He says there is always someone hating the DPP's decisions, whether that be the police or the accused. The ODPP prosecutors become immune to that. They are an independent office that is designed to run with no political affiliations (although every few years politicians try to change that). They simply look at the law, and the law is their guide in their decisions.

4½ weeks now since it was leaked that a brief was given to the DPP. And the brief was said to have been provided 'earlier in June' so it could be up to 7 or 8 weeks that the DPP have had the brief.

I wonder if there will be another leak, if the DPP declines (or has declined) to charge and prosecute.
 
I was thinking about this last night, mostly because I am currently reading Frank & Fearless by Nicholas Cowdery.
Nicholas Cowdery was the NSW Director of Public Prosecutions for 17 years, and in this book he speaks of high profile cases that he chose to prosecute or not prosecute.

Aside: Re my bolding, does he have anything to say about the Christopher Dawson case?
 
Aside: Re my bolding, does he have anything to say about the Christopher Dawson case?

I am only just starting Chp 11. No mention yet. He is about to launch into the Caroline Byrne case.

He has already spoken about a few cases. Like the one against The Chaser's Julian Morrow, when the police charged Julian for pulling a fake motorcade prank during APEC in 2007. He decided not to prosecute that case. The police were livid. He thought the police were embarrassed (the police waved The Chaser pranksters through a security checkpoint without even checking).

Notably, the police charged Julian Morrow then the DPP declined to prosecute.

Which is not what is happening in this case. Probably why lots of 'experts' are saying that the police have the power to charge, if they think they have enough evidence. But they haven't charged FM. So why the leak?
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I think there is validity to at least part of the theory.
I don't know about any connection to 48 Benaroon Dr, but I do think it is possible that William was moved on.

Whether that means in a more local sense, or in an international sense, something spurred that Crime Stoppers alert to all 26 Crime Stoppers countries for a missing Aussie child. That seems unprecedented.


"On Sunday, NSW Crime Stoppers reportedly appealed to 26 countries to help find the boy"

Link (2 Mar 2015)
BBM

https://www.concertarchives.org/bands/5-seconds-of-summer--5?page=27#concert-tableI

Ms Collins claimed the Clifford family briefly gave William and his biological parents a place to stay when he was a baby.
'William lived with Daryl and Karen and Michael for a few months when he was a baby,' she said.
'They took Karlie and Brendan in to live with them'.


https://www.kidspot.com.au/parentin...s/news-story/f08e0bcec26559597616c89a3c1913d9
I’m still a ‘suspect’ and the police have yet to sit down and have a proper chat with me and find out what I know.

All of the above public and msm information is why I think crimestoppers in 26 different countries were alerted to WT's disappearance. At that time of the investigation, it seems SFR were investigating bio associates/networks and possibly up til the inquest when Craddock announced that neither foster or bio parents were being looked at as responsible for WT's disappearance but he could not rule out their associates. MOO
 
So...FA had inside information that Williams foster grandma's neighbour was away?
And then FA had inside information that William and his family where going to be there?
And then FA had inside information that William and his family where going to be there a day early?

Would a dero pedo really be so well revered and connected in a small clicky country town to be so up on the local communities family itinaries??
Just by reading the local paper, there are often events/ functions which local groups are apart celebrations, farewells and retirement recorded in it, even online, about a month before hand.
Eg I found a local clipping of the Local comminuty Newspaper from the 1981 among my Father belongings, he lived three hours away from his family. Dated April 1981 Mrs Shadow@light (his Mum,my Grandmother) hosted a lunch on Saturday, next month at local Bowling Club who been a proud Member and former President of the local Bowls and Darts a farewell lunch as Mrs Shadow@light and Co are embarking on a Caravan trip around Australia to last two years or more they look forward to seeing family in Western Australia at Christmas this year."
k-mac, IMO, people can plan if given enough time. My experience has been in mid 1981,the foster family turned abusive on me, mail and postcards from family were withheld, over period of time until mid 1982(I was removed) the abuse progressed worse(eg by earlier 1982, their teenage son held a knife at my neck many times saying" I can kill you, Mum would believe me I did it in self defence Mum would tell the Welfare you had run away, no one would find your body etc" Horrible thing was my family turned up at time arrange, the foster Family knew arrangement been made for family to see me, my Grandparant/family and Co arrived at the foster family home to find it empty , we moved two days earlier.
Even Australia and Oversea Film Industry, have had problems, as the local paper mentioned such and such film or TV Productions are being filmed in our town next month etc prevention have been done, You get people trying to get in background,this happened on a produstion I was in just before COVID stuck. The worst incident, I witnessed was in the filming of Ghost Rider, the Fair Scene which was filmed outside rural town. Within two days there was two assualts on children, I helped the girl would had been grabbed in one of the fun tent or the mock up enterance to the Tunnel Of Love Enterance and Exit, in the semi dark she managed to get away, reported straight to the production crew, few more couple ladies Extra walked around the young tweens and kids talked to them found out there had been more assualts. Production crew launched a background check found out there was 10 Convicted Sexual Offenders they were removed from production. Even over two weeks filming Crew had to check fair ground scene as people were hiding in them to apart of the Extras(all got the information from local paper on line months earlier saying the film Ghost Rider was being filmed, some traveled instate chance to see the stars or worse) Production Crew tighten secruity which was good, mainly around the tweens and kids but things still happened as we were filming throughout night it was easy for someone to slip in the big crowd scene so people were on their guard, even us ladies had to walk in groups I was told later in the group I was not in, situation really got bad, lot of extras and people were removed.
IMO what happened to Wiliam and other missing children it only takes 10 seconds.
 
Just by reading the local paper, there are often events/ functions which local groups are apart celebrations, farewells and retirement recorded in it, even online, about a month before hand.
Eg I found a local clipping of the Local comminuty Newspaper from the 1981 among my Father belongings, he lived three hours away from his family. Dated April 1981 Mrs Shadow@light (his Mum,my Grandmother) hosted a lunch on Saturday, next month at local Bowling Club who been a proud Member and former President of the local Bowls and Darts a farewell lunch as Mrs Shadow@light and Co are embarking on a Caravan trip around Australia to last two years or more they look forward to seeing family in Western Australia at Christmas this year."
k-mac, IMO, people can plan if given enough time. My experience has been in mid 1981,the foster family turned abusive on me, mail and postcards from family were withheld, over period of time until mid 1982(I was removed) the abuse progressed worse(eg by earlier 1982, their teenage son held a knife at my neck many times saying" I can kill you, Mum would believe me I did it in self defence Mum would tell the Welfare you had run away, no one would find your body etc" Horrible thing was my family turned up at time arrange, the foster Family knew arrangement been made for family to see me, my Grandparant/family and Co arrived at the foster family home to find it empty , we moved two days earlier.
Even Australia and Oversea Film Industry, have had problems, as the local paper mentioned such and such film or TV Productions are being filmed in our town next month etc prevention have been done, You get people trying to get in background,this happened on a produstion I was in just before COVID stuck. The worst incident, I witnessed was in the filming of Ghost Rider, the Fair Scene which was filmed outside rural town. Within two days there was two assualts on children, I helped the girl would had been grabbed in one of the fun tent or the mock up enterance to the Tunnel Of Love Enterance and Exit, in the semi dark she managed to get away, reported straight to the production crew, few more couple ladies Extra walked around the young tweens and kids talked to them found out there had been more assualts. Production crew launched a background check found out there was 10 Convicted Sexual Offenders they were removed from production. Even over two weeks filming Crew had to check fair ground scene as people were hiding in them to apart of the Extras(all got the information from local paper on line months earlier saying the film Ghost Rider was being filmed, some traveled instate chance to see the stars or worse) Production Crew tighten secruity which was good, mainly around the tweens and kids but things still happened as we were filming throughout night it was easy for someone to slip in the big crowd scene so people were on their guard, even us ladies had to walk in groups I was told later in the group I was not in, situation really got bad, lot of extras and people were removed.
IMO what happened to Wiliam and other missing children it only takes 10 seconds.
Im really sorry your childhood was like that shadow@light.

But I don't see your connection to my post.
What you have described is pedo's getting lost amongst a large number of people.

Williams disappearance was extremely isolated in theory and also in location for random possible interaction.

In broad daylight all under the eyes of mum and grandma on private property.
 
"I think police want the public to blame the DPP instead of themselves for failing to solve the case."
(Comment by @JLZ in the last thread) Link


I was thinking about this last night, mostly because I am currently reading Frank & Fearless by Nicholas Cowdery.
Nicholas Cowdery was the NSW Director of Public Prosecutions for 17 years, and in this book he speaks of high profile cases that he chose to prosecute or not prosecute.

He says there is always someone hating the DPP's decisions, whether that be the police or the accused. The ODPP prosecutors become immune to that. They are an independent office that is designed to run with no political affiliations (although every few years politicians try to change that). They simply look at the law, and the law is their guide in their decisions.

4½ weeks now since it was leaked that a brief was given to the DPP. And the brief was said to have been provided 'earlier in June' so it could be up to 7 or 8 weeks that the DPP have had the brief.

I wonder if there will be another leak, if the DPP declines (or has declined) to charge and prosecute.

I think if there’s an arrest it will be around the 12th of September. JMO.
 
I think if there’s an arrest it will be around the 12th of September. JMO.

Zooming in on particular date? Sounds like inside info to me. ;)

On what we know of proposed charges through MSM reports, my own guess is that the ODDP will not agree to proceed.
 
I wonder if there will be another leak, if the DPP declines (or has declined) to charge and prosecute.
According to ABC, if DPP declines then the inquest will resume or be finalised. If so we won't need a leak.

If the DPP decides there is not enough evidence to lay criminal charges William's case will go back to the Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame who is expected to hold more hearings in the coming months.
 
I am only just starting Chp 11. No mention yet. He is about to launch into the Caroline Byrne case.
RSBM
Awful case. Gary Jubelin was a part of that. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/g...n/news-story/64a2bcc17a6bdeebe6f38fc746e8f279

Gordon Wood's plea to cops: Don't do me in​

Under questioning from then-Detective Sergeant Gary Jubelin, the English-born former driver of Rene Rivkin suddenly became fearful of police intentions.

"Sorry, mate, but I feel a bit under attack here ... I'm sitting here now scared to, I'm scared to talk to you 'cause you're having a go at me," Wood said.



NSW police have so much to answer for. IMO
 
RSBM
Awful case. Gary Jubelin was a part of that. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/g...n/news-story/64a2bcc17a6bdeebe6f38fc746e8f279

Gordon Wood's plea to cops: Don't do me in​

Under questioning from then-Detective Sergeant Gary Jubelin, the English-born former driver of Rene Rivkin suddenly became fearful of police intentions.

"Sorry, mate, but I feel a bit under attack here ... I'm sitting here now scared to, I'm scared to talk to you 'cause you're having a go at me," Wood said.



NSW police have so much to answer for. IMO

Caroline's father remains absolutely certain that Wood was responsible. IMO, he is correct.
 
A retired long-time cop I know used to refer to Cowdery as the Director of Pathetic Prosecutions. Said he was widely despised by police for the 16 years of his reign.

Yes, he definitely says that the police didn't like some of his decisions. But the DPP can only work with the evidence that the police give them. One of the reasons why it is important for the ODPP to remain non-political and independent.

Anyway, it is an interesting read, hearing from the prosecution aspect. Especially knowing where William's case is apparently sitting at the moment.
 
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