AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #1

[cluciano63]

So, let's just say they don't believe she left / was removed from the area. Would that indicate they believe she was kidnapped or is hiding in the area? It's been a long time since she vanished... I would think she would be ready to surface by now if she had left of her own accord. It's such a mess.

I don't like to say what I think.

 

[SandSage]

I don't like to say what I think.

Oh dear. *goosebumps*

 

[SandSage]

You know something else I just thought of SandSage? Maybe she had one of those prepaid cell phones. Or one with a minute plan like the ones from Cricket etc. And she used her phone so much that night that she ran out of minutes.

Yes, you are right about us 'idealists' who find it so difficult to be 'realists' especially when the 'reality' could be so horrible.

I'm still hoping for Rocky Point. How ideal is that?

LOL!

Heading to bed now. I'm fresh out of new ideas now and my pillow is calling me.

G'nite.

<3

Goodnight MissD. Maybe tomorrow will bring us all some news (credible, authentic, verifiable news). <3

 

[MissDemeanor]

Okay...now I am really gone. Even though my little light stays green.

Cya tomorrow!

:seeya:

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Oh dear. *goosebumps*

I think
Someone from that neighborhood or someone in a car on 5th street abducted her after she left to head to the AMPM.

I think this is what frustrates me personally - I feel the suspects are right under LEs nose.

Going to bed. Praying for hope for Adrienne, clarity and wisdom for the LE working this case, and peace for Adrienne's family.

Miracles do happen. Adrienne, we have hope you will come back to
Your loved ones.

God bless guys. Night. And thank you for your dedication to keeping this case alive.

 

[CluelessWonder]

I started to read about this case last night. Did Adrienne attempt to call her roommates after her accident?

 

[Autonomik]

No real news in this article but its refreshing tto hear something about AS so i dont go crazy thinking us group of strangers are the only ones looking into her disappearance.

EDIT: Wont let me link article it asterisks the name out...so just search adrienne salinas all voices and you will find the article

 

[SandSage]

No real news in this article but its refreshing tto hear something about AS so i dont go crazy thinking us group of strangers are the only ones looking into her disappearance.

Don't see a link but your words pretty well summed up how I think we're ALL feeling!

ETA: Thanks for the edit Autonomik. Removed asterisks - webpage is evidently forbidden but found the article by removing the www and asterisks and dot com / in addy.

 

[SandSage]

I started to read about this case last night. Did Adrienne attempt to call her roommates after her accident?

If anyone knows the answer to this question, they're not saying so. Only phone contact mentioned is: 1) with boyfriend (who was called but never actually contacted) and 2) the cab driver (who is "not a person of interest").

 

[WideOpen]

I'm thinking about Adrienne.

3:00 am Left apartment according to roommates.

There is a huge amount of unexplained time between when she was reported to have left the apartment and when the 911 call came in. The accident was less than a mile from her home. Where was she and what was she doing?

3:44 am 911 call/reported Accident.

jmo

 

[WideOpen]

Originally Posted by mamacita
Saturday, June 15th:

3:00am &#8211; Last seen by roommates when she left to go to boyfriend&#8217;s home. (1) Her apartment is on Ash Avenue (6)
3:44am &#8211; Police received a 911 call that Adrienne&#8217;s car had hit a median at Ash & Rio Salado Parkway. Passerby saw car driving erratically behind her, so she moved over and let the car pass. (4) Adrienne&#8217;s car was then driven less than a mile to Brown and Roosevelt. Police say that from there, she walked a ¼ mile back to her apartment where she changed clothes, leaving behind her wallet and keys. (9) Witness says &#8220;they&#8221; in her 911 call. Operator asked how many people she thought was in the car and the witness said she thought there were two, she thought she saw one in the passenger seat. (10).
4:10-4:17am &#8211; Adrienne&#8217;s cell phone called the boyfriend 11 times, but he didn&#8217;t answer. (4)
4:23am &#8211; Adrienne called the cab company requesting to be picked up at AMPM. Nearest driver was about 20 minutes away. Cab driver&#8217;s name is Tom.
4:30am &#8211; Person driving to work found naked woman&#8217;s body in the street. Not sure if this is related. Near McClintock and Baseline. (2) &#8211; this woman has since been identified and her boyfriend has been arrested for murder. Still unknown if related to Adrienne&#8217;s disappearance, but I&#8217;m keeping this on the timeline just in case, because of the timing.
4:43 or 4:47am &#8211; Text sent from Adrienne&#8217;s phone to boyfriend&#8217;s phone said she was going to his house. (1 & 4)
5:00am &#8211; Last seen near Brown & Roosevelt streets. (3) Another reports states last seen at this location at 4:30am (7) -- not sure who she was last seen BY, or if this goes off pings, but this is also the same location her car was found.
5:04am &#8211; Cab driver (Tom) called Adrienne to make sure she was headed to the gas station. (11)
5:05am - Cab driver (Tom) called Adrienne to make sure she was headed to the gas station (again). (11) Previous reports indicated: Police said Adrienne called a cab company, but the cabbie couldn&#8217;t find her at a Tempe convenience store. (4) &#8220;Salinas asked for a driver to meet her at the AMPM gas station at the intersection of Hardy & University. Investigators told CBS 5 she never made it there&#8221; (5). LE saw surveillance of cab driver at AMPM but there was no sign of Adrienne there. LE subsequently questioned the cab driver and searched his home. AMPM is less than ¼ mile from Adrienne&#8217;s apartment. (9)
5:06am &#8211; Adrienne called the cab driver (Tom) saying she&#8217;d be there in a minute.
5:07am &#8211; Cab driver (Tom) called Adrienne again, looking for her, but the phone went to voicemail. (11) Her phone was turned off (1) or died (8).

Sunday, June 16th:

2:00pm &#8211; AS&#8217;s father found her car two blocks away from her apartment. (8)
Her Father called LE that afternoon. (8)

Other known info:

After leaving her disabled car, she walked less than a ¼ mile to her home and changed clothes and left again, leaving her wallet and keys behind. (9)
LE has questioned the cab driver and searched his home. Say he&#8217;s not a suspect at this time. (9) LE also took a DNA sample from cab driver (11).
LE did a sweep of Tempe Town Lake and found nothing. (9)
LE says that BF has been cleared and has fully cooperated. (10)
Cab procedures: "In a place like this, they would get out, look around, make sure the person wasn't in the store," Simon said. He said his son did just that but never saw Salinas. (11)
News footage of BF: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...an-reward.html
News footage of roommate: http://www.kpho.com/story/22676371/t...d-a-half-later

1: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...nclick_check=1
2: http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/22...n-tempe-street
3: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...#ixzz2WWHosmWu
4: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...nues-abrk.html
5: http://www.kpho.com/story/22627002/m...medium=twitter
6: https://photos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...08049287_n.jpg
7: http://www.tempe.gov/index.aspx?page=31&recordid=1579
8: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...an-reward.html
9: http://www.kpho.com/story/22687012/m...er-safe-return
10: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...ing-Tempe-girl
11: http://kpho.membercenter.worldnow.co...een-speaks-out

Once again bringing this over, thanks to the original poster.
jmo

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

If there is any connection by Annovedwin and Adrienne (I will intersect both stories now.):

Adrienne was calling the cab at 4:23 am after/while walking away from dropping her car.

The body of Annovedwin was found and called in by witness at 4:30 am. I am estimating the time her body was dropped was probably around 4:20 am.

From the location on Minton where the body was found straight up from Baseline (where George lived with Annovedwin) to the location Adrienne would have been last known walking around Roosevelt and brown @ 4:30, it would have only been an 11 minute drive max for George.

So:

4:20 am George drops body at Minton dr. He then takes S college up to Apache, then heads due west as Apache turns to Mill around 4:24am. Around 4:26 am George turns onto University from Mill. 4:27 am George takes a Right heading North on Farmer.

4:23 am Adrienne has texted her bf "I'm coming over" and is now calling the cab to meet her at AMPM. I have assumed she did this when standing at her car after dropping it on West Brown.

4:28 am - Adrienne is walking away from the car on West Brown and heading toward 5 (where she will head west)

4:28 am George takes a left on 5th from Farmer.

4:29-4:30 am - George sees Adrienne walking west down 5th street toward her apartment as he approaches from behind heading due west as well.



The three most popular routes to get N from baseline are Priest, Hardy, and South College meeting Apache/Mill.

All theory and to help give timeline that ties in AnnovedWin and Adrienne IN CASE there is a connection.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Originally Posted by mamacita
Saturday, June 15th:

3:00am &#8211; Last seen by roommates when she left to go to boyfriend&#8217;s home. (1) Her apartment is on Ash Avenue (6)
3:44am &#8211; Police received a 911 call that Adrienne&#8217;s car had hit a median at Ash & Rio Salado Parkway. Passerby saw car driving erratically behind her, so she moved over and let the car pass. (4) Adrienne&#8217;s car was then driven less than a mile to Brown and Roosevelt. Police say that from there, she walked a &#188; mile back to her apartment where she changed clothes, leaving behind her wallet and keys. (9) Witness says &#8220;they&#8221; in her 911 call. Operator asked how many people she thought was in the car and the witness said she thought there were two, she thought she saw one in the passenger seat. (10).
4:10-4:17am &#8211; Adrienne&#8217;s cell phone called the boyfriend 11 times, but he didn&#8217;t answer. (4)
4:23am &#8211; Adrienne called the cab company requesting to be picked up at AMPM. Nearest driver was about 20 minutes away. Cab driver&#8217;s name is Tom.
4:30am &#8211; Person driving to work found naked woman&#8217;s body in the street. Not sure if this is related. Near McClintock and Baseline. (2) &#8211; this woman has since been identified and her boyfriend has been arrested for murder. Still unknown if related to Adrienne&#8217;s disappearance, but I&#8217;m keeping this on the timeline just in case, because of the timing.
4:43 or 4:47am &#8211; Text sent from Adrienne&#8217;s phone to boyfriend&#8217;s phone said she was going to his house. (1 & 4)
5:00am &#8211; Last seen near Brown & Roosevelt streets. (3) Another reports states last seen at this location at 4:30am (7) -- not sure who she was last seen BY, or if this goes off pings, but this is also the same location her car was found.
5:04am &#8211; Cab driver (Tom) called Adrienne to make sure she was headed to the gas station. (11)
5:05am - Cab driver (Tom) called Adrienne to make sure she was headed to the gas station (again). (11) Previous reports indicated: Police said Adrienne called a cab company, but the cabbie couldn&#8217;t find her at a Tempe convenience store. (4) &#8220;Salinas asked for a driver to meet her at the AMPM gas station at the intersection of Hardy & University. Investigators told CBS 5 she never made it there&#8221; (5). LE saw surveillance of cab driver at AMPM but there was no sign of Adrienne there. LE subsequently questioned the cab driver and searched his home. AMPM is less than &#188; mile from Adrienne&#8217;s apartment. (9)
5:06am &#8211; Adrienne called the cab driver (Tom) saying she&#8217;d be there in a minute.
5:07am &#8211; Cab driver (Tom) called Adrienne again, looking for her, but the phone went to voicemail. (11) Her phone was turned off (1) or died (8).

Sunday, June 16th:

2:00pm &#8211; AS&#8217;s father found her car two blocks away from her apartment. (8)
Her Father called LE that afternoon. (8)

Other known info:

After leaving her disabled car, she walked less than a &#188; mile to her home and changed clothes and left again, leaving her wallet and keys behind. (9)
LE has questioned the cab driver and searched his home. Say he&#8217;s not a suspect at this time. (9) LE also took a DNA sample from cab driver (11).
LE did a sweep of Tempe Town Lake and found nothing. (9)
LE says that BF has been cleared and has fully cooperated. (10)
Cab procedures: "In a place like this, they would get out, look around, make sure the person wasn't in the store," Simon said. He said his son did just that but never saw Salinas. (11)
News footage of BF: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...an-reward.html
News footage of roommate: http://www.kpho.com/story/22676371/t...d-a-half-later

1: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...nclick_check=1
2: http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/22...n-tempe-street
3: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...#ixzz2WWHosmWu
4: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...nues-abrk.html
5: http://www.kpho.com/story/22627002/m...medium=twitter
6: https://photos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...08049287_n.jpg
7: http://www.tempe.gov/index.aspx?page=31&recordid=1579
8: http://www.azcentral.com/community/t...an-reward.html
9: http://www.kpho.com/story/22687012/m...er-safe-return
10: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...ing-Tempe-girl
11: http://kpho.membercenter.worldnow.co...een-speaks-out

Once again bringing this over, thanks to the original poster.
jmo

There are so many issues w this timeline bc info on it was from the original incorrect info put out on missing persons posters (that's right! The posters said wrong at first which drove the family, LE, and us crazy)

 

[WideOpen]

I am going to ask a couple more questions here today.

1.)Do we know what time Adrienne first left the party with the BF?
2.)Do we know what time the BF dropped Adrienne back home? (its reported she got out and walked)
3.)Do we know if the party with 40 people was actually at Adrienne's apartment or was it just in the complex? or another location? I havent seen this reported.

I am going to guess IMO that LE suspects someone close to Adrienne-Not a random abduction. Otherwise, the family and LE would be appealing to the public for more help. There is no plea from the family to bring Adrienne home safely. Why isn't the family all over the media getting her picture out there and pleading for her, reassuring her they love her and will bring her home? It is very quiet.

jmo

 

[WideOpen]

There are so many issues w this timeline bc info on it was from the original incorrect info put out on missing persons posters (that's right! The posters said wrong at first which drove the family, LE, and us crazy)

Well, I do see the one mistake of Adrienne's apartment being on Ash. This timeline looks to be taken from MSM and LE quotes. There are links to the msm articles for us to double check and read for ourselves and I find this very helpful. There are video links to watch and dissect. I have been checking and double checking, times, locations, maps looking for any discrepancies to note.

I still wonder who or what saw her at 4:30 or 5:00 am according to the reports. I do wonder if the massage parlor building has cameras, are there other businesses in that locale that may have camera's?

jmo

 

[cluciano63]

Is there any one local reporter who has been covering this case from the start? In other cases, we have had a lot of success in contacting the reporters directly with questions. Several have even joined Ws and posted about the cases.

 

[GGE]

guys I"m only on page 18 and won't post until I get done reading so would you all stop posting please? just kidding.

If there's no google map by the time I get from page 18 to the end of the thread, I'll try to make one up.

I'll withold my theory until I get to the end since things are changing so quickly with every page I read. And not in a good way, just in a confusing way.

 

[SandSage]

guys I"m only on page 18 and won't post until I get done reading so would you all stop posting please? just kidding.

If there's no google map by the time I get from page 18 to the end of the thread, I'll try to make one up.

I'll withold my theory until I get to the end since things are changing so quickly with every page I read. And not in a good way, just in a confusing way.

You made me LOL!

 

[MissDemeanor]

3.)Do we know if the party with 40 people was actually at Adrienne's apartment or was it just in the complex? or another location? I havent seen this reported.

This is such a good question. We really do not have an absolute on this one. We have all been presuming the party was at Adrienne's apt but we don't really know. I recall one media report I read mentioned that Adrienne and her boyfriend had attended a party earlier that evening.

If anyone can clear this up I would appreciate it.

 

[MissDemeanor]

There is no plea from the family to bring Adrienne home safely. Why isn't the family all over the media getting her picture out there and pleading for her, reassuring her they love her and will bring her home? It is very quiet.

jmo

This is what you would normally see in a case like this isn't it? This is a very good point.

But what does it indicate?