You're presuming rational thinking where there may have been none. She locked her car, too. It's remarkable what we can do just on habit. She may have taken her purse with her ID simply because it was a hardwired, subconscious action.
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Well, she had a phone, and she didn't make any callouts for help. Not to the police, not to a tow service or anything. They checked. Why not?
For the Euros, she spent time in an alternative youth school in southern France, and may have traveled to Europe on other occasions as well.
AZ - AZ - Chelsea Grimm, 32, traveling from San Diego CA to CT, car found Oct 5 on Forest Rd 6 near Williams, she was last seen in Williams, 28 Sep 2023
To note: two flat tires on the right side. I had assumed the two front tires were flat but that is wrong. she seems to have taken the herp with her.... how easy is it to "hike" carrying a bearded dragon? not a good sign that she has stopped communicating with her parents.
Or she didn't want anyone else using/stealing them.
Locked.
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Perhaps. It's the camera being left behind that bothers me. I think most photographers would never leave the camera, not if they were thinking straight.
That's so true. It's the inconsistencies, you know? She locks the car. She takes the wallet/cards. She leaves the camera. I think it's another example of her not thinking clearly.
Was it reported there was in fact cell service, for her cellular carrier, where her vehicle was found abandon?
People think of psychosis as being like an on/off switch, you either have it or you don't. It's so much more nuanced than that. I have a good friend with schizophrenia, who was diagnosed I think at age eleven? Most of their life. And they know when they're slipping into it. They see things they know aren't there, hear things, have patterns of thought they know can't be right, and they have that window to seek treatment or a med change and regain their balance. But it's also possible to have moments of clarity and moments of delusion, alternating between the two. So you can be crying and (possibly) talking to dead soldiers, or doing something else strange enough to get the cops called, but by the time the cop arrives, you've leveled out a bit and all that's left are the tears.That's so true. It's the inconsistencies, you know? She locks the car. She takes the wallet/cards. She leaves the camera. I think it's another example of her not thinking clearly.
I don't think it's completely unexplainable. IMO, The freeway on and offramps are horribly designed in the Phoenix area, it's an engineering failure. I lived there for almost 20 years and could easily see how someone (especially unfamiliar with the area) could get on the offramp instead of the onramp on several of their freeways. They've finally installed more wrong way signs and cameras that detect wrong way drivers, but I've witnessed people get on the offramps with my own eyes, twice! I know you didn't want to derail, but I don't think it's a huge mystery why there are so many wrong way drivers in PHX. That and all the drunk drivers - holy cow!
I've lived here for 27 years and I live IN the city and drive lots and have never ever mistaken an on or off ramp. This is a new phenomenon here. I don't contend it is a mystery, but I do contend we need to figure it out. Yes, many of the accidents have involved drivers who are drunk or impaired, but there is more to it IMO. ETA: Then again, I grew up and learned to drive in Detroit - The Motor City - where we know how to drive lol!I don't think it's completely unexplainable. IMO, The freeway on and offramps are horribly designed in the Phoenix area, it's an engineering failure. I lived there for almost 20 years and could easily see how someone (especially unfamiliar with the area) could get on the offramp instead of the onramp on several of their freeways. They've finally installed more wrong way signs and cameras that detect wrong way drivers, but I've witnessed people get on the offramps with my own eyes, twice! I know you didn't want to derail, but I don't think it's a huge mystery why there are so many wrong way drivers in PHX. That and all the drunk drivers - holy cow!
The Euros still really baffled me. I remember my last question to the PI who was here on this thread for a day was "did she, possibly have another camera?" Unfortunately we never got an answer... But is she did, I could envision the possibility of being homeless in some other town. I'm trying to hold onto that thought right now....She might have a complete meltdown. She might see it as a sign the Universe wants her to walk. It's impossible to guess from so little. She took her pet, her cards, etc. so she wasn't in a state so bad she was running through the woods naked. But that doesn't mean she wasn't in such a way that she wasn't a danger to herself.
The comments here bother me, so much that I went back through the thread to find it.
AZ - AZ - Chelsea Grimm, 32, traveling from San Diego CA to CT, car found Oct 5 on Forest Rd 6 near Williams, she was last seen in Williams, 28 Sep 2023
not all people like airplanes, especially after Covid. I get it, as a photographer myself, a road trip gives one opportunity, to explore, connect with nature, see different architecture/landscapes, try different food. I actually drove from California to Texas alone all through Route 66 and...
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Her father says she seemed uneven the past few days. He said, "I would say yes, but I also think it's fair to say she didn't seem completely 'even'. She seemed pretty uneven that last day or two."
He didn't say, she was upset, she was depressed, she was emotional, she was excited... he said she was UNEVEN.
And as someone with, as I have said, a family member who seems determined to light their own life on fire every few months because they'd rather that than look after themselves, uneven suggests to me that she was scattered, erratic, and emotionally all over the shop.
The choice to drive crosscountry rather than fly was literally made the day of the flight. Who does that?
A couple of days later, she isn't going to the wedding at all, she's camping! Wandering around Arizona, meeting up with a friend then cancelling on them the next day, trying to use Euros instead of USD, taking photos of missing posters and veterans graves and crying in cemeteries.
All her devices and cards go dark, and Chelsea vanishes.
The pattern here is pretty clear to me. Clearer than in some of these cases I've read about.
I think her thinking was distorted before she was even due on the flight that never happened. Being away from familiar landmarks and people just amplified and intensified the problem. And because of that, she is gone.
I do hope they find her. Best case, for me, I think is if they find her living homeless in some nearby city, and are able to get her help. But I have the feeling that her misfiring brain told her that her path, her adventure, or the answer she was seeking was... out there. And so she took her bank and ID cards, her sleeping bag, and her pet lizard, and walked out into the wilderness.
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People are allowed to drive after smoking weed, could be one of the reason.
@Joe Friday ...Trying to understand what you mean by this???? I would think the two flat tires could easily bring on a mental breakdown quite easily...
This is why. I wanted to know if she had a second camera...I know a number of photographers who always carry two or more.
