AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #9

[what about this?]

Unless the FBI has very good evidence that Gabriel is alive.

Melissa

I am suspicious of how Tammi got in to do these "interviews".

My theory is that Eliz did start talking once she was arrested. I (JMO) think they know where Baby Gabriel is and have known for a few days. I (JMO) think they let Tammi in to do the "interviews" -- (COME ON -- they would never do that) -- to get more info, and may have told (well, probably did) Eliz how Tammi was throwing her under the bus. Eliz is cooperating and knew what the "interview" was all about.

I think there is a method to their madness, so to speak. (Hope so, and please -- live feed of the arrests!)

 

[NewMommy09]

A babysitter who watched Gabriel Johnson the night he and his mother arrived in San Antonio says Elizabeth Johnson seemed detached from her son. 18-year-old Analisa Urias says Johnson contacted her after seeing her babysitter ad on Craigslist and hired her to watch her son on the night of December 21st at the Homegate Studios and Suites on Laureate Drive.
“She was not affectionate towards Gabriel or anything, it did not seem like she really wanted him.” said Urias who says Johnson gave very few instructions to the babysitter before leaving. Urias says there was a sharp knife sitting in the room.
http://www.kens5.com/news/Baby-Gabriels-sitter-speaks-out-81782547.html

I thought it was determined to have been Dec. 23rd when she watched Gabe??? I remember the date cause that was my 30th Birthday.

 

[pghbrandi]

I realized my addiction when my keyboard had some issues with certain letters, only to find that there was 3 weeks' worth of popcorn stuck in the cracks. Then, when I got up to clean it, my arse stuck in the chair. That day, my friends, I knew I had a problem. lollllll :loser:

These stories of WS addictions are so funny. Today I sent a text and I put TIA! Then the other night I was talking about this case and I said "we think..." She laughed so hard!
I love it! I love ws!

 

[not_my_kids]

I thought it was determined to have been Dec. 23rd when she watched Gabe??? I remember the date cause that was my 30th Birthday.

It may be, I don't know if they are correct. I just wanted to put it up, for reference. It gives a decent basic recap of what the sitter said. (I hope, since I still haven't seen the interview.)

 

[Marigold]

Did she get moved from 4th Ave. Jail? I thought thats where she was anyways.

I believe that all inmates start it 4th Ave, it's where Central Intake is:

"The Central Intake Division, located in the 4th Avenue Jail, opened in May 1985. Central Intake, however, is a separate division from the jail itself with its own command structure. It currently employs a staff of approximately 77 detention officers."

http://mcso.org/index.php?a=GetSubModule&sm=Custody_Operations&mn=Our_Jails

 

[NewMommy09]

These stories of WS addictions are so funny. Today I sent a text and I put TIA! Then the other night I was talking about this case and I said "we think..." She laughed so hard!
I love it! I love ws!

I just almost choked. My fiance gives me crap all the time for saying things like "We" or "at WS, we" or "We think", or particularly when I'm yelling at NG saying "We knew this 3 days ago" or similar. LMAO.

 

[*Hayley*]

Have you all seen this?

http://www.kpho.com/video/22243067/index.html

Also EJ has a twin brother?

http://www.kpho.com/video/22243067/index.html

 

[Pondering Mind]

What if you have multiple personalities and one conspires against another? lol

J/K lol:angel:

dang gibby, we knew as soon as you thought we weren't around, you'd be talking about us again!..sheesh..

 

[sc2714]

I just almost choked. My fiance gives me crap all the time for saying things like "We" or "at WS, we" or "We think", or particularly when I'm yelling at NG saying "We knew this 3 days ago" or similar. LMAO.

Glad I'm not alone!

 

[Patty G]

Your review, corrections, and additions to this info would be greatly appreciated!

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 through Thursday, December 24, 2009

Tammi claims that the Smiths and Logan were in contact from December 19 through this timeframe. It appears that contact may have ceased as early as December 19, but could have continued through December 23.

On December 22, Elizabeth checks into a hotel in San Antonio, paying for 5 nights (through the night of December 26).

The hotel clerk who checked her in states that she checked in under a different name and believes she had a Texas ID. The clerk doesn't see a baby. The clerk sees Elizabeth one more time when she asked for some towels.

On December 22 at 12:31pm, Jack posts on his FaceBook that they are experiencing a 'hiccup' with 'the new baby' Gabriel. Jack writes that Elizabeth picked up Gabriel the evening of December 18 for a visit with Logan, and hasn't been seen or heard from since.

During this timeframe, the Smiths find Elizabeth's MySpace, and leave a private message regarding Gabriel.

Elizabeth texts and phones with the Smiths. Elizabeth says that she plans to "keep running". Elizabeth says that, since she didn't want Logan to have Gabriel, and the Smiths couldn`t adopt him because Logan wouldn`t sign the papers, she would just keep running forever. The Smiths told Elizabeth that she would be found.

Elizabeth said she had one message for Logan. She told Tammi to tell Logan to sign the papers, and in 5 days, Elizabeth would bring Gabriel back and sign the papers herself. Elizabeth said that if Logan did not sign the papers, she would not bring Gabriel back.

On December 23, Tammi posts on her FaceBook that Elizabeth and Gabriel were on the road, that Elizabeth found "an underground help" in TX. She writes that the 'help' had given Elizabeth formula, diapers, etc, and all the legal 'formalities'.

Tammi says she posted this because she 'was somewhat threatened' by Logan. Tammi said she posted it also to let Logan knew that the Smiths didn`t want any further involvement with Elizabeth, Gabriel, or Logan.

On December 23, Elizabeth hires a babysitter to watch Gabriel at the hotel from 11:45am until 1:30pm. Elizabeth did not tell the babysitter where she was going.

On December 24, Logan files for an emergency custody hearing.

Since I am not a friend on this facebook, how do I know that the "facebook" information is factual?

Is this information in the media?

 

[NewMommy09]

It may be, I don't know if they are correct. I just wanted to put it up, for reference. It gives a decent basic recap of what the sitter said. (I hope, since I still haven't seen the interview.)

Sorry nmk,
I didn't mean to look like I was questioning YOU. Just want to make sure I have the dates straight.
ETA: as soon as you get a chance to see her interview, do it. I instantly had a feeling she was lying or answering scripted answers. She kept repeating the same things, using the same words always, like she was trying to drive a point home. And when asked a question outside of that realm of answers, she just sat there and couldn't answer, like she didn't know what to say cause she was never told. JMO, of course.

 

[A_Closer_Look]

A babysitter who watched Gabriel Johnson the night he and his mother arrived in San Antonio says Elizabeth Johnson seemed detached from her son. 18-year-old Analisa Urias says Johnson contacted her after seeing her babysitter ad on Craigslist and hired her to watch her son on the night of December 21st at the Homegate Studios and Suites on Laureate Drive.
“She was not affectionate towards Gabriel or anything, it did not seem like she really wanted him.” said Urias who says Johnson gave very few instructions to the babysitter before leaving. Urias says there was a sharp knife sitting in the room.
http://www.kens5.com/news/Baby-Gabriels-sitter-speaks-out-81782547.html

BBM
Did the babysitter cut something with the knife?
Did she feel the blade herself?
If neither of those, what makes her so sure that it was sharp?
If I saw a knife sitting on a counter in someones home, for instance, I would not assume that it was sharp. I would simply describe it based on me seeing it. It might be big or small, black or white, but I wouldn't know if it was sharp or not.

So I guess we have to take this as either the babysitter touched the knife, or is lying, right?

 

[Patty G]

It may be, I don't know if they are correct. I just wanted to put it up, for reference. It gives a decent basic recap of what the sitter said. (I hope, since I still haven't seen the interview.)

Here is the transcript to NG's show with the babysitter.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/14/ng.01.html

 

[A_Closer_Look]

I thought it was determined to have been Dec. 23rd when she watched Gabe??? I remember the date cause that was my 30th Birthday.

I've now read 3 different dates. Twice yesterday I read sources listing the 20th. Then somebody on here said it was the 23rd. Then while searching for my original sources of the 20th I found one that said the 21st and another that said the 23rd.

I would love to know the actual, factual date if anybody finds it.

 

[Marigold]

BBM
Did the babysitter cut something with the knife?
Did she feel the blade herself?
If neither of those, what makes her so sure that it was sharp?
If i saw a knife sitting on a counter in someones home, for instance, I would not assume that it was sharp. I would simply describe it based on me seeing it. It might be big or small, black or white, but I wouldn't know if it were sharp or not.

So I guess we have to take this as either the babysitter touched the knife, or is lying, right?

I said this last night, but as as single woman traveling alone, I would probably keep a big knife handy while in a strange motel in a strange town. However, I would make darn sure that it was where no child could reach it.

 

[lonetraveler]

I'm not on this thread all the time but check in several times a day and I'm sure this has been discussed before, if so, sorry. But, my question is: How did Elizabeth access her facebook account while traveling? She communicated with TS. Did she carry a laptop? Did she access a computer at the hotels? Internet cafes? Where?

 

[pghbrandi]

Has anyone else been adding tags?

I don't know how to add them.

 

[tehcloser]

Since I am not a friend on this facebook, how do I know that the :facebook" information is factual?

Is this information in the media?

I'll take a stab at it..lol. No the fb postings are prolly not in the media. But, we are allowed to paraphrase post from there right? So I think it can be included. Most of us have been following this and have seen it posted several times in these threads so there has been no doubting it right?

 

[PercyVeer]

Acc'ding to NG site and VH site, tonite's NG is audio tape of EJ and Info on the search of TayJay Ent. Wish I could find if Sheriff J is gonna pop in or not...He has a lot on his plate and ???

 

[A_Closer_Look]

GRACE: At 11:45 in the morning. And you believe this was the 20th, the 19th or 20th?

ANALISA: Yes, I do.

So, from the babysitters mouth, 19th or 20th.