AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #14

[Evotion]

It is not unheard of, if PCSO is involved in a search, to bring in outside help depending on the terrain.

There is a group here (Arizona Rangers I believe) that quite often helps in local searches, most of these volunteers bring their own trucks, horses and trailers to the search site. They work closely with law enforcement as it just isn't feasible for TPD and PCSO to have a full time mounted search units, and because some of the outlying areas of town are still untouched desert, horseback is still the quickest and most unobtrusive way to search most of these areas.

This is personal knowledge, other than the exact name I'm afraid.

 

[bwilson]

what is the age difference of parents?

6 years - Sergio DOB is 12/1970 and Becky is 10/1976

 

[Anita Richman]

Yes, I get it. A cousin once came to visit us from PA and wanted to know where all the cowboys were hiding

My sibling visited recently and on the last day of the trip expressed disappointment that they didn't get to see any "tumbleweed". :desert:

 

[PAXIMUS]

Search now includes Mexico

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-search-expands-mexico-16237775

Hmm I wonder why that would be...

 

[PAXIMUS]

Search now includes Mexico

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-search-expands-mexico-16237775

Hmm I wonder why that would be...


So lets get this right, they basically get the kids away from Sergio which one could read between the lines and assume some sort of low level protective issue going on there.

They admit it is an abduction.

They are now looking at Mexico.

Never been good at math but I can add two plus two.

 

[Brippilaine]

Hello all I'm kinda new here I've been reading here for a very long time and just now deciding to post I was wondering if given all the circumstances now being said that isa was abducted and the dad getting the no contact order I wonder if one of the brothers of isa not knowingly give a stranger or someone at the ballfield or anywhere information on where they lived or information on there sister and the brothers being young didn't think that it was wrong to give out information to this person and that led to her abduction and after police talking to brothers that confirmed that the brothers may have accidentally or unknowingly talked with a stranger about isa or there address or routine schedule and so on and when SO told parents the dad went crazy and flipped out on the brother or brothers and this leading to the no contact order! MOO sorry if its not understandable getting use to actually posting would love to know how you guys feel about this

 

[SmoothOperator]

These last few days we have as many.. if not more GUESTS here with us.. I'm certain some are even locals...please guys/gals ttake the 60 seconds it takes to register.. so you can post what is your view...opinions. or any knowledge you all may want to add to our discussions re: Isa.. new eyes and views are always welcome and appreciated.. so, jump in...you know some of you are dying to reply to some of our posts that you either highly agree with or more likely disagree with

 

[Anita Richman]

It is not unheard of, if PCSO is involved in a search, to bring in outside help depending on the terrain.

There is a group here (Arizona Rangers I believe) that quite often helps in local searches, most of these volunteers bring their own trucks, horses and trailers to the search site. They work closely with law enforcement as it just isn't feasible for TPD and PCSO to have a full time mounted search units, and because some of the outlying areas of town are still untouched desert, horseback is still the quickest and most unobtrusive way to search most of these areas.

This is personal knowledge, other than the exact name I'm afraid.

Welcome, Evotion!

 

[Theforeigner]

Search now includes Mexico

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-search-expands-mexico-16237775

That is OLD news!, from 04/29/2012

 

[Hilary]

This is probably in the way back machine, but I missed it (if so). Was JM living there at this time? He has quite a few Rocky Point pictures on his profile...I wonder if he was into stuff, way above his head. He alsO had pictures with Isa on there(1 at least). She slept alone and was little, easier target for retaliation.

Also, I know I read the dogs were barking that AM. Did the dogs typically bark, or was it "something is going on here peeps" kind of bark. How would RC not be alerted to that. She was on floor by 7 and dogs barked when, 630? How far is TMC from their house?

And, lastly...was RC historically early for shifts?

 

[SmoothOperator]

Brippilaine ..

....Evotion!

 

[PAXIMUS]

Yes, I get it. A cousin once came to visit us from PA and wanted to know where all the cowboys were hiding

LOL! Exactly my point, I get that alot fromo east coast relatives. That is why I tell them only a few select people actually drive cars out here.

 

[Anita Richman]

:moo:

Hello all I'm kinda new here I've been reading here for a very long time and just now deciding to post I was wondering if given all the circumstances now being said that isa was abducted and the dad getting the no contact order I wonder if one of the brothers of isa not knowingly give a stranger or someone at the ballfield or anywhere information on where they lived or information on there sister and the brothers being young didn't think that it was wrong to give out information to this person and that led to her abduction and after police talking to brothers that confirmed that the brothers may have accidentally or unknowingly talked with a stranger about isa or there address or routine schedule and so on and when SO told parents the dad went crazy and flipped out on the brother or brothers and this leading to the no contact order! MOO sorry if its not understandable getting use to actually posting would love to know how you guys feel about this

Welcome, Brippilaine! Glad you came out of lurkerdom to post with all us nuts.

Your theory is as good as any!

 

[FrayedKnot]

Just kidding around, it is a running joke that we live in the wild west and still ride horses out here.

Laughter.

Well, it can be worse. Mr. Knot is from Houston. Not eggzachary the wild west.

But as a Florida girl, I assumed when we first met, that he lived amongst the mesquite and tumbleweeds. And I didn't grow up under a rock (but again, FloriDUH).

Imagine my surprise on my first visit to lush, subtropical Houston, with more doctors than cowboys.

So, do all you Arizonites eat cactus and ride scorpions? (blue font)


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[oceanblueeyes]

I wonder if the events of that night momemtarily scared the drama right out of SC ? JMO

I think he felt he had to remain calm to make sure for one... that his kids didnt panic anymore than they already were and to make sure the operator heard him and understood the info he was giving her.

Like I said I have had to call 911 several times during life and death situations and I knew I had to remain calm to make sure the operator got all the information they needed.

Once I hung up was when I got the shakes but I tried to hide that too if other family members were present.

IMO

 

[Anita Richman]

This is probably in the way back machine, but I missed it (if so). Was JM living there at this time? He has quite a few Rocky Point pictures on his profile...I wonder if he was into stuff, way above his head. He alsO had pictures with Isa on there(1 at least). She slept alone and was little, easier target for retaliation.

Also, I know I read the dogs were barking that AM. Did the dogs typically bark, or was it "something is going on here peeps" kind of bark. How would RC not be alerted to that. She was on floor by 7 and dogs barked when, 630? How far is TMC from their house?

And, lastly...was RC historically early for shifts?

Welcome, Hilary! It is believed that JM was NOT living there at the time of the abduction; the only people there that night were RC/SC and the two boys. Yes, it's been reported that the dogs barked if they were outside and someone walked by or up to the door. No word on if they were incessant barkers. I believe RC LEFT at 7, however from the Celis home to TMC is only maybe 7 minutes at tops. No word on historical arrive times for RC, however she is widely adored and admired by hospital staff and it's been said she's a great worker.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Hmm I wonder why that would be...

Because when Sergio went down to sing to the Mexican orphans after walking on water, the bad mean kidnappers were trying to frame him and so hid Isa there to make it look like Sergio the Pure was responsible. You can tell how sincere he is because of the emotions.

Blue. Font.


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[CarrieBean]

This is from 4/29/12 I believe.

Yep, that's what it says.

And out of all of the articles stating Isabel was abducted, not one had a quote from LE saying so. Just that she did not leave on her own. Is the media twisting words again?

 

[marazul]

Also during the 911 call (one of them) you can hear Becky say to Sergio

"she's my daughter, she's not gonna leave!"

Was Sergio suggesting that she left on her own???

It is my understanding that Becky arrived at the same time as LE and was speaking with them as she came in.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Well, it can be worse. Mr. Knot is from Houston. Not eggzachary the wild west.

But as a Florida girl, I assumed when we first met, that he lived amongst the mesquite and tumbleweeds. And I didn't grow up under a rock (but again, FloriDUH).

Imagine my surprise on my first visit to lush, subtropical Houston, with more doctors than cowboys.

So, do all you Arizonites eat cactus and ride scorpions? (blue font)

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Former neighbors who live in Tucson have told us about puff-ball spiders. It was enough to make me skeered to visit there