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I was wondering since SC can not be in contact with his children, can he be with other children? (baseball?)
I thought CPS was Child Protective Services? Pretty sure it involved a child. JMO
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I was wondering since SC can not be in contact with his children, can he be with other children? (baseball?)
:banghead:However, I am shaken by this latest update. CPS there at the Celis' home in December of 2011?
"CPS visited Isabel's home in December, city police confirm"
Read more: http://azstarnet.com/news/local/cri...9a3-5df6-a4f1-163f280fad8f.html#ixzz1v77u80KL
Does this even make sense?
Surely, if CPS visited a family home in December, that recently, and then a six year old goes missing within FOUR (4) months, would CPS not take the boys out of the home? STAT?
I don't get it. Something is whacky here.
I am almost afraid to post on this thread because it has been so hostile.
However, I will give it a shot.
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I find the news that CPS has had previously involvement very disturbing. There has been something going on in the house for quite some time. That means it was either a mandatory reporter that notified CPS or a "nosy" neighbor.
Now the speculation will begin. Did the investigation have to do with abuse if so what sort of abuse.
People have been very defensive of their personal theories but from what I have read all the theories have been reasonable. There has been no talk of alien abductions so I don't see a problem. I hate to watch all of us argue and time out starts.
The main problem all of us have been having is the lack of investigative reporting. Most news is just regurgated. It is like a big game of telephone where little details get changed and then it turns into a big disaster.
The reason I like websleuths is we usually can discuss theories but for some reason this case is different....
All of this has been my personal speculation, opinion, and so on and so forth.
OK, so it is still speculation? Or is AZlawyer verified?
I don't mean to argue, just that speculation and rumors are being taken as a fact.
I am fine with speculation, conspiracy theories, etc. I just want it to be labeled as such so when someone pops in and reads just the last page they don't take speculation as fact.
Is there an official no-contact order?
If nothing has been filed officially and it's just a voluntary agreement that Sergio moves away from the kids it seems to me that it would be valid for just as long as everybody still agrees to it.
I honestly think they are just using cps to keep the faily apart for the time being!
You may well be right, Donjeta.It is JMO that he is using that term in the sense that it is used as a positive discipline technique in parenting. IMO to set boundaries has to do with understanding and respecting personal space. He does not seem to be refereing to school and/or baseball. But, it's JMO
You are correct regarding there not being an order, since SC voluntarily agreed to "No contact" with the boys. IMO, AZLawyer did a terrific job explaining what a "Voluntary" - CPS agreement involves.Here is a link to the discussion, starting at post #23 and continued on the next page:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172284
jmo
YIKES! So Octomom could leave her 3 year old octuplets alone because their ages add to 24? NO FREAKIN' WAY!?!? Maybe if TWO of them added up to 20 it would make more sense.
Whose unconfirmed sources? Does this mean rumor on threads? Is there a post I might view where this comes from?
TIA!
In NV i think 10 years to stay alone for a short amount of time and 12 to babysit the others. I think 10 to stay in the car while running. I will have to read the laws again. When i had 3 in diapers and have to run to the local store I new all those laws, i would have nieces watch them.
Ssshhh....don't let Octomom hear you say that!
I overlooked the child/vulnerable abuse charge. Why are they all dismissed? Does he have some kind of pull in the court system?
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OK, so it is still speculation? Or is AZlawyer verified?
I don't mean to argue, just that speculation and rumors are being taken as a fact.
I am fine with speculation, conspiracy theories, etc. I just want it to be labeled as such so when someone pops in and reads just the last page they don't take speculation as fact.
Wow. In MD, you can't leave a child in a running car unless she/he is a licensed driver. So, minimum of 16.
My point was that I was not sure why his previous records were brought up again, since he has nothing prior that relates to violence, or anything considered very serious.
I still have a hard time believing Sergio is an abuser. He is 41 years old and there is nothing in his criminal background showing he is violent.
IMO
BBM
The transcript says the brother said, "Hey, I need you guys to come down. My sister's gone uh, someone broke in and grabbed her." That doesn't sound to me like he saw what happened.
http://cms3.tucsonaz.gov/files/poli..._911_audio_ref_isabel_celis_investigation.pdf
Even though it was in 1993, Sergio Possession, manufacture, delivery and advertisement of drug paraphernalia. he pled guilty, seems that he was possibly growing pot, which would account for the manufacture, he was also selling it, and even possibly selling pipes etc. JMHO from what the filing states.