AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #17

[Knox]

Here you go:

emeraldeyes85
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 73

Morning sleuthers!

Did anyone read the comment section of this Huffpo article where someone comments that Isabel's passport is missing, the implication of the comment being that she was taken to Mexico.

Of course those are not always reliable I did find that interesting.

Article here, comments after article on page 2 near the end.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1526158.html

Can someone be more specific, there are over a hundred comments now. Can we even discuss them or is that against TOS?

 

[Eileen730]

From the 911 call, we know Becky drives a Lexus. Do we know what Sergio drives? When I was looking at the court records yesterday, I saw that the traffic cases have vehicle descriptions.

Is he allowed to drive?
I thought maybe they took his license away.

He has a few traffic violations!

 

[mamamia54]

Can someone be more specific, there are over a hundred comments now. Can we even discuss them or is that against TOS?

I higly doubt we can even discuss any of them.

 

[Eileen730]

IN all honesty i think RC SC and possibly oldest son knows exactly what happend in that house that night-morning!

jmo

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

How did a reporter find out about this "note?" Who leaked this information to this reporter? AFAIK, they don't let reporters inside when they're doing a search of the home, so some family member had to mention it.
Maybe this note will turn out to be nothing at all. I wouldn't put it past a reporter to make something like this up, after listening to the parents talking about writing with crayons on the wall, which most kids have done at some point. I did it myself, and my mother found it so amusing that she made me scrub it off with soap and water, which took a long time. I think my dad finally had to paint over it.

It seems I'm the only kid who never even thought to write on the walls. (I called my mom and asked her today.) I kinda feel like I missed out. :maddening:

 

[mamamia54]

Pieper4 - You mentioned a dinner at your parents home last night, where you said that two retired LE were present, and both said that they thought that a cartel could be responsible for Isa being missing. Could you elaborate on exactly why these LE felt that way? I see you are here now and wanted to catch you before you left. TIA

 

[carole]

Can someone be more specific, there are over a hundred comments now. Can we even discuss them or is that against TOS?

Someone made the comment that Isabel's passport is missing. We don't even know if she had one. Just a random comment - someone thinking she was taken into Mexico.

IMO there is nothing to be gained from assuming that a comment on a website has anything to do with anything. Anyone can post anything in the comments section.

 

[Eileen730]

It seems I'm the only kid who never even thought to write on the walls. (I called my mom and asked her today.) I kinda feel like I missed out. :maddening:

I never did and neither did my children.
One son is an artist!


Maybe she didnt have paper
LOL Heck it could be one little itty bitty pic on her closet wall and we have her locked in and drawing horrible pics but what if she was?

 

[LaLaw2000]

First of all, I want to say that I respect every opinion here and the right to have one. I also do not attempt to sway anyone else's opinion.

I have been trying to catch up and it is hard because my Mother just got out of the hospital.

Anyway, about this F&F deal. No way do I believe that Sergio would stay at his elderly parents home and place them in great danger from any cartel. I just don't buy it. Would LE and FBI even let that happen if they thought he was affiliated with the cartel or was even a witness for the Feds? Now, I would not put it past JM being involved with a cartel because of his flashing expensive boats, vacations, and extensive traveling. JM and his buds seem more the type for the drug action.

This is just IMO, but I just have a rotten, very bad feeling that little Isa was being molested by her Dad. He could have given her too much of a sedative or whatever and her little body could not tolerate it. What did Isa write either in her closet or on the inside of her closet door? I so badly want to know. I feel Isa may have been sleeping in her brothers room so as to not be alone in her room and maybe to get away from an unwanted visitor coming to her room.

I believe with everything in me that Sergio knows (and is responsible for) Isa's disappearance. I am unsure of Rebecca and what she knows. She may be 100% innocent and not know anything, but her words in the hotel interview struck me as knowing something. I believe the window and the screen was a coverup.

This has got to be the strangest family I have ever read about! Who to believe? I did not know these people from Adam when little Isa went missing, so why should I believe anything they say? My first and foremost worry is for this 6 year old child who seems is nowhere to be found. Either parent may have spirited Isa away if there was going to be a breakup in the marriage, and a custody issue coming up. (although LE has stated they did not think it was a custody issue)

I will try to keep an open mind, but the above is what I think now. The December CPS involvement as well as Sergio being banned now from his two sons bothers me a great deal.

Little Isabel, where are you?

MOO's, etc.

 

[WhatsupAZ]

Just watched the 12 news at noon in phx... 30 second blurb about Celis's focused on cps and sc's "ban" then a TEN MINUTE segment about the history of the slurpee from 7-11. Wth are these parents not out in media's face trying to keep this current??? Help US find your child!

 

[Prof]

So then how is it that the family would be unaware of these voices? And please oh please don't tell me because the walls were so well built as to keep out noise lol. I can understand if the dogs were barking it would be difficult to hear voices, but apparently the neighbor could hear both. The voices could have been bouncing off that high wall, from inside the home. How did at least mom who would have been getting ready for work, not check on why the dogs would be barking?

I considered this source. If she is a key witness, LE most likely asked her not to talk to the media, but she did anyway without hesitation that first week. Of course she had to add her opinion about drug cartels, too...hmmn biased much?

What also bothers me about her statement is my question a perp who calmly talks right next to two dogs going nuts at 6:30 am on a Saturday morning, while a dog in a house nearby (hers) is also barking? Whether it was two perps or two trash collectors or two people in their own yard, how could they stand there and chat with dogs going nuts? and if they were doing something secretly, how could they continue when dogs were making a racket in two nearby yards/houses? Even if the dogs bark all of the time, why take the chance of doing something bad when the alarm is going off? don't most perps run at this point?. Lastly, how could she hear the men speaking over the dogs going nuts?
It's just been difficult to understand this statement IMO

 

[Eileen730]

Someone made the comment that Isabel's passport is missing. We don't even know if she had one. Just a random comment - someone thinking she was taken into Mexico.

IMO there is nothing to be gained from assuming that a comment on a website has anything to do with anything. Anyone can post anything in the comments section.

Well if the family ever traveled to Mexico she would have to have one.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

I understand that but even that is pointless now, you'd hope in Arizona that dumpsters have been emptied.

I am not sure why police didn't put it out there immediately - even parents saying 2 different thing ..."she was wearing pink shorts and either a blue or green tanktop"

Have no idea why they wouldn't release clothing descriptions or even "maybe" clothing descriptions if they were not happy with what they were told.

:banghead: ack

Sometimes clothes are found with remains and can help to ID them. IMO.

 

[Eileen730]

First of all, I want to say that I respect every opinion here and the right to have one. I also do not attempt to sway anyone else's opinion.

I have been trying to catch up and it is hard because my Mother just got out of the hospital.

Anyway, about this F&F deal. No way do I believe that Sergio would stay at his elderly parents home and place them in great danger from any cartel. I just don't buy it. Would LE and FBI even let that happen if they thought he was affiliated with the cartel or was even a witness for the Feds? Now, I would not put it past JM being involved with a cartel because of his flashing expensive boats, vacations, and extensive traveling. JM and his buds seem more the type for the drug action.

This is just IMO, but I just have a rotten, very bad feeling that little Isa was being molested by her Dad. He could have given her too much of a sedative or whatever and her little body could not tolerate it. What did Isa write either in her closet or on the inside of her closet door? I so badly want to know. I feel Isa may have been sleeping in her brothers room so as to not be alone in her room and maybe to get away from an unwanted visitor coming to her room.

I believe with everything in me that Sergio knows (and is responsible for) Isa's disappearance. I am unsure of Rebecca and what she knows. She may be 100% innocent and not know anything, but her words in the hotel interview struck me as knowing something. I believe the window and the screen was a coverup.

This has got to be the strangest family I have ever read about! Who to believe? I did not know these people from Adam when little Isa went missing, so why should I believe anything they say? My first and foremost worry is for this 6 year old child who seems is nowhere to be found. Either parent may have spirited Isa away if there was going to be a breakup in the marriage, and a custody issue coming up. (although LE has stated they did not think it was a custody issue)

I will try to keep an open mind, but the above is what I think now. The December CPS involvement as well as Sergio being banned now from his two sons bothers me a great deal.

Little Isabel, where are you?

MOO's, etc.

Hope your Mom is doing well and will say a prayer for her!

I agree with everything you just said but i believe Rebecca and SC knows exactly what happend.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Welcome back, and I hope your mother's doing well!

 

[AnaTeresa]

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Someone made the comment that Isabel's passport is missing. We don't even know if she had one. Just a random comment - someone thinking she was taken into Mexico.

IMO there is nothing to be gained from assuming that a comment on a website has anything to do with anything. Anyone can post anything in the comments section.

I agree. I think that there's too much emphasis being placed. I read HuffPo - the majority of the comments are trolls.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Or...perhaps LE is letting things out a little at a time to indicate that they do have evidence pointing to a specific scenario, but not yet enough to arrest and charge. I don't think LE is tunnel-visioned here, I think they did and are doing everything they should, in the case of a missing child. But we can't know what other things have come to light, until they tell us.

I am not crazy about how the little bits and pieces are coming out, but I trust LE until I have a good reason not to.

JMO

I am right there with you, cluciano!

 

[LaLaw2000]

Hope your Mom is doing well and will say a prayer for her!

I agree with everything you just said but i believe Rebecca and SC knows exactly what happend.

TY, Eileen!

Oh, I do too! I thought my post conveyed that.

MOO

 

[LaLaw2000]

Welcome back, and I hope your mother's doing well!

O/T

Thanks, PlainJaneDoe! She is doing great at 89!! I appreciate your comment.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

In this interview, he states that he is a surgical assistant.
"Sergio:The office I work at every day, have their full support. Tremendous gratitude for the time they are giving me. But I know I have to go back to work. I am a surgical assistant. There are a lot of surgeries. And I cannot say enough about the Arizona Opera Company."
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/150175035.html

It occurs to me that we know more about RC'a job partly because the hospital has been strongly supporting her. I don't recall this happening with SC job.

OK...I'm gonna say this is O/T....

But, after he made the comment about the "opera"....well, it was actually the "surgical assistant"....he really likes to fluff his own feathers....I'm sorry, but, combined with the "Ave Maria" production in the church, IMO, he's a "legend" in his own mind.

So, I wanted to get some info on the Arizona Opera and shows, etc. So there's this Tuscon Theater Announcement site....I started reading some of the posts, etc....the SECOND one down is just so bizarre to me, at this point in time, with Isa missing and the "cartel" theory.

Maybe Serg brought his "work" home with him....LOL


http://tucsonstage.blogspot.com/2011_12_01_archive.html

There's a "trailer"....couldn't tell if he's in there...


THIS IS NOT IN ANY WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE CELIS FAMILY OR ANY OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED!!!!!!!