AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 3

[taagean]

What is her address?

5602 E 12th street

 

[Pensfan]

BBM

Oh gosh...YES!

What we have in our computers could make a veteran man in uniform faint!
:floorlaugh:

If anyone in our family disappears, our computers have to "get stolen'. Image a prosecutor telling a jury about everything we have researched! :gasp: I will deny making this post if questioned by LE. :innocent:

 

[taagean]

If anyone in our family disappears, our computers have to "get stolen'. Image a prosecutor telling a jury about everything we have researched! :gasp: I will deny making this post if questioned by LE. :innocent:

OMG, Cindy Anthony's deleted files are nothing compared to mine!!!

 

[Pensfan]

That is very weird...who has windows 2' from the ground? That seems very low to me...

BBM
People in the desert who don't get buckets of snow and massive flooding?

In the last awful blizzard that my family experienced, there was 87 inches of snow in 3 days. We considered climbing out a second story window to get out, but our very nice neighbor shoveled our porch so we could open the door. We couldn't see out of the first floor windows until the April thaw. You have got to live in Buffalo to believe the snow stories.

 

[mrsu]

Here's a link to her house on google. You can definitely see there is a garage and those are garage windows unless it's been converted to living space since 2008.

http://g.co/maps/ma52x

Also, I took a walk and noticed the trash can in the back alleyway. I wonder if that is where the trash is currently stored? Would have been easy for someone to use the trash can as a step to get over the fence.

 

[PAXIMUS]

Hi Everyone,
I also am local to Tucson, and something just dawned on me. Unlike many other cities, Tucson takes light pollution very seriously, meaning that unless it is a major roadway or private parking lot, there aren't a whole lot of street lights. In fact, most residential subdivisions don't have street lights. Making it VERY dark, and it would be that much easier for the perp. I am originally from the midwest and it is notably different than the areas I lived there.

I am familiar with the shopping areas around Isa's home, but not the specific residential areas around there.

Just a thought. It would be interesting to see how lit up the area is once night falls.

Excellent point about the light pollution, in fact our Governor just signed a law preventing businesses from putting up billboards with neon or flashing lights, this of course is because Arizona is known as the star gazing capital of the world, with our clear skies and the darkness created by no excess night lights around the city you can see the stars here at night like few places in the world.

 

[cluciano63]

OT, but NM is much the same, re: no lights in the suburbs...my street is so intensely dark...if I have to get the mail after dark I have to take a flashlight to find the mailbox...it is kind of ridiculous...

 

[Soulmagent]

Here's a link to her house on google. You can definitely see there is a garage and those are garage windows unless it's been converted to living space since 2008.

http://g.co/maps/ma52x

Also, I took a walk and noticed the trash can in the back alleyway. I wonder if that is where the trash is currently stored? Would have been easy for someone to use the trash can as a step to get over the fence.

you should screen shot the trash can because ,we can compare it to NG footage of the current trash can.Soon as I find it. It was shown on 4/23 in the alley.

 

[pieper4]

In many areas in town trash is picked up from the alley. The containers all look the same, unless for an apartment or a dumpster. Here is a pic: http://cms3.tucsonaz.gov/es/customer-services-residential-trash

 

[taagean]

Here's a link to her house on google. You can definitely see there is a garage and those are garage windows unless it's been converted to living space since 2008.

http://g.co/maps/ma52x

Also, I took a walk and noticed the trash can in the back alleyway. I wonder if that is where the trash is currently stored? Would have been easy for someone to use the trash can as a step to get over the fence.

Just for info only, I noticed the image date is Jan 2008 (bottom left corner of picture) so the containers may be different now.

ETA: After looking at the post by Pieper, the garbage can looks the same.

 

[Kat]

I've never heard the term "refreshed" used in reference to a search warrant.

What do you think that means? (I know stupid question, just want to make sure I understand)

 

[PAXIMUS]

Lets get a feel for the area she went missing from. This happened at 12th street and Craycroft. Now if you go SOUTH on Craycroft from her area, about 17 streets down or 1/2 mile you get to 29th street and Craycroft, this would be considered one of the worse areas in town, it is not as bad as some major cities, I wouldnt be afraid to walk around there at night but there are crack houses all over that area, a lot of drugs and prostitution and probably some light gang activity, they all mostly keep to that area though smoking their crack etc. Then a little further south from 29th maybe another 1/2 mile you get to the MAIN ENTRANCE of Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, so that whole area from her house south is also populated by soldiers. There are many bars, some strip clubs and a lot of varying business. Now if you go just EAST of her house maybe 1/4 of a mile you have the big shopping Mall, Park Place Mall. Then WEST of her house is big business plaza called the Williams Center and a University of Phoenix Campus. Going NORTH down Craycroft you get in to a neighborhood that is largely made up of Jewish folks, several Jewish Temples in the area, mostly residential for several miles until you get to the next main street after Broadway which would be Speedway and north from there about 15 Miles would take you to a dead end of the Catalina Mountian Range. Huge mountains with a ski lodge, lake and camping about a 20 minute drive from the city straight up the mountain.


I will post more later...

 

[Dr. Know?]

I heard yesterday Waste Mgmt. picked up the trash on Saturday via presser?. They are in city limits. Trash pickup on Friday, bulk & brush the week of 4/16. The city would pickup Friday per the schedule. trash & recycle. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

 

[PAXIMUS]

I've never heard the term "refreshed" used in reference to a search warrant.

What do you think that means? (I know stupid question, just want to make sure I understand)

Search Warrants are very specific in what they can look at and who can look at it. In this case the Search Warrant was specifically for the Tucson Police Department to search the house but today the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit got involved so TPD had to go back to the Judge who issued it and have the BAU added on to the warrant so they could go in and look, this is called refreshing the warrant, adding what can be looked at and who can look at it.

 

[spoiledmom]

I remember the Hoskinsin case, also Zosha Pickett and Cathy Fritz...hoping this doesnt go that direction...

Could some sort of accident have happened with one of her brothers and for some crazy reason they are trying to cover it up? I know sounds crazy, they don't come off as crazy but...

I also wondered this.

 

[Soulmagent]

I've never heard the term "refreshed" used in reference to a search warrant.

What do you think that means? (I know stupid question, just want to make sure I understand)

They are going to seize the fabreeze?

 

[pieper4]

I heard yesterday Waste Mgmt. picked up the trash on Saturday via presser?. They are in city limits. Trash pickup on Friday, bulk & brush the week of 4/16. The city would pickup Friday per the schedule. trash & recycle. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

I am not 100% sure (I live in the county)... but I believe WM only services businesses in the City. City of Tucson services residences within City limits.

 

[PAXIMUS]

Yes City of Tucson picks residential trash within the city limits.


The newspaper here said the parents are cooperating with the police but someone on a local discussion forum said the father is not cooperating, anyone hear anything about that.

 

[ingra1327]

Isabel's teammates hold vigil after game.

Isabel's father Sergio gave a friend of his and fellow coach a message to pass along, that they appreciate the support and are sorry they couldn't be there.

"He also did mention that they were allowed to go to the house today to pick up a few things. It was still too hard for them. It still feels like it's the 1st day it's happening, so Sergio, Becky if you're listening, our prayers are with you and we hope that we find Isabel soon," said Joe Vega, a friend of the family's.

Video at link

http://www.kvoa.com/news/isabel-celis-teammates-hold-vigil-after-game/#!prettyPhoto/0/

 

[Dr. Know?]

I am not 100% sure (I live in the county)... but I believe WM only services businesses in the City. City of Tucson services residences within City limits.

That's what I thought. The reporter might have made a mistake due to his service? I did read something about WM taking over COT's trash or recycle.