Deceased/Not Found AZ - Jhessye Shockley, 5, Glendale, 11 Oct 2011 - #3 *J. Hunter guilty*

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Looking for commercial collection times. But keep in mind, the apartment complex also has dumpsters which are the same size as the commercial bins in the area. I'm not going to discount the possibility at this point.

Looking at the residential collection map, I think trash pick-up for 45th Avenue would be Monday.

http://www.glendaleaz.com/sanitation/residentialsanitationservices.cfm
http://www.glendaleaz.com/sanitation/commercialsanitationservices.cfm
http://www.glendaleaz.com/sanitation/

Also Monday, October 10th was a holiday. No trash was picked up that day.

Wow! So is that why Jerice reported Jhessye missing on Tuesday? Waited until the dumpsters had been emptied? Yikes guys!!!

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belimom said:
There's also a bus stop directly in front of Walgreens, that also has a stop at the Phoenix Mountains Preserve, on a route headed to the airport. It wouldn't be unusual to see someone with a suitcase on a bus headed towards the airport.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=214907810624034999279.0004a8dd004c06577f794&msa=0

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If JH disposed of sweet Jhessye's body the same morning, she would have to return home to drop off the suitcase, which was found inside the home. I doubt she took it into Walgreens with her but, you're right...she may have diverted suspicion if anyone saw her in the wee hours of the morning since a bus station is nearby.

Maybe the suitcase was JH's undoing. Even if JH had been thorough enough to erase all DNA evidence from the closet, LE has probably gotten DNA samples from the suitcase, which would be all the more incriminating.
 
Thanks knox, missed your link upthread. LE tarped off an area of the landfill that would be the garbage picked up in the neighborhood early on. There have been no reports that I know of saying they are conducting searches at the landfill (but that means nothing as we all know). We do know that the area of interest in the landfill was tarped and cordoned off early on in the first week or two of this case.

really interesting column/blog on the subject of what went wrong and why nothing was done when back in April, Mahongany Hightower (family member) called CPS worried the children were being abused.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LaurieRoberts/149251
 
Indy Anna said:
If JH disposed of sweet Jhessye's body the same morning, she would have to return home to drop off the suitcase, which was found inside the home. I doubt she took it into Walgreens with her but, you're right...she may have diverted suspicion if anyone saw her in the wee hours of the morning since a bus station is nearby.

Maybe the suitcase was JH's undoing. Even if JH had been thorough enough to erase all DNA evidence from the closet, LE has probably gotten DNA samples from the suitcase, which would be all the more incriminating.
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I thought LE found *a suitcase* at the home, but I don't think it was ever confirmed that it was known to have been used to dispose of little Jhessye. Was that clarified?

I think she did use a suitcase and I think she disposed of the suitcase as well. JMO
 
Indy Anna said:
If JH disposed of sweet Jhessye's body the same morning, she would have to return home to drop off the suitcase, which was found inside the home. I doubt she took it into Walgreens with her but, you're right...she may have diverted suspicion if anyone saw her in the wee hours of the morning since a bus station is nearby.

Maybe the suitcase was JH's undoing. Even if JH had been thorough enough to erase all DNA evidence from the closet, LE has probably gotten DNA samples from the suitcase, which would be all the more incriminating.
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As to the suitcase LE showed interest in: I thought that LE had left it behind in their search and did not remove it from the home as evidence? I am wondering if LE has had some sort of report from a neighbor, etc about someone seeing Jerice with a suitcase on a particular day. Perhaps that is why LE was showing interest in the suitcase on the day the search was going on.

Also, I am not discounting the possibility that Jerice owned or had posession of more than one suitcase. So just because LE may not have removed the one we saw them with during the search, does not mean one was not used in Jhessye's disposal. I do think this was the means of disposal.
 
jinx beli :)
 
I'm agreeing with others here. The mom most likely threw poor little Jhessye away in a local dumpster, which is why LE is planning on searching the dump. :(

She probably had to wait until late at night when there were fewer people around. She most likely used a dumpster in one of the restaurants on the route to Walgreens that had some sort of closed period. Meaning not one that is open all night. She may have used a stroller. She probably watched the trash to see when it was clear to report her daughter missing. While she waited for the trash to be picked-up, she cleaned her closet and contents.

FWIW, bleach disguises blood traces when viewed with infared light. :( LE also indicated she used 'incense.' So the cleaning with bleach MAY not have gotten rid of the odor at first. That is another reason she may have waited to report Jhessye missing. Once the smell was clear, to her, she decided it was time to begin the pesty business so she could erase Jhessye from her life.

This is definitely one of our more horrific cases. But then, aren't all child abuse cases horrific?

JMHO
fran

PS>...there's a LOT of preplanning that needs to be handled for the landfill search. Personnel conducting the search also need to take special precautions because they can get deathly ill from handling all of that trash and garbage. LE wants to make the search as timely as possible, to insure their personnel spend the LEAST amount of time exposed to the germs and disease that can lurk within the landfill contents. Grids and such for exact location to be looked at.


PPS....THANKS to all for providing maps and such of the area close to the apartment. Very helpful in regard to this case. Especially since the alleged abuser didn't have a vehicle...fran
 
Knox said:
Oct 9, 2011 6:29 AM (sunrise)
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=827&month=10&year=2011&obj=sun&afl=-11&day=1

I posted this upstream.

It's looking to me like Jerice pulled an all nighter.

Maybe the kids stayed the night with a friend Saturday night, or maybe she waited until they were all asleep. I'm sure LE has this nailed down by now.

I need to look back, but I'm pretty sure LE made the statement about the Landfill within the first week of Jhessye's disappearance? Why aren't they searching already?

Jerice could not have cleaned every trace of Jhessye from that closet.
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BBM

Here is an article that mentions the landfill search, but I remember seeing a picture somewhere of the cordoned-off area.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...ale-girl-jhessye-shockley-court-document.html

Police on Tuesday said they are far from finished investigating Jhessye's disappearance. Police expect to search the city's landfill in coming weeks.
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Detectives also visited a landfill in Glendale. Sources tell ABC15 the visit was made to survey the area and determine what it would take to conduct a search at that landfill.

Coombs confirmed the visit to ABC15's Christopher Sign and would not say if an actual search of the landfill was planned

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...or-5-year-old-jahessye-shockley#ixzz1epv8478b

according to this article posted October 12, 2011, LE was already on top of the landfill as early as the day after Jhessye was reported missing. SOP I am sure.

In the days after Jhessye’s disappearance, more than 100 officers and volunteers searched for her in pools, garbage bins and shrubs. They interviewed and searched the homes of registered sex offenders in the area, and stopped at every door to spread news about the missing girl.

Police also cordoned off an area of a local landfill where garbage from Jhessye’s neighborhood would have been taken the day of and day after her disappearance, but have not searched it.

http://newsone.com/nation/crime/ass...kleys-mother-arrested-on-child-abuse-charges/
 
Police also cordoned off an area of a local landfill where garbage from Jhessye’s neighborhood would have been taken the day of and day after her disappearance, but have not searched it.

http://newsone.com/nation/crime/asso...abuse-charges/

Wow. That shows them thinking ahead. The hardest part is trying to find exactly where to search. But they were smart enough to separate it beforehand. It is still going to suck to have to poke through this krap, but at least they have it narrowed down to the correct garbage.
 
I know Landfill searches are expensive and the actual act of going through the waste can be hazardous to searcher's health if not done properly. Landfill's/Waste Disposal is my industry and we have done several excavations throughout the years.

God help them if she really is in that Landfill and they have waited until now to search. It does not take a month and a half to secure funding and manpower, not even in Arizona!
 
tlcox said:
As to the suitcase LE showed interest in: I thought that LE had left it behind in their search and did not remove it from the home as evidence? I am wondering if LE has had some sort of report from a neighbor, etc about someone seeing Jerice with a suitcase on a particular day. Perhaps that is why LE was showing interest in the suitcase on the day the search was going on.

Also, I am not discounting the possibility that Jerice owned or had posession of more than one suitcase. So just because LE may not have removed the one we saw them with during the search, does not mean one was not used in Jhessye's disposal. I do think this was the means of disposal.
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http://ktar.com/6/1472146/Glendale-police-to-hold-briefing-on-Jhessye-Shockley-investigation

A suitcase was seen being removed from the home around 10 a.m. reported 92.3 KTAR's Jim Cross.
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I also remember seeing a video of LE with a large suitcase in front of the house. I am just speculating about the suitcase being her undoing b/c LE hasn't released any forensic details, if they've even gotten results back from the lab yet.
 
tlcox said:
Detectives also visited a landfill in Glendale. Sources tell ABC15 the visit was made to survey the area and determine what it would take to conduct a search at that landfill.

Coombs confirmed the visit to ABC15's Christopher Sign and would not say if an actual search of the landfill was planned

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...or-5-year-old-jahessye-shockley#ixzz1epv8478b

according to this article posted October 12, 2011, LE was already on top of the landfill as early as the day after Jhessye was reported missing. SOP I am sure.

In the days after Jhessye’s disappearance, more than 100 officers and volunteers searched for her in pools, garbage bins and shrubs. They interviewed and searched the homes of registered sex offenders in the area, and stopped at every door to spread news about the missing girl.

Police also cordoned off an area of a local landfill where garbage from Jhessye’s neighborhood would have been taken the day of and day after her disappearance, but have not searched it.

http://newsone.com/nation/crime/ass...kleys-mother-arrested-on-child-abuse-charges/
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SOP the day after she disappeared? In other AZ missing children's cases, I don't recall this being standard. Hmmnn, wonder if that is true?

The Landfill is also owned by the City, just sayin.

http://www.glendaleaz.com/PublicWorks/landfill/index.cfm
 
SOP I am betting for an instance such as this, where mama reports a kid missing and LE discovers mama was never supposed to have the kids in the first place and served hard time for the torture of some of those same children.

Probably not for a standard missing child case, that does seem fast. But we have to keep in mind, LE knew almost immediately that Jerice and Shirley had pulled afast one. I think LE knew almost from that point on that they were not dealing with a standard wander off/abduction.
 
Indy Anna said:
http://ktar.com/6/1472146/Glendale-police-to-hold-briefing-on-Jhessye-Shockley-investigation

I also remember seeing a video of LE with a large suitcase in front of the house. I am just speculating about the suitcase being her undoing b/c LE hasn't released any forensic details, if they've even gotten results back from the lab yet.
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The suitcase we saw being removed from the apartment shows us LE is looking for evidence to show how Jhessye was taken out of that apartment. I can't see Jerice keeping whatever she was transported in, but then again ...

I hope they took any plastic bags Jerice had in that apartment for comparison. Speaking of that, if the kids were raking leaves in the backyard that day I wonder if they put them into plastic bags?
 
Bless you for what you do for these babies AmandaReckonwith. You are tireless and so appreciated.
 
Wow...I live in a very similar area (in Minnesota, not Arizona). Lots of fast food restaurants, Walgreens, Kmart, grocery store, bars and a bus station all within a mile or so from my apartment. I also live near a main street for the city bus. It isn't unusual AT ALL to see people wheeling luggage around. Not common, but it wouldn't stand out, either. The bus has a departure that heads out at 7 am or something, so someone walking around with a suitcase at 6 am probably wouldn't raise any eyebrows.

It IS weird that she went to Walgreens to get the bleach instead of the grocery store, but all of us have weird shopping patterns. I go to Kmart to buy Tide instead of the grocery store, even though the grocery store is next to the laundromat. It's just my habit. It doesn't have to make sense. :)
 
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