GUILTY AZ - Sylar Newton, 2, Rimrock, 25 July 2010 - #2

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Thanks wondering! If (god forbid) he is in those contents, they will find him.


:praying: for sylar.
 
It's been so long now for Sylar to be able to survive out in the wilderness if he had wandered off, but miracles do happen. Are they still searching?

WHERE IS SYLAR?
 
mysticrose said:
Ok so this is the first I heard of this tidbit " Sylar Newton was sleeping in a tent with a friend of his mother, her mother and daughter when he disappeared between midnight and 1:45 a.m. last Sunday"

Anybody else know that a friend of the mother as well was there ? The boyfriend I assume.....

Link:

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...for-clues-into-2-year-old-boy's-disappearance
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I believe they're referring to the custodial/adoptive mother, CP, as being a "friend of his (bio) mother". :)
 
mysticrose said:
Ok so this is the first I heard of this tidbit " Sylar Newton was sleeping in a tent with a friend of his mother, her mother and daughter when he disappeared between midnight and 1:45 a.m. last Sunday"

Anybody else know that a friend of the mother as well was there ? The boyfriend I assume.....

Link:

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...for-clues-into-2-year-old-boy's-disappearance
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No, that's the first I heard of that too. I thought it was cleared up by LE that it was TP, her daughter and her mother...and her son and his friend were in the other tent. :waitasec:
 
who are we allowed to sleuth at this point? Anyone?

eta: Sorry for the dumb question. New to this thread and relatively new to WS. So sorry if this has been said and/or I should know the answer already :)
 
Somebody needs to write that reporter and ask for a clarification. Is this new news or is this a misstatement. :)
 
wondering1 said:
who are we allowed to sleuth at this point? Anyone?

eta: Sorry for the dumb question. New to this thread and relatively new to WS. So sorry if this has been said and/or I should know the answer already :)
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Usually it's a rule of thumb that we have to wait until a POI or suspect is named by LE in MSM and then we can sleuth.

That is determined in a case by case sometimes depending on the mods watching over a subforum or thread. If they deem it appropriate to go ahead and investigate then we can.

On this thread we have already had a look at the rap sheets of the adults that Sylar was last known to be with physically and those posts are located within Sylar's threads.

Whenever I am in doubt about posting a piece of info, I contact a mod and then wait for them to answer me, giving me a yea or nay.

Mods here are volunteers so it can take a bit of time if they aren't online, or as I have had it happen in the past couple of weeks the mod wishes to contact an admin to get clearance for something to be posted.

HTH.
 
Kat said:
Usually it's a rule of thumb that we have to wait until a POI or suspect is named by LE in MSM and then we can sleuth.

That is determined in a case by case sometimes depending on the mods watching over a subforum or thread. If they deem it appropriate to go ahead and investigate then we can.

On this thread we have already had a look at the rap sheets of the adults that Sylar was last known to be with physically and those posts are located within Sylar's threads.

Whenever I am in doubt about posting a piece of info, I contact a mod and then wait for them to answer me, giving me a yea or nay.

Mods here are volunteers so it can take a bit of time if they aren't online, or as I have had it happen in the past couple of weeks the mod wishes to contact an admin to get clearance for something to be posted.

HTH.
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Having looked at them also, its rather discouraging. Hope they find this innocent little boy and allow a good family to adopt him. There are so many good couples who can't have children and are looking to adopt. Sylar deserves a good family who can love and take care of him.
 
Betty P said:
Having looked at them also, its rather discouraging. Hope they find this innocent little boy and allow a good family to adopt him. There are so many good couples who can't have children and are looking to adopt. Sylar deserves a good family who can love and take care of him.
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If Sylar is still alive, I hope his father has a say as to where he lives. MOO
 
panthera said:
I believe they're referring to the custodial/adoptive mother, CP, as being a "friend of his (bio) mother". :)
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They are, if you go back and look at the articles... they have been calling her "the custodial mother, who was a friend of Sylar's biological mother" or "the woman hoping to adopt Sylar was a friend of the biological mother".

They just got lazy and simply called her a friend. He was with a friend of his biological mothers (the friend being CP, who was trying to adopt him) along with that woman's mother (CP's mother) and CP's daughter.

Note they only say "a friend of his mother" they don't mention Sylar's mother being there in that article? Only the friend ("custodial mother"), her mother, her daughter.

Then CP's son and his friend were in another tent.

This is also later in the same article:

"Officials say Sylar's mother lives out of state and the woman he was with, Christina Priem, says she is in the process of adopting the boy."
 
panthera said:
If Sylar is still alive, I hope his father has a say as to where he lives. MOO
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You know, after reading so many of these stories it almost makes me want to sign up to be a foster parent. My kids are grown and I'm not as spry or energetic as I used to be, but it seems there really is a need. I've known people who have done it and it can be extremely difficult caring for children who have been psychologically damaged from such an early age. :banghead:
 
Betty P said:
You know, after reading so many of these stories it almost makes me want to sign up to be a foster parent. My kids are grown and I'm not as spry or energetic as I used to be, but it seems there really is a need. I've known people who have done it and it can be extremely difficult caring for children who have been psychologically damaged from such an early age. :banghead:
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It would have to be motivated by a true labor of love as Arizona (I don't know about the other States) has cut back drastically on the funding of Foster Care.
I read a few months ago, that the clothes bills which use to be reimbursed or so much for the everyday care and maintenance of the foster care children has been drastically cut.

Today, it is far less then it was probably a year or two ago....

At least this is what I read. Money of course is always plentiful in this country for other more deemed important and relevant things the politicians want, but not for children or at least not much for Foster Care.
Apparently this is a State problem and Arizona is deeply cutting their budget in the red now.

The article went on to say that many are now taking money out of their own pockets which use to be given to them for the care of the children.

Here are the figures from 2008, so I don't recall what in addition to this they use to pay that today they do not pay, as I only recall reading how drastically cut the receipients were complaining in the article of the Az, "Tribune" newspaper :

This Payment spred sheet appears that Arizona is one of the Higher Paid in the entire country:
:waitasec:


http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/socwork/nrcfcpp/downloads/foster-care-maintenance-payments.pdf
 
I'm in the middle of housebreaking a puppy (see my avatar) so I don't have time to sit and read all of those documents and then look for the statutes, but I will try :)
 
I interpreted that article also to mean CP is the friend of the mother. Note how it says:

Sylar Newton was sleeping in a tent with a friend of his mother, her mother and daughter.

At least that's what I am thinking....so old news.

IMO
 
Kat said:
I'm in the middle of housebreaking a puppy (see my avatar) so I don't have time to sit and read all of those documents and then look for the statutes, but I will try :)
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Take care of that adorable little one first, Kat :blowkiss: ~ the rest of us can go through the links! :online:
 
Okay here is what concerns me.

We can't trust what TP is saying because she already has a conviction of filing a false police report (IIRC).

In an interview she talked a bit about how that came to be, and her description sounds "off". We'd have to know what the court records said.

Then LE has stated that when Sylar first went missing she identified herself as his Mother.

Later on, she identified herself as his custodial mother and in the process of adopting him.

Sylar's adoptive Aunt stated "his biomom doesn't have anything to do with him she signed the papers over and everything" (note: that's heresay, unless she watched biomom sign papers).

So, we just can't trust what she is relating to be the truth.

We can find explanations for why she may have said what she said, but given that she was convicted of filing a false police report....IMHO we just can't trust anything she says. :(
 
https://www.azdes.gov/appforms.aspx?category=153&menu=102


It seems to me, (again, I'm waiting for everyone here to read because I can't read in depth, I'm up and down from the 'puter :))

That the first process in adopting a child, if not a foster parent of the child, would be to get guardianship of the child.

http://www.elder-law.com/frequently-asked-questions/guardianship-for-minors/

But, in reading about how a bioparent can surrender custodial rights of that child to a guardian I saw this:

(from link above)

Can a non-relative be appointed as guardian?
Yes, but there are special requirements when a non-relative serves as guardian for a child. The guardian must submit to fingerprinting and a criminal background check before appointment; since this process typically takes several months it is necessary that non-relatives apply for guardianship early.
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and:

When is it necessary to appoint a guardian for a child?
Most school districts require out-of-district tuition for children whose parent or guardian does not live in the district. In order to avoid tuition charges it may be necessary to have a district resident appointed as guardian–the guardian then has responsibility for the care and control of the child. It may also be necessary, or at least desirable, to have a guardian appointed in order to get the child qualified for medical insurance through the guardian’s work. If parents are unavailable it may be necessary to secure a guardian’s appointment to give consent (or withhold consent) for medical treatment.
What is involved in getting guardianship over a minor?
The guardianship process is started by filing a petition with the Superior Court, paying a filing fee and setting a hearing before the judge. Before the hearing date parents need to either sign a consent form or be served; unknown or missing parents can be served by publication in a newspaper. The minor must also sign a consent if he or she is over age 14. At the hearing, the judge will determine whether the procedural requirements have been met, the appointment of a guardian is appropriate, and the proposed guardian is the best available choice. Most guardianship proceedings involving minors are uncontested and are resolved at the first hearing.
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Okay, TP says she was "in the process of adopting Sylar" but LE has stated and continues to state 6 days out from him going missing that they can find no paperwork to support this claim.

Also, even though as we have discussed it isn't needed to have the paperwork to get dr. appt's for a child, if that child required any care above and beyond standard pediatric care (shots, meds for infection, etc) then TP couldn't have gotten medical care for Sylar unless she lied on the forms.

Also, Sylar wouldn't have been covered by her medical insurance. What was her plan? Even children aged 2 yrs and 4 months should have well baby checkups and such?

I'm still concerned about the care Sylar was getting prior to his disappearance. Yes, it can all be innocently explained away, but it stinks to high heavens. I hope we get more info so I can put this out of my mind. JMHO.
 
Kat said:
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Okay, TP says she was "in the process of adopting Sylar" but LE has stated and continues to state 6 days out from him going missing that they can find no paperwork to support this claim.

Also, even though as we have discussed it isn't needed to have the paperwork to get dr. appt's for a child, if that child required any care above and beyond standard pediatric care (shots, meds for infection, etc) then TP couldn't have gotten medical care for Sylar unless she lied on the forms.

Also, Sylar wouldn't have been covered by her medical insurance. What was her plan? Even children aged 2 yrs and 4 months should have well baby checkups and such?

I'm still concerned about the care Sylar was getting prior to his disappearance. Yes, it can all be innocently explained away, but it stinks to high heavens. I hope we get more info so I can put this out of my mind. JMHO.
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I also am still trying to figure out what kind of "adoption" this is. There doesn't seem to be any legal paper-trail, and as to her being able to get medical care for him, what kind of health plan could he be on if he isn't legally with her? Could he still have medicaid? Also, if not legally with her, how could she receive any kind of financial aid for taking care of him? In other words I'm not seeing any advantage for her to have Sylar without going through the legal channels. And with that, how can someone with a record legally adopt? :waitasec: MOO
 
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