Baby Lisa's brothers to be questioned and DNA tested

[BritsKate]

KC LE are releasing to the media that the children will be questioned, by who and how?

I dont think I have ever seen anything like this.

It's my understanding that the Cyndy Short released this information and not law enforcement.

Kansas City police are planning to re-interview the brothers of missing baby Lisa Irwin and take a DNA sample from them, the family's lawyer said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/2...others-missing-baby-lisa-irwin/#ixzz1buETZvIC

 

[~n/t~]

Why do they need DNA testing done on the boys? Is it to rule out potential contamination of evidence gathered at the scene?

 

[believe09]

TY-here is the article I was referencing and a snip:
http://www.kmbc.com/news/29590466/detail.html#ixzz1bu2n0abk

(CNN) -- The half-brothers of a missing Missouri girl, who were in the family's home the night the 11-month-old disappeared, will be re-interviewed by authorities on Friday, Kansas City police said Wednesday.​

Lisa Irwin's brothers, who reportedly are ages 8 and 5, will be interviewed by a "child services specialist trained to interview kids," Kansas City police Capt. Steve Young said. The interview will be non-confrontational, he said, and a police officer won't even be in the room. ​

"Not an interrogation," he said. "They are kids, after all." ​

The boys were interviewed just after Lisa disappeared, both for under an hour, Young said.​

 

[katshep]

He is the BIG missing piece for me as well. I wonder that he was there at the house later that night with some friends or people that DB loosely knew. When this thing gets solved, and I sure hope it does soon, I don't think it will involve a complete stranger per se, but more someone DB and JI will have known through the brother or the neighbor or a friend of a friend of a friend of a drug dealer, etc etc.

I agree. I think the police have found some unidentified DNA at the house and they want to question the parents separately about who was at the house that night. This whole business of DB sneak buying alcohol with her brother when she's on anti-anxiety meds combined with the across the street neighbor who has set up a system with DB to know when he can come over makes one suspect DB might be up to stuff that JI isn't supposed to know about.

 

[Just K]

In more cases than not and in some pretty obviously bad situations there is only a report taken and put in a file for future reference. I can't begin to count the times that teachers, nurses, doctors, LE, have reported suspected abuse or neglect and CPS comes out and leaves within the hour. You are preachin' to the choir if you think I believe that CPS, based on the little info we have, would remove the I/B kids from their parents. Having worked in the system as a direct provider, I am well aware of the steps taken before a child is placed outside of the natural family. It is sad how many kids remain in extremely bad situations. Some even resulting in death...so many cases that it is overwhelming.

SB, the father of DB says he'd like to have his son back and it seems he may now have quite a bit going for him, as far as getting custody and visitation.

 

[AnaTeresa]

What was the original MSN source that had the statement about DB not wanting to ask the boys questions about that night because she didn't want them to "go through anything else"? Was it before the 17th because that's when she announced her lawyer, on the 17th. I suppose Ashley Irwin could have consulted with her about not questioning her kids.

This article states it was from an NBC interview the previous week. I'll look back and see if I can find the NBC article, or if it was a video interview.

http://www.kmbc.com/news/29590466/detail.html#ixzz1bu8U1fY1

 

[matou]

This article states it was from an NBC interview the previous week. I'll look back and see if I can find the NBC article, or if it was a video interview.

http://www.kmbc.com/news/29590466/detail.html#ixzz1bu8U1fY1

I found it. It's in the I was drunk interview with NBC on the 17th. Same day they anounce Joe T is representing them. He may have told them not to talk to the kids.

Transcript and video: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44927...baby-lisas-mom-i-was-drunk-when-she-vanished/

 

[skyy]

There is no 'legal' bedtime that I am aware of.

I was going to post the same thing. That's ridiculous.

 

[cachmo]

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/25/3229412/legal-dance-with-police-is-part.html
from link above:
The parents also have refused to allow police to have specially trained social workers reinterview their older children from previous relationships, boys ages 6 and 8 who were at the home when Lisa disappeared.

As a general rule, police do not interview children who are witnesses. Instead, they refer them to a child protection center, where social workers talk to the children. Police are not allowed in the room.
MOO,JMO
This tells me police are doing the right things the right way.
Why the parents changed their tune about the questioning of the boys is unclear to me, however, Im glad its happening.
I have faith in all the LE in this case.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm almost afraid to ask, but is there any possibility that DNA testing might be done to prove paternity? Could LE be considering something like this in their investigation? There was speculation early in the case that JI might not be Lisa's father. :couch:

 

[AnaTeresa]

I'm almost afraid to ask, but is there any possibility that DNA testing might be done to prove paternity? Could LE be considering something like this in their investigation? There was speculation early in the case that JI might not be Lisa's father. :couch:

I think that's a valid idea - one that would open up a ton of avenues.

• JI could believe Lisa was not his, and have taken out revenge on DB or unnamed male father by harming her.
• DB could worry that JI suspects that Lisa isn't his and orchestrates this for him to feel badly.
• Unnamed male father realizes that Lisa is his and takes her.
• Unnamed male father realizes Lisa is his and DB does something to Lisa to either get back at unnamed male father or prevent him from accessing Lisa.
• Some other family member of either JI, DB, or unnanmed male father realizes that Lisa's father isn't JI and takes her/harms her for who only knows why.

These are all conjecture and should not be taken as fact in any way. But, given all the different motives/ways it could play out (and the family dynamics already), it's certainly worth exploring by LE, I think.

 

[TorisMom003]

I agree. I think the police have found some unidentified DNA at the house and they want to question the parents separately about who was at the house that night. This whole business of DB sneak buying alcohol with her brother when she's on anti-anxiety meds combined with the across the street neighbor who has set up a system with DB to know when he can come over makes one suspect DB might be up to stuff that JI isn't supposed to know about.

RBBM

Where is this coming from? I have not heard nor read anywhere that the neighbor across the street and DB had set up a system to know when he can come over. Is this fact that can be proven with a link or is this opinion?

 

[~n/t~]

I'm almost afraid to ask, but is there any possibility that DNA testing might be done to prove paternity? Could LE be considering something like this in their investigation? There was speculation early in the case that JI might not be Lisa's father. :couch:

They're not DNA'ing Lisa, they're DNA'ing the boys. Not sure what one has to do with the other. We know one child is not his but the other one is.

As far as Lisa, there has been nothing to say he is not the father. As a matter of fact, I think she looks a lot like her daddy.

 

[raeann]

I agree. I think the police have found some unidentified DNA at the house and they want to question the parents separately about who was at the house that night. This whole business of DB sneak buying alcohol with her brother when she's on anti-anxiety meds combined with the across the street neighbor who has set up a system with DB to know when he can come over makes one suspect DB might be up to stuff that JI isn't supposed to know about.

Is there a link that I have missed to document any kind of truth to the statement that she was "sneak buying alcohol" or to ANY kind of a system with a neighbor to know when "HE" could come over??????? The neighbor who came over was not a HE....as far as all reports here so far have made clear.

TIA for posting the links

 

[jus sayin]

There is an article from K C Star now which says that the brothers will be interviewed by Child Protective Services, on Friday and DNA swabs will be taken. My experience is that CPS has more power than LE. There are laws such as miranda and other laws which LE has to follow, which CPS does not have to follow. I would not allow my child to be questioned by CPS. They could have a neutral child psychologist chosen by the Irwin's attorneys, and LE, jointly. I am also wondering about the computers LE took on Oct. 19. Usually, PC's are a rich source of leads. I wonder why LE didn't take the PC's at the first, they got a search warrant, then took them on the 19th. Did DB and JI refuse to allow them to take the PC's before they got a warrant? Usually, LE simply asks, "do you mind if we take the PC?" And parents whose child has been taken would eagerly agree. An example is the Bobby Jo Stinnet case, north of Kansas City. (unborn baby taken). The PC's showed quickly, who she had been chatting to, and this case was solved and the baby returned to the father quickly.

 

[Zuckerschnecke]

I can see them interviewing the boys (and maybe should have demanded it sooner, as they supposedly were the only other ones home) but taking DNA samples. Somethings up with that. Could one of the brothers have harmed the baby??

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

They're not DNA'ing Lisa, they're DNA'ing the boys. Not sure what one has to do with the other. We know one child is not his but the other one is.

As far as Lisa, there has been nothing to say he is not the father. As a matter of fact, I think she looks a lot like her daddy.

I didn't suggest that LE was DNA'ing Lisa. At this juncture, I hope that LE has been given hair samples or something that has the baby's DNA for identification purposes in the event that she is found.

 

[~n/t~]

I can see them interviewing the boys (and maybe should have demanded it sooner, as they supposedly were the only other ones home) but taking DNA samples. Somethings up with that. Could one of the brothers have harmed the baby??

They were both interviewed for about an hour (according to a link posted earlier).

DNA? No clue why they have to submit DNA. I asked the question whether it was to eliminate potential contamination at the scene.

Example: "Cars" blanket. Rule out the boys and whatever DNA is left may be from a possible suspect.

IDK

 

[Geralyn]

I agree. I think the police have found some unidentified DNA at the house and they want to question the parents separately about who was at the house that night. This whole business of DB sneak buying alcohol with her brother when she's on anti-anxiety meds combined with the across the street neighbor who has set up a system with DB to know when he can come over makes one suspect DB might be up to stuff that JI isn't supposed to know about.

This system with the neighbor is new info to me. Can you direct me to the thread that discusses it please? Or the outside source? Thank you...these threads are moving rapidly!

 

[Jetaime]

I can see them interviewing the boys (and maybe should have demanded it sooner, as they supposedly were the only other ones home) but taking DNA samples. Somethings up with that. Could one of the brothers have harmed the baby??

"We are expecting to collect DNA samples," Snapp said. "It will be very non-intrusive, pretty much just a Q-tip swab." Snapp said some DNA samples, currently in a lab, that were collected from the house are labeled "unknown" and they want to use the boys' DNA to eliminate some of the unknown samples.'

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-infants-brothers-submit-dna/story?id=14817602