BIG HOLES in the defense theory

[Tuffy]

Usually after someone is molested by someone in the household they run away a lot and move out as soon as they can. Not her she stays and then brings her baby daughter into the house where she was molested. Come on.

Then goes to jail, and still wants to go back to them? :waitasec:

 

[Tuffy]

The crock that Baez created around George, the swimming pool and sex abuse was disgusting, but throwing Kronk into the mix was just plain stupid. After about the first 3 minutes, not much he said made any sense or held together. She going down big time . . . idiots.

Yes, anyone that had concern about the jury having any reasonable doubt should be relieved.

 

[Rapunzel]

KC doing THIS to her father makes me believe even more strongly that she was planning to off him and CA asap. And still will if she gets the chance.

:cow:

I always had the feeling that if she wouldn't have been caught and arrested, she could have been a serial killer...namely next her mom and dad....then she thought she could have had the house and lived her happy care free life without constraints...guess she didn't think about the fact that her mom and dad owed a ton on the house.

 

[Rapunzel]

As they just stated on NG the duct was put there prior to death, so you duct tape her then drown her and claim accident??

I believe the correct term is put on before decomposition not death. There is a difference. I think KC could have put it on after death to make it look like a kidnapping later, but believed she died due to the chloroform.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I agree with A_News_Junkie, but one thing I did not realize is the last part of your statement.

If 'neglect' is involved, then Casey would have faced felony charges, resulting in a life sentence/death penalty??? I don't know the law in FL, but in my state, which generally all states follow similar guidelines for criminal charges, so I assumed the charge, based upon neglect, would be a lesser charge. One of second degree manslaughter. I realize the degrees of penalty do differ from state to state, however, wouldn't Casey have benefited by telling the truth, in order to secure a lesser charge?

The law would have to prove neglect,..I assume, and most surely, a child left unattended near any pool, locking a child in a car trunk, or alone at home without supervision, equals neglect. My question is,...where was the above-ground pool ladder? Cindy stated that it was always locked in an upright position to avoid this type of tragedy. So, therefore, Casey pulled the ladder down? To swim, or to set her daughter up to drown? Was Casey high, or did she premeditate this whole thing, and not being the brightest bulb in the box,...miscalculate?

Further, I thought that Lee was the person, who Casey gave the heads-up as to the location of the baby's body? The reference to the homeowners in the area of the body disposal site? The reference to the cement blocks,...etc...

In my opinion, this whole trial is a joke. I realize they must try her, but using an unqualified murder attorney (Biaz), to represent you, is a mistrial/appeal, in the making. Pretty smart.

I am not sure if it would still be technically 1st degree murder upon more reflection. Maybe 2nd degree or manslaughter. We need AZ or one of our esteemed attorneys to clarify that for us.

AZ - Mr. Hornsby.....any of our attorneys around?

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

NeJame was commenting after the end today and said after the cross of GA, there is no way the DT can resuscitate this trial.

And defense attorney Jeff Brown said that Baez doesn't know how to cross-examine. Coming from Brown, who is usually rabid pro-defense, this was quite huge I thought.

 

[gmt]

I believe the correct term is put on before decomposition not death. There is a difference. I think KC could have put it on after death to make it look like a kidnapping later, but believed she died due to the chloroform.

Thank you for correcting me, but now you busted my bubble.

 

[tracy87]

maybe someone will know the answer:

way back in the beginning there was talk of a "flurry of phone calls". from casey to cindy, george, etc... and that no one answered her calls. then her phone went silent for a few hours. does this sound familiar to anyone?

how does this fit into this new story by the defense? if george was at home with casey, why was she calling him?


my heart sunk when i heard this new story by casey/jb. i think she is guilty, but am afraid this will somehow affect the jury.

 

[Rapunzel]

If the smell in her car was from trash and the trash was dried out and the smell went away, why didn't it go away in the car????

 

[Rapunzel]

Thank you for correcting me, but now you busted my bubble.

sorry gmt...

 

[gmt]

If it were an accident, and you want to go with JB, why would GA put the duct tape on her? Did GA come up with sawgrass apts, zanny, the letter. Come on JB you have a dream tream.

 

[celticthyme]

maybe someone will know the answer:
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how does this fit into this new story by the defense? if george was at home with casey, why was she calling him?

George was not home, he was at work, they both were. It is theorized by many, that close to that time period was when Caylee died.

 

[rhornsby]

I am not sure if it would still be technically 1st degree murder upon more reflection. Maybe 2nd degree or manslaughter. We need AZ or one of our esteemed attorneys to clarify that for us.

AZ - Mr. Hornsby.....any of our attorneys around?

Child neglect that results in death is Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child as charged in count three and is punishable by up to 30 years in prison.

 

[gmt]

I agree. JB during jury selection hammered home to each potential juror that the defense was not required to prove anything. That's why he thinks he can say whatever he wants without anything to back it up. No proof? Well, none is required, remember?? The DT may be looking ahead to Casey being convicted and then getting it overturned on appeal due to ineffective counsel.

They would then be barred for practicing law Im sure. I don't think any of the dream team would " plan" ineffective counsel. But I do think JB believes he can say anything without thinking first.

 

[Oakley]

Which defense theory? There were so many odds and ends. Talk about overkill. And Jose said the SA is 'desperate?!' That's rich.

 

[Rapunzel]

Child neglect that results in death is Aggravated Manslaughter of a Child as charged in count three and is punishable by up to 30 years in prison.

looks like you just brought this thread to a halt...LOL

 

[butwhatif?]

I think a big problem will be the fact that GA and CA's faces always light up when they talk about memories of Caylee....there is no doubting their absolute adoration of their grandchild.

But when/if ICA takes the stand we will see none of that. She's no good at faking emotion to begin with. She will cry , she will pout, but she will not light up the way the people the really loved Caylee do.
That is how the jury will know that the defense theory is a complete sham.

JMO

 

[Rapunzel]

I think a big problem will be the fact that GA and CA's faces always light up when they talk about memories of Caylee....there is no doubting their absolute adoration of their grandchild.

But when/if ICA takes the stand we will see none of that. She's no good at faking emotion to begin with. She will cry , she will pout, but she will not light up the way the people the really loved Caylee do.
That is how the jury will know that the defense theory is a complete sham.

JMO

They did love her, of that I am sure. Their love may not always be perfect, but I do beleive they loved her...problem is they love their daughter too.

 

[okiedokietoo]

Question: was GA asked if the drowning story was true and if the sexual abuse was true?

 

[Themis]

The big hole in the defense theory is the absence of the truth -- about anything! Nothing the defense presented stands up to further examination.