Bills,bills,bills

[trac]

JusticeorJustUs nailed it right on the head! It's NOT normal for a gparent to not know the babysitter. Especially when it's a younger, single mother who still lives at home with her parents. I was both a young single mother at one time and am now an 'older' (ack) married mother and my parents always knew who my daycare providers were. Partially in case my children became sick and I couldn't leave work or if there was an emergency. I can't imagine CA, who seems so controlling, wouldn't know every detail of this "nanny". I also find it neglectful of CA & GA to knowingly (and they knew something wonky was going on with their daughter & her 'job') allow this to continue. So, yes, I do hold them partially responsible for this (however, KC is an adult who made choices regardless of what her parents choices were so she bares the ultimate responsibility).

Oh, and as far as money goes, I just remembered...and really, I don't know how I could have forgotten about this...didn't KC say that Caylee's father had left her a trust account? Money problems solved. <sarcasm intended>

I never heard anything about a trust account o Casey saying that - is there a link to it? All I knew from this is that Casey said that the father died in a car crash and she had the obit (which she couldn't produce to LE like the rest of stuff she said she had)

I also agree it was very neglectful of the A's not to know this babysitter, never meet, talk to or see this person - and Caylee was their precious granddaughter

 

[rosepetal1065]

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I also agree it was very neglectful of the A's not to know this babysitter, never meet, talk to or see this person - and Caylee was their precious granddaughter

ITA
With Kc's track record, everything she did or said needed to be checked out. esp. when she was without Caylee for long periods of time. GA and CA knew full well what that chick was capable of doing, long before we knew anything about any of them. It's sad.

 

[Clock's Tickin]

My opinion-If KC had never crossed the line and stolen from the grandparents then Caylee might be alive today. If KC had just kept her thievry inside her immediate family then it would have been tolerated. However, as we all know,everything escalates-for some reason KC's risk taking was growing. I still don't know what she was thinking when she was writing checks from Amy's account. WTH-She knows about security cameras and then she even goes and signs her own name on one of them!! How was she going to explain that away? Did she think because her parents had put up with her BS for so many years everyone else in the world would too? Or maybe she figured CA had takencare of her other "mistruths" she can just take care of this too!:waitasec:

Yet another case of "out of sight, out of mind". She was in the process of moving on to a new set of friends and leaving Amy and "the boys" behind. This may be the same reason for KC and Annie falling out (IMO). It would not surprise me to find out Amy wasn't the only one in that house she took from. The incident w/ JP's keys is of concern. Where they ever found? What did they access?

 

[txmama]

There is a link to the whole 'trust fund' statement somewhere. It was one of those weird obvious lie type statements that CA/KC has said over the months. I'll try to poke around and find it today but I'm not going to invest a whole heck of a lot of time in digging up one of KC's lies. I'd rather spend that time with my children decorating Christmas cookies.

 

[Mrs.Peacock]

Most states will NOT give you assistance unless you release the name of the father of the child, which KC never did. So she couldn't get assistancer.

Most states won't give you assistance if you live at home with mommy and daddy either. The assumption is that if are apart of their household, you are more or less classified as a dependent of the parents, regardless of whether you work.

 

[trac]

Most states won't give you assistance if you live at home with mommy and daddy either. The assumption is that if are apart of their household, you are more or less classified as a dependent of the parents, regardless of whether you work.

Thats not entirely true - when I first got out of the military, moved back home - I had a toddler and I was pregnant, I had no job, no income - my daughter needed to be covered for health insurance and I needed to see a doctor - I got on medicaid no problem - I was living at home with my parents at that time

I also got food stamps or food for my daughter who was a toddler at the time to cover her needs - THO I got a job 3 months later and stopped all aid which I ended up never using anyways - it was the right thing to do

If Casey got aid, which she didn't according to the DCS paperwork, I doubt she would have stopped it - she never stopped anything free

 

[Mendara]

People I work with, people I meet and my family always ask when inconversation about my son, they always ask "who takes care of him while you work" - it is a natural question people always wonder how you work and parent.

I always give her name - then they ask "oh is it far from you?" and I say oh no just up the block.

It seems that Cindy Anthony was less than concerned or curious about this nanny than any stranger I have met.

No way would I have a nanny for 3 years and live with my mom and my mom not know her or seen or spoken to her or even picked up my child from her for me.

All of this nanny stuff is so strange to me. I always believe the Zeinada name came after Caylee went missing and that the A's lied when they said they heard the name often. But it seems she used the word Zanny many times or did she say NANNY and only after the fact did they lie and say they heard "ZAnny".???

 

[trac]

George said in the recorded FBI interview - Caylee never responded to the name Zani - he said they would ask her if she had a good day with Zani, what did you do, etc. and she would not acknowledge who Zani was, she would not light up - If they mentioned Lee was coming over Caylee would light up and say 'Mallory?' She knew Lee and Mallory and reacted to their names -

To me that pretty much sealed the deal that there was no nanny named Zani - probably no nanny at all - whatever money Cindy gave Casey to give to the nanny was used for something else - probably clothes or something

 

[not_my_kids]

Thats not entirely true - when I first got out of the military, moved back home - I had a toddler and I was pregnant, I had no job, no income - my daughter needed to be covered for health insurance and I needed to see a doctor - I got on medicaid no problem - I was living at home with my parents at that time

I also got food stamps or food for my daughter who was a toddler at the time to cover her needs - THO I got a job 3 months later and stopped all aid which I ended up never using anyways - it was the right thing to do

If Casey got aid, which she didn't according to the DCS paperwork, I doubt she would have stopped it - she never stopped anything free

She may not have stopped it willingly, if she was ever on it. I don't know about FL policy, but a lot of states make you provide proof of income. If she had faked those or not turned them in at all, they would have cut her off. And if they are giving you anything besides food stamps and Medicaid a lot of states have Ready-to-Work programs. You have to put as much effort into finding a job as you would if you had a job. We all know casey wasn't doing that. I wouldn't doubt that she applied at some oint, but the moment that she found out it wasn't really FREE, she would have let them cut her off.

 

[Dr. Pennypacker]

She could use her webcam and "dance" for the camera. I think they get paid by the "hits" or a subscription service - she could easily have done this for cash. Some very rarely show there face - they just jiggle their jigglies in front of the camera.

Some of those sites also have "wish lists" from the girls that people can send to them.

Nice.....


jigglies......he he he he I like that.:crazy:

 

[kellync]

I have said it before and I will say it again. I think KC was a prostitute. Maybe a check of Craigslist could find traces of her....IDK, but she seems like the type, and she always had money(except when she was stealing checks) The nightclub pictures, and just her general skipping out on her friends at weird times. Maybe a client was calling. You can never know when a customer would need your services. I just get that feeling about her. She thinks she is fabulous, obviously, and seemed to have money to pay babysitters, atty's, etc.....

 

[trac]

There is no proof regarding *advertiser censored*, prostitution, sex online etc. The only thing that LE has is that those escort services searches online - if there was more to it, there would be way more on the computer or phone regarding escorting or prostitution

The phone forensics would have so many unmatched numbers - the computer would show way more email activity - and if she was a prostitute, someone would have known or seen her - being an escort or prostitute there would be a definate phone/money trail - there is none


What LE does have is that she stole money from family and friends - we haven't seen back account records or credit card receipts - if there is a document dump with bank account records we'll see record withdrawels - THAT is where Casey got her money - as well as lifting cash from friends - remember there were a ton of parties - no one can say that Casey didn't lift cash from drunk friends

It's been said that she has cash to pay Baez - he said she hasn't paid him and he won't say who has

As for babysitters being paid - Cindy already said she paid for all of Caylees care - so my guess would be she gave cash to Casey to give to her sitter and we know there was no sitter so she pocketed the cash

If Casey was a prostitute or escort PLEASE someone show some facts on it - I 've never seen anything and I'd love to know too

 

[txmama]

I highly doubt that she was a 'regular' escort/prostitute/*advertiser censored* girl etc... BUT I would not be surprised if it came out that she did 'favors' on occassion for a little cash or drugs or gifts. But, no, I do not think she was 'hooking'. I think that would have been released if that was the case.

 

[JusticeorJustUs]

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If Casey was a prostitute or escort PLEASE someone show some facts on it - I 've never seen anything and I'd love to know too

One of the things about prostitution and/or escort services is that there is a certain amount of annonymity on both parts. Neither is anything that's generally well-publicized.

I can't see any way on this earth that any of the men she might have been with, if she was in that line of work, would come forward and say, "Yeppers! She was a hooker! I was there!"

Aside from those that are married or those that were supposed to be on a business trip, whatever the reason, do you really think for one minute that any of them is going to stand up and admit it at this point? Consider who it is we're talking about. LOL

They'd be running for the nearest rock to crawl under.

 

[Clock's Tickin]

I don't see many signs that the girl was rolling in the dough. She had money when she stole it but it seems her parents paid for everything for her. The only bill she actually had was her cell phone which was "paid for" by "the Universal". (off topic, but does anybody else call that place THE universal? It just sounds odd). They did have one girl come to LA early on and say KC was a co-worker?? Did she have occasional work at a legit sub for universal? Or could "The Universal" be something else that provided her with chump change income, off the books, on the days she felt like working? I think a lot of her "work nights" were spent at home with Caylee, but she didn't want friends to know mommyhood kept her from partying on those particular nights. Other times she was simply unaccounted for...had to be somewhere...

 

[trac]

One of the things about prostitution and/or escort services is that there is a certain amount of annonymity on both parts. Neither is anything that's generally well-publicized.

I can't see any way on this earth that any of the men she might have been with, if she was in that line of work, would come forward and say, "Yeppers! She was a hooker! I was there!"

Aside from those that are married or those that were supposed to be on a business trip, whatever the reason, do you really think for one minute that any of them is going to stand up and admit it at this point? Consider who it is we're talking about. LOL

They'd be running for the nearest rock to crawl under.

There are ways to prove being a prostitute or an escort - for one an escort she would have worked for someone - being an escort is not illegal, it's a job - if she was an escort and offered sex then that would be a crime - as a prostitute there would be medical records and my guess, with a missing and 90% chance of a dead child - there would be someone who would come forward - if they didn't they could be considered part of the crime

This is the problem - if a person knows of a crime and doesn't report it or doesn't come forward and the police finds him/her - they can be charged as a part of the crime

Oh and being an escort you get a 1099 - yup it's a job

Don't you think at least Amy or Richardo would have known something was up if she was an escort or a prostitute?

I find no facts to support either professions - only question mark to me is why look at the sites regarding being an escort

 

[trac]

I don't see many signs that the girl was rolling in the dough. She had money when she stole it but it seems her parents paid for everything for her. The only bill she actually had was her cell phone which was "paid for" by "the Universal". (off topic, but does anybody else call that place THE universal? It just sounds odd). They did have one girl come to LA early on and say KC was a co-worker?? Did she have occasional work at a legit sub for universal? Or could "The Universal" be something else that provided her with chump change income, off the books, on the days she felt like working? I think a lot of her "work nights" were spent at home with Caylee, but she didn't want friends to know mommyhood kept her from partying on those particular nights. Other times she was simply unaccounted for...had to be somewhere...

Who came forward? I don't remember anyone corraborating her job status - Universal subcontracted to Kodak and Colorvision for pictures at the park (the ones you get on the ride like the Mummy and what not) She was fired basically for abandoning her job in 2006 - she just didn't show up - they have a few of her paycheck stubs in the last document dump somewhere, she worked maybe 1 - 4 hour day a week - she would have been a pain in the arse employee

 

[Clock's Tickin]

Someone named "Heather", who now works for Blockbuster, had contacted Lee about her time on the job with KC. Lee talked about it in one of his first interviews with LE. She indicated that KC changed positions with the company a lot in the Kodak/Colorvision deal. I just wondered if, with all of her efforts to get her friends to "start as seasonal employees" (per her texts) and with "Zani" having a "seasonal" pass/I.D. for Universal, if perhaps KC continued some kind of temp type work arrangement there too. OR perhaps Universal has some shady subcontractors (Orlando is probably chock full of immigrants without paperwork) who would let KC come in when she needed a little $$$. Where I live, there are several "pick up points" where if you hang out in the mornings, sub bosses will pick you up, take you to work and pay you a day's salary in cash---no paperwork/no taxes/just $$

for the days CA wouldn't ante up
or the days some great band was playing and she didn't get in as a roadie
(strange that the photobucket queen never had pics of her "events" to share)

 

[Gaia713]

What doesn't make sense is how did Casey get medical care for Caylee? Did she pay cash at the doctor? Where did she get the cash? Did Caylee have insurance? Where did it come from? Wouldn't CA and GA wonder why Casey wouldn't have insurance if she worked full time at Universal like she'd claimed? I can't imagine a company the size of Universal Studios wouldn't give FT employees health insurance and I'd expect Caylee to be on Casey's if I were her mother. Surely her parents had to question that.

Someone needs to check if Caylee is listed as a dependent on Cindy's insurance. Otherwise, there are usually free clinics for children. I wouldn't put it past Cindy to have Casey on her insurance claiming she was a full tiem student.

 

[Clock's Tickin]

At my job it costs a small fortune to add a dependent to my insurance. CA has already stated that she paid for Caylee's healthcare so KC probably convinced her it was cheaper. Or that her "seasonal" status made her ineligible for benefits??