Bobbi Kristina Brown found unresponsive in bathtub. #3

[SwampMama]

BK's butterfly ring which was WH's



The pic Pat's daughter posted. She didn;t comment at all about BK, how she misses her, prays for her to recover or anything. She just poses in a way that looks like she is showing off the ring.

 

[passionflower]

If the ring belonged to Bobbi Kristina and/or said ring had been Whitney's, why did Nick give the ring to his mother? Jewelry would be part of WH's Estate to which NG has no claim.

VERY TRUE, but I think NG THINKS HE IS ENTITLED and would take anything of value......JMOO
BB kicked him out of Townhome, so that is why I think he HATES BB...............didn't get his way.
NG got nothing from WH, won't get anything from BK............I think he had a fit over that..........JMOO

 

[SwampMama]

BK displaying her "engagement ring". Why she is thanking Nic is a mystery to me. ETA : I thought this was Whitney's ring but apparently it is different than the ring below


The 10 carat ring that WH wore .



BK has worn a few rings as engagement rings and even had the butterfly ring matched with a diamond solitaire at one point.

 

[passionflower]

Thanks SwampMama Very informative post. I never followed the reality shows.
I loved WH music and her voice, but never followed anything. I am learning so much.

 

[passionflower]

and I bet BK paid for the extra band with her money..............what money would NG ever have? LOL...........

 

[Pisto_lius]

Sorry, I limp a little behind

I have doubts that the wife (Michelle Gordon) of Shabba Ranks could be NGs biological mother. The following photo shows both at a concert event in 2014 - and there is no similarity with NGs mother shown at Dr Phil.

http://www.gettyimages.de/detail/na...ife-michelle-gordon-nachrichtenfoto/454366384

Shabba Ranks and his wife married 1992. That same year they had their first son.

NG is born May 1, 1989.....

And as Curious Me said at post #956 - I also have doubts that Michelle "Songbird" Gordon could be NGs biological mother for the same reason: there is no similarity with NGs mother shown at Dr Phil (and she's still at stage as a singer).

I'm not sure but I suspect most of the media wrote the first name of NGs mother wrong because NG spelled her name (in his tweets) *Michele*.

 

[passionflower]

Did BK have a habit of taking her rings off? Did someone take her rings off her before the drowning?
Interested in knowing how and when he rings went to her cousin and MG..............I would feel better if BB and Cissy had them as keepsakes.
NG & MG should not have WH ring period.

 

[SwampMama]

A closer look reveals that these 3 "engagement rings" are different.
This one has a rectangle shape and is from 2012 when their engagement was announced and is likely WH's ring.


This is the "engagement ring" from the 2013 engagement announcement. It looks different than the ring above and is paired with the butterfly ring.


This one is from Jan 2014 and it looks smaller and has a square shape. This was the pic she posted when they announced they were married. So perhaps they got a new ring because of the flack they received over the fact that NG did not actually buy her a ring. But i have no doubt that BK financed this purchase as NG has never held a real job in his life.


The pic below is to just give a closer look at the 2014 ring.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Not sure that I could find it again, but I read an article about NG earlier today about his having spent a lot of BK's inheritance on expensive cars and gifts. This guy sure seems to think he's entitled to whatever belongs to BK. I hope his "funding" has been cut off and that he has no access to credit cards, bank accounts, or any other assets that don't rightfully belong to him. Nick = Major moocher. :moo:

...He may have mishandled some of Bobbi Kristina’s inheritance money.

Gordon bought himself “a bunch of expensive cars and extravagant gifts” with Bobbi Kristina’s inheritance money...

Found it: http://www.vh1.com/music/tuner/2015-03-12/nick-gordon-bobbi-kristina-brown-investigation/

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Did BK have a habit of taking her rings off? Did someone take her rings off her before the drowning?
Interested in knowing how and when he rings went to her cousin and MG..............I would feel better if BB and Cissy had them as keepsakes.
NG & MG should not have WH ring period.

Part of the "clean up" before EMS arrived

 

[Smarty Jones]

I think this is very likely. If the kids were brought along on tours, they may have developed a close relationship simply due to proximity and few other children around. Likewise practices, recording sessions, etc. And I can picture this evolving to where, as a teen wanting to get away from home he might have spent a lot of time at WH house. Could be he was practically living there, and just formally moved in after he turned 18. Moo

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I have/had many musician friends. Their friends and relatives circle around in a family atmosphere. I also think that NG was part of this 'family' before he lived in WH's household. Not strange at all. IIRC, Nicole Richie was 'adopted' by Lionel Richie. Her mother was a back-up singer I think.

 

[Curious Me]

Hate is a very strong word. NG hates BB. What a thing to say when you're under investigation for possibly being responsible for BK's condition now. I definitely don't trust NG, and think his actions have been deplorable.

I'm very sad and concerned about Bobbi Kristina's condition. NG knows what happened just prior to her ending up in that tub. He's created all this storm of drama, but has not answered the real questions. It's been all about him and his new tattoo he got after. Let's see if he comes out clean and sober and somehow is any different of a person because I doubt it.

(BTW, I'm also doubting if his bio mom is the singer.)

 

[swedie]

VERY TRUE, but I think NG THINKS HE IS ENTITLED and would take anything of value......JMOO
BB kicked him out of Townhome, so that is why I think he HATES BB...............didn't get his way.
NG got nothing from WH, won't get anything from BK............I think he had a fit over that..........JMOO

Wonder where NG was living before Dr. Phil sent him to rehab? MG's?

 

[Curious Me]

I'm trying to determine if NG's bio mom was the songbird Michelle. I've started to doubt it.

Michele, not Michelle the songbird? I've looked at pics of the songbird Michelle, and her forehead is higher than the woman's on the Dr. Phil show. I thought they mentioned she traveled from Florida to be on the show.

 

[SwampMama]

Wonder where NG was living before Dr. Phil sent him to rehab? MG's?

People on his twitter and TMZ were saying that he was staying at a hotel called the Roswell suites. Looks like it costs about $90 bucks a day to stay there but they provide free breakfast and have a fridge and microwave in the room. People on twitter were also wondering why his family or friends did not take him in.

I also wonder where he was staying during the times that he and BK were broken up. Whitney's family have said that they got BK to go into rehab at some time (maybe more than once?) and she would get clean and that is when she would break up with NG. Then she would relapse and be back with NG (or get back with NG and then relapse, not sure of the order).

A timeline of breakups and make-ups:
October 2012 - announced engagement on reality show "On Our Own", after months of denials by BK & NG and speculation about their relationship.
November 2012 - broke up after a month or so
July 2013 - announced engagement was back on

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity...ppily-married-see-their-wedding-rings-2014101
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity...tina-nick-gordon-call-off-engagement-20122811

January 9, 2014 - announced on Twitter that they were married.

 

[rachaellouise]

I just finished watching the "on our own" tv show and BK was high out of her mind the whole time. Nodding off, slurring her words. Seems like everyone knew but didn't want her to feel like they're attacking her so soon after her mothers death, so pussyfooted around the impending storm. Also another thing I noticed, when BK was obviously under the influence NG wasn't. You'd assume a couple (if they're both into drugs) would get high together but not him. Almost like a having her under his control type thing? JMO


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[SwampMama]

Intelius is NOT accurate or reliable. Case in point: DH and I were linked to people we had never met and were definitely NOT relatives. Among the people who were supposedly connected to us per Intelius was someone wanted for tax evasion, band and credit card fraud. We started getting phone calls from creditors who thought we were the people they were looking for. This went on for several months - a major mess that we tracked to information available on Intelius. We contacted Intelius and asked them to remove every bit of information they had for us. The site is fine to use for "recreational" purposes, but PLEASE do not assume that the information you find is accurate or reliable.

I never go completely on the info on intelius. I did not say that it was always completely accurate. I used phrases as "seems to be" and "could be" to indicate that it is a possibility worth exploring further. It often gives me a great direction to go in and I was able find more info on one of his potential brothers. That potential brother uses the last name of NG's potential father/stepfather as part of his twitter name and refers to NG as a brother.

I was also able to find this pic of NG's mom when she was younger (could we use it to compare to the MG "songbird to rule her out as NG's mom?) There is also a man in the pic along with NG and another child who seems to be a brother of NG's. The man does not have the same name as the potential father so he was probably just been a former bf of his mom's that he stays in touch with. https://twitter.com/nickdgordon/status/570714280846352384/photo/1

Believe me, I spend hours researching and looking up bits and pieces of info that seem to corroborate the bits of info that I think are possibilities.

 

[tlcya]

I hesitate to pursue finding/naming NG bio dad anyway. He is not a suspect/POI/named in the press and apparently has not been part of the picture. Seems like continuing along that path will bring us toward trouble.

 

[jggordo]

Intelius is NOT accurate or reliable. Case in point: DH and I were linked to people we had never met and were definitely NOT relatives. Among the people who were supposedly connected to us per Intelius was someone wanted for tax evasion, bank and credit card fraud. We started getting phone calls from creditors who thought we were the people they were looking for This went on for several months - a major mess that we tracked to information available on Intelius. We contacted Intelius and asked them to remove every bit of information they had for us. The site is fine to use for "recreational" purposes, but PLEASE do not assume that the information you find is accurate or reliable.

Thus the reason we are not to sleuth family members or suspected family members of POI's of suspects. These outside the focus folks did not do anything to be investigated other than possibly being related in a family way. The site mentioned above has my father still listed and he died 13 years ago. Many people like NG do not show on the radar because they have never filed for credit and mooch off other people for a life thier live at others expense.

JMO's

 

[Coldpizza]

Guys, please don't start sleuthing random family members, that's not how we roll here.

Thanks