Bosma Murder Trial 05.17.16 - Day 50

[CJPRINCESS]

May 17 2016 2:52 PM Adam Carter
One of the court clerks now totally has his face in his hands during this cross examination as it goes on.

May 17 2016 2:55 PM Adam Carter
Smich says it never came up that other friends of Millard's could help them steal a truck. "If it was going to happen, then that conversation would come up," Smich says. "If he decided he was going to steal ... he was confident to call up his friends and help him steal." "Yes, he had lots of people under his thumb he could call up," Smich says.

 

[brightii]

I think NS is doing a pretty good job of backing MS into a corner to suggest that DM scoped out other trucks with MS previous to TB's and it was all DM's plan and that DM never in the past made a decision that would deviate from the plan if if was too risky and could get them caught. NS is surely trying to set up a scenario to suggest that it was MS who deviated from DM's plan. I wonder if MS is catching on to this strategy?

All MOO.

 

[Typhoo1961]

May 17 2016 2:52 PM Adam Carter
One of the court clerks now totally has his face in his hands during this cross examination as it goes on.

Good lord! Does this cross examination have a point to it?

 

[Inspector_North]

May 17 2016 2:52 PM Adam Carter
One of the court clerks now totally has his face in his hands during this cross examination as it goes on.

May 17 2016 2:55 PM
Smich says it never came up that other friends of Millard's could help them steal a truck. "If it was going to happen, then that conversation would come up," Smich says. "If he decided he was going to steal ... he was confident to call up his friends and help him steal." "Yes, he had lots of people under his thumb he could call up," Smich says.

 

[CJPRINCESS]

May 17 2016 2:57 PM Adam Carter
"Because of who Dell was, the power, the status, the wealth ... people gravitated to him," Sachak says. Smich says yes.

May 17 2016 2:57 PM Adam Carter
"He had the power to call and text people and say, 'Mission tonight, I need your help to steal,'" Sachak says. Smich says yes, but that wouldn't happen regularly.

May 17 2016 2:59 PM Adam Carter
Sachak says Millard wanted a red 3500. "He says it would be a bonus if it was red," Smich says.

 

[Kamille]

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"You're in it with him for a year," Sachak says. "And it's his plan, I know it's his plan." Smich agrees. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 55s56 seconds ago
Smich says that only would've come up if they were going to make it happen. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak asking about the thefts that were done spur of the moment, like the Bobcat. Millard would text friends last-minute for help

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 46s46 seconds ago
Millard "had lots of people under his thumb," Smich says. Sachak says Millard had ability to recruit people, didn't he?

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Questions about planning missions. Smich says he's seen texts in court. "You're in it (plan to steal truck) with him for a year, right?" Yes

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says Millard "had a lot people under his thumb he could call up." #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
"Dell had lots of people under his thumb." Smich not really answering Millard's lawyer's questions. #Bosma @CTVNews

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
Smich says it never came up that other friends of Millard's could help them steal a truck. #TimBosma #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak tells Smich his words are "beautiful." #Bosm

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says a lot of people felt safe around Millard, and confident in him.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"He had people under his thumb because he had money, right," Sachak says. "He had wealth, right?"

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
Looking over at Dellen Millard - no reaction. Nothing today. Staring at Smich. #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak says people gravitated toward Millard. Smich says he doesn't know, asks him to rephrase. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
"Because of the status, the wealth, the privilege, people gravitated to him," Sachak says. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich says within Millard's group of friends that'd be correct. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"People gravitated toward him, didn't they? Didn't they? Because of the power, wealth privilege." Sachak says.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
"With his circle of friends, I would say that's correct, Smich says. Millard could call those friends last minute for help in theft.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 43s43 seconds ago
Dell had a Dodge. He wanted a Dodge. He had a 3500. He wanted a similar size, Sachak says. Smich agrees

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
"He had the power to call and text people and say, 'Mission tonight, I need your help to steal,'" Sachak says. #TimBosma #Bosma

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says yes, but that wouldn't happen regularly. #TimBosma #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak suggests Dell had a Dodge, wanted a Dodge. Smich agrees. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich adds his preference would've been red. "He's meticulous about what he wants," Sachak suggests. Smich agrees. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 52s52 seconds ago
Sachak suggests Dell's plan was to remove the VIN from his own truck and put it in the stolen truck. Smich agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 14s14 seconds ago
The plates would be swapped out as well--so he could use it without getting caught. Smich agrees. #Bosma

 

[cckp72]

Note to self: if ever in trouble, hire Dungey as lawyer - NOT Sachak.

 

[Kamille]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Smich agrees Millard was going to switch the stolen truck for his red one. That's why it had to be a Dodge 3500. Main thing was diesel.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 40s41 seconds ago
"As time went on he was getting more anxious to get it," Smich says plans changed over time.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Smich: "And as time went on he was getting more anxious to get it."

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
"Plans were changing over time, and there was different scoping of trucks," Smich says. #TimBosma #Bosma

 

[Kamille]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Dungey rises, again says his client needs to be allowed to answer the questions.

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
Millard's lawyer now using a southern accent when talking to Smich. Trying to get his evidence on stealing the truck. #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
The only two test drives involved a Dodge 3500 truck, Sachak says. Smich agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 38s38 seconds ago
Sachak suggests Shane Schlatman had the know-how to remove an ignition and put in a new one. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 56s56 seconds ago
Smich says he and Dell only did test drives of Dodge 3500 diesels. Sachak says Schlatman could put in new ignition. Smich says not sure.

 

[CJPRINCESS]

May 17 2016 3:01 PM Adam Carter
Smich says Millard's plan was to repaint the truck and put the VIN number from his red Dodge onto the stolen truck.

May 17 2016 3:01 PM Adam Carter
"Plans were changing over time, and there was different scoping of trucks," Smich says.

May 17 2016 3:03 PM Adam Carter
The only two test drives Millard and Smich went on involved a Dodge, Smich says.

May 17 2016 3:04 PM Adam Carter
"Shane Schlatman has the knowledge and the skill to remove the ignition in a stolen vehicle and put in a new ignition," Sachak says. Smich says he doesn't know, but he knows Schlatman is "very handy."


Fixed, added Adam Carter's name so there isn't any confusion later

 

[RandomName479]

Good lord! Does this cross examination have a point to it?

NS is jumping all over the place. So I'm thinking he must have a point and is trying to back MS into a corner......waiting for that "gotcha" moment.....but MS has been under cross-examination for almost 10 hours......and I don't see the finish line in sight.....MOO

 

[RandomName479]

Note to self: if ever in trouble, hire Dungey as lawyer - NOT Sachak.

Dungey definitely gets to the point a lot more quickly......his cross examinations (and even his direct of MS) seemed much more effective and efficient......MOO

 

[cckp72]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Dungey rises, again says his client needs to be allowed to answer the questions.

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
Millard's lawyer now using a southern accent when talking to Smich. Trying to get his evidence on stealing the truck. #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
The only two test drives involved a Dodge 3500 truck, Sachak says. Smich agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 38s38 seconds ago
Sachak suggests Shane Schlatman had the know-how to remove an ignition and put in a new one. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 56s56 seconds ago
Smich says he and Dell only did test drives of Dodge 3500 diesels. Sachak says Schlatman could put in new ignition. Smich says not sure.

WHAT? Why on earth would he do that!?

 

[CJPRINCESS]

May 17 2016 3:05 PM Adam Carter
The point that Sachak keeps going over is the plan was to steal a truck, paint it red, and then swap the VIN and the plates for MIllard's red truck.

May 17 2016 3:06 PM Adam Carter
Smich says he knows how to steal older vehicles with a flat head screwdriver.

May 17 2016 3:07 PM Adam Carter
Smich says he has done that on two occasions.

May 17 2016 3:07 PM Adam Carter
Smich says he knows this only works on older vehicles.

 

[Kamille]

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich says he doesn't know. Has heard that in court. knows he's very handy and does a lot of Dell's work. #Bosma

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
"Shan Schlatman has the knowledge and the skill to remove the ignition in a stolen vehicle and put in a new ignition," Sachak says. #Bosma

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says he doesn't know, but he knows Schlatman is "very handy." #TimBosma #Bosma

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 53s53 seconds ago
The point that Sachak keeps going over is the plan was to steal a truck, paint it red ... #TimBosma #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Sachak says he wants to talk about popping ignition and attaching wires to steal vehicles. Smich testified this was old way of doing it.

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak says that Smich has testified he had stolen vehicles before and knew how to pop the ignition on older cars. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 53s54 seconds ago
Sachak asks how many times he's done that. Smich says "on two occasions." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 35s36 seconds ago
Sachak asks what year manufacturers changed it so you can't do that. Smich says he's not sure. #Bosma

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Smich explains to court how to pop the ignition with a screwdriver. He says he's done it twice. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 48s49 seconds ago
On two occasions Smich stole cars using a screwdriver in the ignition. He's not sure when automakers changed their ignitions to combat theft

 

[Typhoo1961]

WHAT? Why on earth would he do that!?

Maybe he thinks he is Gregory Peck.

 

[Kamille]

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says he knows this only works on older vehicles. #TimBosma #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Toronto, Ontario
Sachak now talking to Smich about the method of stealing a vehicle. #Bosma #HamOnt

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak asks about hot-wiring. Smich says he wasn't sure how, but recalls Shane showing Millard how to do it on one of his cars at the hangar

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Smich says he's not familiar with "hot wiring" though Shane Schlatman showed Millard how to do it. Smich doesn't remember what car they used

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 52s53 seconds ago
Smich says he and Dell were talking about it. Shane showed Dell how to do it, but Smich says he was working on another vehicle.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 20s21 seconds ago
Smich didn't need to know how to do it "Because I would have just kept six."

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich says in case of stealing a newer vehicle it'd be his job to "keep 6." He only knew how to steal older vehicles. #Bosma

 

[CJPRINCESS]

May 17 2016 3:08 PM Adam Carter
Smich says Schlatman showed Millard how to hot wire one day at the hangar. He says he doesn't remember on what vehicle.

May 17 2016 3:08 PM Adam Carter
"He went to Shane and asked him and Shane would have shown him," Smich says.

May 17 2016 3:11 PM Adam Carter
"Dell says I now have learned how to hotwire a vehicle - was he excited?" Sachak asks. "I wouldn't say excited," Smich says.

 

[Kamille]

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 57s58 seconds ago
Sachak asks what work he was doing at the hangar while Shane was showing Millard how to Hotwire. He says he was nearby, doesn't know. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Smich: "There's so many vehicles there, as you have pointed out, I wouldn't be able to tell you which vehicle" they practiced hot wiring on.

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak says Dell then presumably told him he knew how to Hotwire. Smich says yes. But he didn't ask him to show him how. #Bosma

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
"Dell says I now have learned how to hotwire a vehicle - was he excited?" Sachak asks. "I wouldn't say excited," Smich says #TimBosma #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says he "was around" when Schlatman was teaching Millard how to jump start a car. Smich didn't ask to learn.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"I would have seen what they were doing from a distance. I would have been working on another vehicle," Smich says.

 

[Massasauga Rattler]

susan clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
dungey rises, again says his client needs to be allowed to answer the questions.

Peter akman ‏@peterakmanctv 1m1 minute ago
millard's lawyer now using a southern accent when talking to smich. trying to get his evidence on stealing the truck. #bosma @ctvnews

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
the only two test drives involved a dodge 3500 truck, sachak says. Smich agrees. #bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 38s38 seconds ago
sachak suggests shane schlatman had the know-how to remove an ignition and put in a new one. #bosma

susan clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 56s56 seconds ago
smich says he and dell only did test drives of dodge 3500 diesels. Sachak says schlatman could put in new ignition. Smich says not sure.

wtf???