Brooke Bennett, 12 years old Randolph VT #13

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Where Kevin lives in relation to his SO nephew is about an hour and a half by car.
I also stumbled across a mention how someone that monitors the pedo message sites ( I personally wouldn't be able to keep my food down) that there's talk of concern for MJ and RG. How sick is that?
 
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/200/321/

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Plaintiff-Appellant-Cross-Appellee,v.JOHN STEPHEN GROSENHEIDER, Defendant-Appellee-Cross-Appellant
IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS, FIFTH CIRCUIT - 200 F.3d 321 (5th Cir. 2000)
January 11, 2000

Brother of Kevin who likes the kiddie *advertiser censored*.


I believe from past posts and busylady's work that John Stephen is the son of Delno G (who is KG's brother), thus that makes him KG's nephew!
 
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/200/321/

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Plaintiff-Appellant-Cross-Appellee,v.JOHN STEPHEN GROSENHEIDER, Defendant-Appellee-Cross-Appellant
IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS, FIFTH CIRCUIT - 200 F.3d 321 (5th Cir. 2000)
January 11, 2000

Brother of Kevin who likes the kiddie *advertiser censored*.

Holy crap, good find, Jaded.
On October 24, 1997, Grosenheider dropped off his personal computer for repair work at Upgraders, a computer repair shop in Austin, Texas. While conducting afinal quality assurance check of the computer on Thursday, October 30, 1997, Upgraders employee Patrick Rowan (Rowan) discovered an unusually large number of image files, known as "JPG's", on the computer's hard drive. Knowing that JPG's in large numbers often depict pornographic images, Rowan opened some of these files and found between two and five images of child *advertiser censored*. Rowan showed the images to his employer, Nathaniel Monks (Monks), the owner of Upgraders, as well as to two other employees, all of whom agreed that the images depicted child *advertiser censored*. The repairs now complete, the Upgraders staff returned the computer to the retail store for pick up. Grosenheider retrieved the computer some time later that day.1
4 At approximately 9:00 a.m. the next morning, Friday, October 31, 1997, Monks contacted the Austin Police Department about the images Rowan had discovered. He spoke with Steven Meaux (Meaux), a vice officer, and informed Meaux about the images he had seen and the fact that the computer was now back in Grosenheider's possession. Meaux arrived at Upgraders thirty to forty-five minutes later. His primary purpose was to identify and interview the staff members who had seen the images. Meaux first entered the retail store, but an employee directed him to the tech shop, where Monks, Rowan, and the other employees who had seen the images were waiting. When Meaux got there, Monks told him that Grosenheider had brought the computer back that morning because the hard drive was still not operating properly, and that Rowan had begun working on it in the tech shop. As Meaux began to interview the assembled employees, another employee entered the tech shop and said that Grosenheider had again returned to the retail store, asking about his computer. Meaux told Monks to "stall" Grosenheider by telling him the store needed to order additional parts. Monks complied, and from the tech shop Meaux watched Grosenheider leave the retail store and drive away.

5 After Grosenheider left, Meaux completed his interview of Rowan, Monks, and the other employees about the images they had seen on the computer. They told him that the images depicted young girls approximately ten years old engaged in sexual conduct of various kinds. During this time, Rowan had been working on his repair of Grosenheider's computer, a process which took approximately fifteen minutes to complete. There is some dispute -which the district court expressly declined to resolve-whether Meaux then asked to see or Rowan offered to show him the pictures. In any event, Rowan attempted to access the images on the computer, only to find them "locked", that is, inaccessible without a password. The password lock had not appeared the day before. Unable to override the lock, Rowan asked another, more experienced Upgraders employee, Cary Richardson (Richardson), for help. By using another image viewing program, Richardson by-passed the lock. Rowan then showed Meaux the images he had seen the day before, as well as additional ones. After viewing between six and ten images, Meaux "had seen enough" to determine that the computer contained depictions of child *advertiser censored*.

6 At approximately 11:00 a.m., Meaux took the computer from Upgraders to his office at the Austin Police Department, and contacted Theodore Siggins (Siggins), a special agent with the United States Customs Service. Meaux advised Siggins of his discovery and asked if Siggins was interested in pursuing a federal investigation. Sigginsagreed to take over the case, and immediately began preparing a search warrant affidavit. In his affidavit, Siggins recounted the discovery by the Upgraders staff of the pornographic images, Grosenheider's bringing the computer back to Upgraders, and the call from Monks to Meaux. He did not mention Meaux's viewing of the images or his seizure of the computer. At approximately 4:30 p.m. that afternoon, Siggins applied for and received a warrant to search the computer from a United States Magistrate Judge.

7 After obtaining the warrant, Siggins secured the computer from Meaux and took it to Upgraders, where he informed Monks that he had a warrant for the computer and would return it to Upgraders once he had finished searching it. Siggins then took the computer back to his office and made a backup image of the computer's entire hard drive. He analyzed the image on one of the government's computers, and found that Grosenheider had subscribed to Forte Agent, an on-line service that enables subscribers to access various "newsgroups" on the Internet.2 Grosenheider had subscribed to fifteen newsgroups, thirteen of which featured images and messages concerning child *advertiser censored*.3 Siggins found that from these newsgroups Grosenheider had downloaded over 500 images of young females, ages ten to fourteen, engaged in various sexually explicit acts. Grosenheider had also established over 250 files, each of which contained at least one image of child *advertiser censored* and sometimes included textual commentary with the image. Siggins determined further that Grosenheider had viewed many of these images more than once because the "creation date" on the files sometimes differed from the "last access date", meaning that the file had been modified or viewed after being downloaded. Based on these findings, Siggins applied for and received another warrant to search Grosenheider's home in Austin.

8 On the following Monday, November 3, 1997, Siggins returned the computer to Upgraders in anticipation of a "controlled delivery." Grosenheider's wife picked up the computer from Upgraders that same day and took it back to their home. Federal agents followed Mrs. Grosenheider to the residence; upon her arrival, they executed the search warrant. The agents seized the computer, but did not find any additional child *advertiser censored* at the residence.

(MUCH more at link) :eek:

Note the ages: 10-14 yrs of age. GAG
 
Where Kevin lives in relation to his SO nephew is about an hour and a half by car.
I also stumbled across a mention how someone that monitors the pedo message sites ( I personally wouldn't be able to keep my food down) that there's talk of concern for MJ and RG. How sick is that?



That IS sick! I wonder who is monitering them? Perverted Justice (of Dateline fame?) I may have to mosey over and check it out!
 
Where Kevin lives in relation to his SO nephew is about an hour and a half by car.
I also stumbled across a mention how someone that monitors the pedo message sites ( I personally wouldn't be able to keep my food down) that there's talk of concern for MJ and RG. How sick is that?

That to me sounds as though they were involved in the trading or selling of kiddie *advertiser censored*. So it's possible that he could have taken the safe to JG. Hope the FBI is searching his residence as well.

It's very sick IMO. Pedos can sniff each other out and know how to find each other. It's disgusting and the internet just makes it easier for them to band together.
 
WHOA! I just saw on Fox News gagnon being escorted in handcuffs!! hang on a sec, I paused my TV. Maybe I can get a picture of it?
 
<snip>2 Grosenheider had subscribed to fifteen newsgroups, thirteen of which featured images and messages concerning child *advertiser censored*.3 Siggins found that from these newsgroups Grosenheider had downloaded over 500 images of young females, ages ten to fourteen, engaged in various sexually explicit acts. <snip>

(MUCH more at link) :eek:

Note the ages: 10-14 yrs of age. GAG


Yep, you caught the age range of girls that he is interested in, too. I'm betting nephew KG is in this - there is NO OTHER WAY he would get involved in it if he wasn't.

There are a few blogs out there that monitor pedo communities and message boards. I know that there was A LOT of pedo groups on LiveJournal last year and perverted justice along with other individuals were trying to make them accountable and get them to clean up their act and stop sponsoring pedo journals. There were some SICK groups on there.
 
Excuse my ignorance guys. I have just now started to read all the threads on this and am so freaking confused it's not funny. Is there a thread where it has a list of who's who and what is their involvement?

I would really like to follow this story. It literally breaks my heart about some of the stuff I have read. I would really like to understand it all so as to when new info comes out, I know what they are talking about........

Thanks guys!!!!
 
They must have the wrong footage because this guy looks way younger than the sketch. He has blond hair and an orange jumpsuit. And I can't tell if the patch is Vermont on the officer's that are escorting him. ARGH!!!!
 
gigi, I don't think that was Gagnon. I think that was that armed and dangerous guy that was being hunted down last week for killing like 5 people, and was finally apprehended near St Louis.

ETA Yes, wrong footage, and I was yelling at my tv. lol
 
They must have the wrong footage because this guy looks way younger than the sketch. He has blond hair and an orange jumpsuit. And I can't tell if the patch is Vermont on the officer's that are escorting him. ARGH!!!!
Dearest Gigi,:blowkiss:
The Feds transported both.

Even though they are in state facilitied here, the Feds transport them.
The inmates in Springfield and St. Albans wear uniforms. The Federal inmates wear orange jumpsuits.


Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
 
Excuse my ignorance guys. I have just now started to read all the threads on this and am so freaking confused it's not funny. Is there a thread where it has a list of who's who and what is their involvement?

I would really like to follow this story. It literally breaks my heart about some of the stuff I have read. I would really like to understand it all so as to when new info comes out, I know what they are talking about........

Thanks guys!!!!


It is mind boggling! I don't know the easiest place to find all of that out- there are threads for Brooke's family (maternal & paternal) and that is helpful, but since I think we may have other players not connected by blood, but possibly by location (ie ALA for RG and KG), we may need to start a Players thread to show this 'family vine' and how all these folks are connected. That will take some doing, akin to tracing the Steed family roots in the FLDS! LOL
 
Gagnon and Jacques are not allowed to send letters back and forth to get their stories straight.


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

dark_shadows,
Excellent information. I was worried that they may try to communicate.....
Happy Monday ds.:blowkiss:
 
Geez, you'd think they'd realize that!!!


It's hard to get good help these days, so I hear. ;) Makes you wonder if they just throw "whatever" footage up there and hope no one notices. ;)
 
Holy crap, good find, Jaded.
On October 24, 1997, Grosenheider dropped off his personal computer for repair work at Upgraders, a computer repair shop in Austin, Texas. While conducting afinal quality assurance check of the computer on Thursday, October 30, 1997, Upgraders employee Patrick Rowan (Rowan) discovered an unusually large number of image files, known as "JPG's", on the computer's hard drive. Knowing that JPG's in large numbers often depict pornographic images, Rowan opened some of these files and found between two and five images of child *advertiser censored*. Rowan showed the images to his employer, Nathaniel Monks (Monks), the owner of Upgraders, as well as to two other employees, all of whom agreed that the images depicted child *advertiser censored*. The repairs now complete, the Upgraders staff returned the computer to the retail store for pick up. Grosenheider retrieved the computer some time later that day.1
4 At approximately 9:00 a.m. the next morning, Friday, October 31, 1997, Monks contacted the Austin Police Department about the images Rowan had discovered. He spoke with Steven Meaux (Meaux), a vice officer, and informed Meaux about the images he had seen and the fact that the computer was now back in Grosenheider's possession. Meaux arrived at Upgraders thirty to forty-five minutes later. His primary purpose was to identify and interview the staff members who had seen the images. Meaux first entered the retail store, but an employee directed him to the tech shop, where Monks, Rowan, and the other employees who had seen the images were waiting. When Meaux got there, Monks told him that Grosenheider had brought the computer back that morning because the hard drive was still not operating properly, and that Rowan had begun working on it in the tech shop. As Meaux began to interview the assembled employees, another employee entered the tech shop and said that Grosenheider had again returned to the retail store, asking about his computer. Meaux told Monks to "stall" Grosenheider by telling him the store needed to order additional parts. Monks complied, and from the tech shop Meaux watched Grosenheider leave the retail store and drive away.

5 After Grosenheider left, Meaux completed his interview of Rowan, Monks, and the other employees about the images they had seen on the computer. They told him that the images depicted young girls approximately ten years old engaged in sexual conduct of various kinds. During this time, Rowan had been working on his repair of Grosenheider's computer, a process which took approximately fifteen minutes to complete. There is some dispute -which the district court expressly declined to resolve-whether Meaux then asked to see or Rowan offered to show him the pictures. In any event, Rowan attempted to access the images on the computer, only to find them "locked", that is, inaccessible without a password. The password lock had not appeared the day before. Unable to override the lock, Rowan asked another, more experienced Upgraders employee, Cary Richardson (Richardson), for help. By using another image viewing program, Richardson by-passed the lock. Rowan then showed Meaux the images he had seen the day before, as well as additional ones. After viewing between six and ten images, Meaux "had seen enough" to determine that the computer contained depictions of child *advertiser censored*.

6 At approximately 11:00 a.m., Meaux took the computer from Upgraders to his office at the Austin Police Department, and contacted Theodore Siggins (Siggins), a special agent with the United States Customs Service. Meaux advised Siggins of his discovery and asked if Siggins was interested in pursuing a federal investigation. Sigginsagreed to take over the case, and immediately began preparing a search warrant affidavit. In his affidavit, Siggins recounted the discovery by the Upgraders staff of the pornographic images, Grosenheider's bringing the computer back to Upgraders, and the call from Monks to Meaux. He did not mention Meaux's viewing of the images or his seizure of the computer. At approximately 4:30 p.m. that afternoon, Siggins applied for and received a warrant to search the computer from a United States Magistrate Judge.

7 After obtaining the warrant, Siggins secured the computer from Meaux and took it to Upgraders, where he informed Monks that he had a warrant for the computer and would return it to Upgraders once he had finished searching it. Siggins then took the computer back to his office and made a backup image of the computer's entire hard drive. He analyzed the image on one of the government's computers, and found that Grosenheider had subscribed to Forte Agent, an on-line service that enables subscribers to access various "newsgroups" on the Internet.2 Grosenheider had subscribed to fifteen newsgroups, thirteen of which featured images and messages concerning child *advertiser censored*.3 Siggins found that from these newsgroups Grosenheider had downloaded over 500 images of young females, ages ten to fourteen, engaged in various sexually explicit acts. Grosenheider had also established over 250 files, each of which contained at least one image of child *advertiser censored* and sometimes included textual commentary with the image. Siggins determined further that Grosenheider had viewed many of these images more than once because the "creation date" on the files sometimes differed from the "last access date", meaning that the file had been modified or viewed after being downloaded. Based on these findings, Siggins applied for and received another warrant to search Grosenheider's home in Austin.

8 On the following Monday, November 3, 1997, Siggins returned the computer to Upgraders in anticipation of a "controlled delivery." Grosenheider's wife picked up the computer from Upgraders that same day and took it back to their home. Federal agents followed Mrs. Grosenheider to the residence; upon her arrival, they executed the search warrant. The agents seized the computer, but did not find any additional child *advertiser censored* at the residence.

(MUCH more at link) :eek:

Note the ages: 10-14 yrs of age. GAG

interesting....thanks TM!

eta....& Jaded!
 
deltadawn, the only problem I have is #5...why would she need to get her bf's semen on a hanky if she thought Brooke was alive or to be kept alive? Without that, I could see it, but there really would be no reason to plant the semen unless to blame bf for the rape and murder of Brooke. Am I missing something here?


No I don't think you are..she got the semen a few days earlier and I think she thought that if Brooke said anything they would blame the sexual adventures on AR's boyfriend. I think she still thought of this as an initiation of Brooke into this group called Breckenridge. And I think her willingness to blame sex with Brooke on her Boyfriend shows she has no understanding of love and commitment..just sex where women are humilitated is her norm. So very sad for her.

I think that Brooke had been used by Gagnon in the past, but had refused his advances recently on a visit ..they thought she might be catching on and decided to eliminate her in the worst possible way.
 
It's hard to get good help these days, so I hear. ;) Makes you wonder if they just throw "whatever" footage up there and hope no one notices. ;)

yep...i noticed that also...they didn't miss a beat with the reporting, ugh
 
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