CA - 10 children rescued from horrible conditions, Fairfield, 31 Mar 2018 *Arrests*

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Jax49 said:
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OMG...he came across as beyond creepy...made my skin crawl.

imho
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Why is he talking like my 17 year old stepdaughter when she’s telling me about nonsensical drama that she thinks is such a big deal? Or like that creepy guy at a party who took too much molly and gets too passionate in conversation. He is certainly out there, that’s for sure. Creepy.
 
Extremely curious how a sitch this insane manages to fly by the radar this long.

Specifically came here to remark upon dudes' out of touch mannerisms.

What movie did he conjure up in his imagination, and what character is he dressing up for the public as.

Somewhere out there, those kids are getting by... they will be screaming when they see this freakish interview (been there, done that, should have written a book on it).
 
human said:
A few nights is one thing but night after night, day after day? Of course, other cultures do not have the luxury of bedrooms for each child.

Whatever the case may be , the description and pictures of the house with feces trumps any sleeping arrangement explanations
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Yes, night after night, day after day. I know. This is normal in some situations for extended periods. And, as I mentioned, that sleeping arrangement can result in solace.

As far as rooms, I am more concerned about the use of the "meditation room" than the dorm, and what it was really used for.
 
RickshawFan said:
Did this new article get posted already? Sick, sick, sick...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/us/alleged-abuse-of-california-children/index.html
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Goodbye! So Long! Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!!!

I know they have to plead not guilty... seriously though... there should be a unique charge making perps who waste taxpayer funds eligible to experience the inhumane acts they've bestowed on those they've tortured.

Just a perk of fighting their just desserts.
 
I am curious about when these children have last been to a pediatrician or doctor. I would venture to guess they haven't been seen by anyone outside of the home in many years for fear of the parents being exposed to the scars of abuse they have inflicted upon their beautiful children.
 
There are some really weird things about this case on both sides.

When I first read the description in the media, I was imagining a run-down house full of garbage like we see in a lot of hoarding/mental/drug abuse cases. Then I saw the photos, and in spite of the bathroom, the house looks exactly like a house that has been "tossed" and the bathroom looks exactly like a puppy has been kept in it and not cleaned in several days. So at first, I thought this might be a legit case of people judging this family or overreacting.

Then I saw the Osiris eye on Allen and the photo of the altar in the "meditation room" and can understand completely why the police reacted the way they did and why Ina is so calm and bewildered.

what I wonder now is why the media is so obsessed with the poop-floor and is totally glossing over the satan worship bit which is the core of this story.

I believe Allan is a Nuwauban Nation follower or member of an offshot Osiris cult, growing a family of 10 children they treated as slaves (I know we have a thread around here somewhere on them). Here is the wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwaubian_Nation
I am also certain he was on LE radar ahead of this incident.
 
Who posted her first bail? She couldn't post her own bail, right? Someone else had to come and do it, or am I wrong?
 
Elley Mae said:
Rogers claims the mess came from her tearing the house apart to look for her son in March. Lt. Hurlbut said officers found the boy sleeping under a bush in a neighbor's yard.

http://pix11.com/2018/05/14/parents...n-found-in-squalor-describe-years-of-torture/

During the following six weeks, investigators say the children started to open up about how Allen was treating them.

"The children described incidents of intentional abuse, puncture wounds, burns, bruising and injuries consistent with being shot with a pellet or BB gun," Hurlbut said.

"When the children were safe with other family members it came to light that there was significant abuse and incidents of torture," Chief Deputy District Attorney Sharon Henry said. "The children who were interviewed talked about the incidents, which went back several years."

Allegations in the criminal complaint date back to 2014, Henry said.

"That's why this is absolutely crazy," Rogers said of the children's father. "He was the nice guy. He was the one playing video games with them and I was telling them we need to clean up and do chores."

Rogers allowed KTXL to see the conditions inside her home but she claimed the mess was made by the police department when they arrested Allen.
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So the police officers threw animal feces all over the bathroom floor?
 
Here it comes...

"Records obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle show Allen’s abuse allegations date back to late 2011. That year, Ina Rogers called police to tell them she’d spent the night away from home after Allen threatened to rip her head off, police said. Allen had reportedly threatened to kill her five children, which included two from a previous relationship, the Chronicle reported.

Rogers told police she had for years been a victim of domestic violence, revealing a black eye from under her sunglasses and a fading bruise on her calf, the Chronicle reported. She also alleged that Allen put a .22-caliber gun into her mouth and threatened to shoot her, forcing her to beg for her life."

"Allen pleaded no contest to a charge of corporal injury as part of a deal with prosecutors, and was sentenced to 180 days and three years of probation. He was released in January 2015, according to the Chronicle."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eatment-officials-say/?utm_term=.878e4a5c757f
 
Jax49 said:
bbm

OMG...he came across as beyond creepy...made my skin crawl.

imho
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One creepy thing he said stood out to me...he said something like..." if my kids said they were tortured, can a doctor prove that?"

That is a very odd thing to say...sounds like he is admitting it , imo.
 
Gigglingtoes said:
Here it comes...

"Records obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle show Allen’s abuse allegations date back to late 2011. That year, Ina Rogers called police to tell them she’d spent the night away from home after Allen threatened to rip her head off, police said. Allen had reportedly threatened to kill her five children, which included two from a previous relationship, the Chronicle reported.

Rogers told police she had for years been a victim of domestic violence, revealing a black eye from under her sunglasses and a fading bruise on her calf, the Chronicle reported. She also alleged that Allen put a .22-caliber gun into her mouth and threatened to shoot her, forcing her to beg for her life."

"Allen pleaded no contest to a charge of corporal injury as part of a deal with prosecutors, and was sentenced to 180 days and three years of probation. He was released in January 2015, according to the Chronicle."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eatment-officials-say/?utm_term=.878e4a5c757f
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So, her response to all that, was to CONTINUE having babies with this vicious guy. Great plan, Mom.
 
katydid23 said:
One creepy thing he said stood out to me...he said something like..." if my kids said they were tortured, can a doctor prove that?"

That is a very odd thing to say...sounds like he is admitting it , imo.
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Same crap Mother said. "Do they have broken bones? Major scars?" she said
 
This whole thing is really weird. He is obviously very violent and he didn't get violent yesterday, he has a long history of abuse. To me, it looks like she only reported the abuse if it was aimed at her. He probably started abusing the kids and stopped abusing her so, she kept her mouth shut. How a person goes back to someone like this and has more kids with that person is beyond me. How many kids do they have together and how many kids do they have from previous relationships? Also, both parents had jobs, which leads me to question who was homeschooling the children and when they started being homeschooled.
 
katydid23 said:
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So the police officers threw animal feces all over the bathroom floor?
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In his interview, he says the bathroom was from his german shepard puppy. That dog needs to be removed as well. HOWEVER, there was a news report that said there was human feces as WELL as animal feces in that bathroom.
 
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