CA - 14 killed in San Bernardino mass shooting, 2 Dec 2015 #2

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Heads are going to roll over them letting the media into that apartment with all of that evidence left lying around in plain sight.

If I had to take a guess.....I'd guess the orders to release the dwelling back to the landlord came from high up......REALLY high up.............and that may include the White House or at least the Justice Dept..

They don't want this to be a terror attack. They don't want this to be far reaching. They don't want this to be wide reaching. They don't want any other people to have been involved. This move will pretty much insure it.

We've got our two attackers.....they're dead.........case closed.

This is an "in your face" cover up by the powers that be. This will go a long way to sabotage any further conspirators from being convicted.

Brilliant post, Steelman.
 
Nope. But now we've seen it all.

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My first thought was "Only in America" but then I couldn't remember if we'd seen the apartments in Paris.

There was no legitimate reason for this. What idiots.
 
We are driving down to NY next week. I'm thinking we should give ourselves an extra hour for crossing the border and not bring any packages to mail.
Nah, we let anybody in. [emoji6]

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It's mind boggling! They can't be that incompetent can they be? Don't answer!

Could very well be intentional if you step back and look at the reluctance of calling this a terrorist act. Things that make you go hmmm...

I kind of think the landlord asked Can i go see MY place -- and in his brillance he decided to let the global media in for a party. I cannot help but think that the FBI when they saw it happening they wigged.
ONe expert on CNN said that he started trembling when he saw what was happening

This IMO was no way sanctioned by anyone in LE

bizaire -- hey I wanted to see , but my first thought was got it looks like the line waiting for a new Disney ride or a blockbuster opening!!

someone misunderstood something
 
IMO the apt. had been turned back over to the landlord. IMO it's on him for allowing the tour. If he was offered and took money beyond disgusting. Per CNN right now reporter asked Landlord if residence had been cleared. He replied yes last night.
 
I don't know about you guys............but I'm starting to get the feeling we may have a fox guarding the henhouse.

Nuff said.
 
I don't understand why their home wasn't secured and considered evidence? Something strange going on here.
 
Googling "223 rounds in stripper clips" returned this vid, showing how the clips are inserted.
[video=youtube;XUsz-ADDoxo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUsz-ADDoxo[/video] 9min. vid, can zip to 6 min mark where clips are inserted.
Many more vids avail. A wealth of info on the web.

(Sorry if too far O/T or already covered.)

That is very cool, I didn't even know those existed! I have always preferred Lula mag loaders (which are probably about as fast).
 
It's mind boggling! They can't be that incompetent can they be? Don't answer!

Could very well be intentional if you step back and look at the reluctance of calling this a terrorist act. Things that make you go hmmm...

French LE must be laughing at us it makes no sense at all glad I saw but.......

ok it sounds like the landlord was "escorted" out !
 
The condo door has been resealed by unknown men. Landlord was carted away in a law enforcement car...all per cnn
 
Just turned on ABC7 and I can't ****ing BELIEVE what I'm seeing! WTF is going on?

I know I'm late, but I'm utterly gobsmacked. What a cluster****.

Are we still calling this workplace violence? SMDH

And don't get me started on Daniel Chesley, the family lawyer: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-don-t-believe-official-account-massacre.html

No words for him. I sincerely hope those are his words and not the families, otherwise I am rapidly losing sympathy and suspicions will grow.
 
Landlord seems to be enjoying his 15 minutes :rolleyes:

CNN still awaiting presser - was supposed to start at 11:00AM PT (2:00PM ET).
 
Okay, I'm over it. I stand by my original post saying that the house was most likely cleared, LE got all the evidence they needed and anything left was not of any significance or value to their investigation.




I hope. :D
 
IMO the apt. had been turned back over to the landlord. IMO it's on him for allowing the tour. If he was offered and took money beyond disgusting. Per CNN right now reporter asked Landlord if residence had been cleared. He replied yes last night.

How is that possible? There was no finger print dust anywhere, didn't they dust for prints? How would they process a crime scene of this magnitude in a day?? It takes much longer to do the average murder scene.

What about all of the papers left there? That would be vital evidence should any co-conspirators go to trial!

Course maybe that was the whole freaking point.
 
Nope. Just walked through downtown. Two subways. Two LIRR trains.
Less presence than last week. No dogs.

They do this everytime - that is why I thought I wonder how long therpists are avail sound bite and then congress goes back on vacation


rinse repeat
 
I really want to offer prayers for safe travel to all of our fellow WebSleuthers that are travelling this holiday season. It makes me beyond sad that you have to worry and fear what should be a joyous trip. Don't let them win. This is what terror is. Being home unfortunately doesn't secure your safety anymore either. So I wish you travellers a safe. Happy. Trip.

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