Yes, but I can't say things that aren't in MSM or public eye. So.....I'm kind of stuck.
GUILTY CA - Ellorah Warner, 3 wks, Santa Clarita, 23 Jan 2015
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Yes, but I can't say things that aren't in MSM or public eye. So.....I'm kind of stuck.
Both are correct that I read too in MSM---- 30/36....for the life of me I can't find it either
Cuofrd if you want to go through the process of getting verified on WS as an insider I think you can post more, including stuff that's not in MSM as long as it doesn't hurt the investigation. For some reason I can never seem to find the link with the info on how to get verified, but hopefully someone else will help out.
My last name is not and has never actually been O'Brien. *gasp*
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I know, so many questions! I wonder if it was (for lack of a better term) a "girl thing" too. I have limited experience with all this, thank goodness, but I did once get involved in a DV situation where a (former) friend of my husband's had threatened his girlfriend and their baby. He lived close enough that he ran to our house to hide. I called the cops immediately and got the ol' "thanks for letting us know, we're too busy to deal with it right now." I was freaking out, calling everyone who knew the guy trying to figure out what to do. My husband tried to kick him out but the guy got suicidal and I said "let him stay" thinking I could turn him over to the cops in the morning, as opposed to wondering where he was. After many many hours husband finally said "fine you deal with him if you want, I'm done, going to bed." All of the women friends in our circle were calling each other back and forth all night, while the husbands got sick of his BS and washed their hands of the whole thing. I stayed up with the guy all night and took him to work project the next day figuring okay, now they'll arrest him. Nope, cops were apparently still too busy. I can see the women maybe banding together and doing what they could to get MW to the police station, even if the husband was thinking "screw this." (I'm not saying he was, I really have no idea, but just a theory based on my admittedly very limited experience.)
I've already emailed for the process of being verified on WS as an insider.
Thank you thank you!! I'm saving the link this time.
Oh that's great, thank you for doing that! I think you'll be able to share a lot more once you're verified, and I look forward to hearing what you can tell us.
I don't even know what justice means in this case, exactly, but I so badly want to see justice for Ellorah.
Thank the lovely voters of Calif for AB109 and letting MW out early....
http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/132341/
Also, same article, he was arrested Feb 2014 for violating parole.
In jail (for violating terms of probation) June (cont substance) and July (dismantle GPS bracelet) 2014. Since baby E was 19 days old on 1/25.... I'm assuming this is mid-term pregnancy?
At the end of the article it states: Released on probation in 2013, Warner violated the terms of that probation three times last year
I'm wondering if he was promised something at the sheriffs department and that's why he led them to the Nissan truck?
http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/132341/
Also, same article, he was arrested Feb 2014 for violating parole.
In jail (for violating terms of probation) June (cont substance) and July (dismantle GPS bracelet) 2014. Since baby E was 19 days old on 1/25.... I'm assuming this is mid-term pregnancy?
At the end of the article it states: Released on probation in 2013, Warner violated the terms of that probation three times last year
I'm wondering if he was promised something at the sheriffs department and that's why he led them to the Nissan truck?
Just to defend at least some CA voters... I did NOT vote for this. They tried to make it sound like only non-violent people would be released, but it wasn't true and if you actually read it, that was fairly obvious. The CA prisons are incredibly over-crowded and I think instead of building more they came up with this "bill" to release the so-called "non-violent" offenders.
I really think he was given some kind of deal or at least preliminary deal at the sheriff's office. As long as he finally stays in prison for life I don't really care, if it helped with finding Ellorah so quickly. Depending on who that truck belonged to, she could've been abandoned there for a really long time before she was found. It's a tiny, tiny comfort in a case that has very little comfort, but the people who loved Ellorah know where she is. I honestly can't imagine healing from this, but I hope that finding her so quickly does help them heal.
I don't want to pay for this rat bas-- to rot in prison for the rest of his life!!! HE-- NO!!! I want him to be looking over his shoulder for a while, yes. Fearing for what is going to happen next, yes. Suffer, yes. But ultimately, I do not want to have the taxpayers to have to, once again, take on this leach of society that has no regard for humanity. We've already spent, and will be spending, far too much money on MW.
And heaven help me if there's an insanity plea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most people can tell when you're carrying a baby wrapped in a blanket. He was described as carrying a "bundle". Makes me believe she was already dead at that point. She was probably completely wrapped and casually being carried....like he had no concern for how she was being carried. A first time new parent is usually overly sensitive about how the baby's neck is being supported. If she was already gone, there's no need to have any concern for her well-being.
Oh believe me, neither do I! But since the death penalty in CA is basically a joke and we'll be paying for him to be in prison either way, I'd rather have Ellorah's loved ones know where she is, and I'd rather not have him on death row with a gazillion automatic appeals. The closer to the general population the better, IMO. I think he'll be doing more looking over his shoulder in fear there than he would be on death row.
I'm with you on the insanity plea. I may just lose it myself if that happens.
That it is, Katydid. It makes me really angry. I think I first saw "truth in sentencing" referenced here and boy do I believe in that. When I hear someone is sentenced to 10 years I generally expect that to mean a year or maybe 18 months, tops. Until I looked into it more I never understood why someone would need 2 or 3 life sentences plus 100 years. It's awful, IMO.
My ex took amphetamines every weekend he was high from Friday until Monday morning. I hadn't a clue he told me he drank vodka and energy drinks and that's why he didn't sleep. I was clueless until I caught him using. Then everything fell into place. Boy did I feel stupid.
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Canada is a joke too , we have ppl only doing 3-4 years for murder
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Finally got caught up here and I have to ask how it matters what mom's real name is? I don't mean that to be snarky or anything just wondering if it DOES matter and have something critical to do with the crime?
Also, I never read anywhere they walked to the police station, I read that they walked into the police station, and had got a ride from someone.
Also, I never read anywhere they walked to the police station, I read that they walked into the police station, and had got a ride from someone.