CA - Emma Barker, 18 mos, suffocated, Lancaster, 18 March 2009 #1

[Lovejac]

Found this comment, http://www.examiner.com/a-1917094~Mom_says_LA_toddler_found_dead_not_kidnap_victim.html

4:24 PM MST on Fri., Mar. 20, 2009 re: "Mom says LA toddler found dead not kidnap victim"

Examiner Reader said:
The mom used drugs in the past, nothing makes sense, but no matter how scare you are there is no reason to dump your daughter like anywhere. May God give the family peace and forgive the Mom. I have a baby and no matter how scare you are, the love you feel for your baby won't let you an act like that.

This isn't the first reference I've read regarding possible drug use.

 

[Lovejac]

Wonder is the grandfather works for the school district?

Gary Barker
Region 12 ESC
gbarker@esc12.net
254.297.1107

found this here, http://www.lancasterisd.org/sections/departments/financial_services/documents/LISDBudget08-09.pdf

on page 2.

I'll be back to sleuth after I feed my beastie boys!

ETA: I just found what street the family lives on, I'll just post the link because I don't want to post it. http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=151535&threadid=2031075

Thursday night a large group of media had gathered outside the family home in the ***** block of West Vintage Street, Lancaster.

 

[Bobbisangel]

How can they NOT KNOW what happened to this baby? If they couldn't tell by looking at her body then they should have been able to tell when they did an autopsy. If she gave her drugs or something wouldn't that show in the labs? Are they back yet?

If she hasn't told LE what kind of accident it was then she should be locked up until they find out. She says it was an accident so she has to know what happened. Maybe she told them and they are trying to prove or disprove what she said.

Why haven't they at least charged her for throwing her baby away? If that was one of us we would have been sitting in jail the first day! People don't just throw their dead baby away and then are sent on home. Just what is the deal here???? It is unbelievable.

 

[Saucey]

Hi Saucey,

Do you know for a fact that Brendon is still her BF? Is this Mr NASCAR? For some reason, I dont get the feeling they are still together from some of his pics (unless theyre old)- I saw pics of Stacey on the front page, but there are other girls there also. :waitasec:

Im SOOO frustrated with this case- Interesting thing- Out of the list of frinds that Chezire made (Thank you for that :blowkiss, not one person besides Nick says anything in memorium to sweet Emma Leigh.

WHERE IS LAPD?????? LASD?????? I live sooo close, I could reach out and slap her (ok, 2 towns away)~ I wish there was someway I could freaking arrest her!! :furious::furious:

No Chico I don't know it for a fact, but since you mentioned it I went and looked at her myspace again and her status says single now. Last week when Lovejac mentioned that Brendon's status said single, I checked Stacey's and I believe it said 'in a relationship'. Can anyone else confirm this?
Well anyway I think you are right, they are probably not together now. He has had the pics of other girls on his page since the first day this case was reported though, and yes he is Mr. Nascar
I agree with everyone who says she must know someone. There is SOME reason there has been no arrest and we haven't heard anything more about this case. Chico, I wish you could arrest her too. :behindbar

 

[Indianagirl]

Her myspace page said "single" last week. I remember b/c I thought it was odd that they both had "single" on their pages, but her pictures gave me the impression they were in a relationship.

 

[Jolynna]

Her myspace page said "single" last week. I remember b/c I thought it was odd that they both had "single" on their pages, but her pictures gave me the impression they were in a relationship.

She writes about how she can't wait for Nascar and then there are pictures of the Nascar race. I'm not sure how many other dates they had?

 

[Indianagirl]

She writes about how she can't wait for Nascar and then there are pictures of the Nascar race. I'm not sure how many other dates they had?

Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe it was never serious or they no longer date? I just wonder why she still has pics up of them kissing and stuff? Usually people take down those type of pics when the break up.

 

[LCoastMom]

She writes about how she can't wait for Nascar and then there are pictures of the Nascar race. I'm not sure how many other dates they had?

I believe he was her New Year's Eve date also. (Best New Year's Kiss yet or something to this effect.)

I thought it was odd that his MySpace Children? said undecided rather than someday like most young people.

 

[LCoastMom]

Guess so. There is another post from today.

COLIN DUBEL
Apr 1 2009 1:14 PM

Hey man it was good seeing you the other night.. i hope youre getting through this well.
call me up soon man

Sara
Mar 31 2009 2:22 AM

thanks nick! thanks for coming saturday night i had SO much fun!


[[brandi]]
Mar 30 2009 3:43 PM

hey nick!
I hope you are doing well....
I miss ya bud, havent seen you guys in a while =[
that definitely needs to change!

hope you have a good day!!!!!
ttyl
CandASS♥
Mar 30 2009 12:38 AM

it was nice seeing you last night!

I don't know what he did to get these comments but her brother hasn't signed in to his acct since mid March... Really makes ya wonder where her head is at.

 

[Tammie63]

Thanks Lovejac for pointing out the address. I was looking for it the other day. Just out of curiousity/nosiness/sleuthiness I am going to try to drive by tomorrow.

I have wrote to the local paper in general and to the reporters that have written articles on baby Emma but as of tonight none of them have bothered to reply.
I dont understand the hush hush...

 

[Lovejac]

Thanks Lovejac for pointing out the address. I was looking for it the other day. Just out of curiousity/nosiness/sleuthiness I am going to try to drive by tomorrow.

I have wrote to the local paper in general and to the reporters that have written articles on baby Emma but as of tonight none of them have bothered to reply.
I dont understand the hush hush...

ITA! That's why I'm trying to find out what Emma's grandparents do for work. I started looking for Gary but haven't been able to find much about his employment . So far, he's either a real estate agent or works for Lancaster School District. I wish I had a middle initial.

Maybe I'll start fresh in the morning.

ETA: one article said that the grandmother worked at night. I wonder if she's a nurse, also, the brother, Nick, is enrolled in nursing school. Just a thought. There HAS to be a reason why this is being kept on the down low.:waitasec:

 

[Lovejac]

some interesting new comments found here......http://www.examiner.com/x-2052-Sher...rls-body-on-roadside-fearing-criminal-charges

Anonymous says:
I too knew stacey from Countrywide. She sat very close to me and we would talk at least once daily. We would both talk to eachother about our daughters and I could definatly tell she loved Emma very much. Stacey was very friendly to me and others that sat in our area. I think everyone would agree she seemed very much In love with that little girl. While I don't agree with the events that took place after Emmad death, I do feel we should not judge stacey and accuse her of the death. The only person who knows the truth at this point is Stacey. I just hope that she had nothing to do with it. And I pray for her and her family during this difficult time.
March 27, 9:24 PM

sharon says:
By the way; let me agree with Countrywide Employee on one thing; I too, am a mother and I do agree that it doesn't make sense NOT to call 911 if something tragic and accidental happens to one of our children. I don't want to give the impression that I agree with what Stacey did or how she reacted immediately following Emma's death. But I do believe that none of us really can say with 100% positivity what we would do in any given tramatic situation. We'd like to believe we know how we'd react, but sometimes it doesn't always end up like that. It's because of this that I have chosen not to judge Stacey as a "baby killer". I also want to clarify that I believe that Stacey was involved with Emma's death. I don't think there's any denying that. But I can't help but think it had to be a strange, tragic accident and NOT something malicious or murderous. I'm so curious to find out what the accident was and why the police are withholding the nature of the accident from the public. If Stacey "came clean" with them, as the papers are saying she did, wouldn't they have arrested her after her "confession" if they believed it was truly murder? One final thought and then I promise I'm done for now. . .everybody who new Emma knew her as a baby who was ALWAYS SMILING. If Emma was not well loved, well treated, and in a stable environment, I believe that would have been recognized through her behavior and she would not have been such a happy, lovable, smiley, playful little child. Hopefully some more facts will come out soon so we can all stop speculating and then, my hope is that Stacey and her family can get through their mourning process in peace and without all this judgement and criticism.
March 26, 10:31 AM

sharon says:
I agree with you, Ashley. And to the Countrywide Employee. . .I used to work with Stacey at Countrywide as well. She WAS very quiet. There is no secret that she wasn't overly sociable. In fact, somebody recently asked me "who did Stacey hang around with" and I had to stop and think about it until I relialized that I never actually saw Stacey "hang around" with anybody. But I can also tell you that everybody at Countrywide does not agree with what you said about her. She was quiet but she was very friendly and pleasant to those she chose to speak to. Stacey would go out of her way to come to my office and show me the newest pictures of Emma. She would talk about what she was going to do with Emma that weekend, her concerns that Emma have a strong male role model in her life, what Emma liked most at Christmas, etc. Stacey often expressed thanks that her father and brothers were in Emma's life because she was grateful for the male role models that provided Emma since Emma's father was not interested in being involved. I am not saying Stacey didn't do it. I can't say that because I wasn't there when Emma died...but neither were you, which means YOU can't say she DID do it, nor can you justifiably say that she deserves "the whole library" to be thrown at her. It's clear that you and the Countrywide employees you hang around with did not know Stacey well..even if you did watch her daugher on occasion. Even I can't claim her to be a "good friend", but I can say that what I saw in her was not "crazy". If you did see something that you truly considered "crazy" or unstable, you should have done the right thing by protecting Emma and calling the cops. Obviously, you didn't think Stacey was that crazy or I would hope that you would have taken the necessary steps to protect Emma.
March 26, 10:04 AM

March 24, 11:34 PM
A Countrywide Employee says:
I knew this girl personally, I worked with her and even babysat for her a couple of times. Stacey Barker exhibited signs of a very disturbed young woman who was either using drugs or perhaps mentally unstable. She acted very strange disconnected and very unfriendly. She was completely unsociable and excluded herself from other coworkers. She never smiled and always seemed to be "somewhere else." When the news came out that her baby was abducted, the first thing we all said was "She did it. That crazy tweaker did it." As a mother, if anything were to happen to my child, the FIRST thing I would do is call 911. Scared or not, if you didn't do anything there is no reason not to call the cops. I believe she IS crazy, and its only a matter of time till we find out what REALLY to happend with, as we call her, "Crazy Stacey Barker." And serriously, i hope she gets the book thrown at her. Hell, I hope they they throw the whole library at her. She deserves whatever thaey give her and I hope to god the DA prossecutes her to the fullest extent of the law. But thats just me.
March 24, 7:05 PM

sharon says:
I know Stacey Barker and I know how much she loved her daughter. We chatted frequently and 90% of our conversations circled around Emma. Stacey glowed when she talked about Emma and she always had a new picture of her. We talked about Emma's future and I can tell you that Stacey NEVER expressed any resentment or lack of love for her daugher. Her daughter was such a gift to her and all who new Stacey could see that. I am SO glad that there is a website where people (you) are recognizing that there MUST be more to this story. The media and those who don't know Stacey are so quick to jump on the fact that she's "crazy" or that she was a bad mom or that she is an evil person. She is none of those things. The Stacey I know is a kind, soft-hearted woman who truly cherished her beautiful daughter.
March 24, 4:09 PM

 

[Chicogirl36]

I don't know what he did to get these comments but her brother hasn't signed in to his acct since mid March... Really makes ya wonder where her head is at.

Interesting point missmybaby! I also noticed the same thing- Especially after she posted that odd "ode" to God calling babies to Heaven- IMHO, that saying sounds like something a Hallmark 'CLASSIC' (yes, pun inteneded..hehe) sympathy greeting card would say- She makes me ill.

Being the mother of teens with MS pages, and between checking them out here and checking my children's friends, I feel that her bro is a very good kid not into drugs (at least posted), and doing his thing by attending nursing school. After questioning several of their friends that I have known for years, yet seen obscene MS pages, I asked WHY??? Most kids these days, have crazy, sexual, violent, and graphic images set out to "shock" you and be the most outrageous possible. Thankfully, I have taught my kids that your page is a reflection of you and if a stranger was to look at their page, I told them to think about what that first impression tells. I am proud to report they listened and have appropriate sites.

I think it also speaks volumes as to what lind of a kid he is to see his memorium to Baby Emma on his page and his obvious greif- I have heard/seen more emotion come out of him and their parents, than Stacey alone.

We are coming into April already and almost the 1 month mark since her death. I dont recall something like this happening in this area, but then again, I wasnt reading WS back then either :wink:

I wonder how much of the public has spoken out against this? I dont live where Stacey does as she was found in Antelope Valley (town of Lancaster), but I live in LA Co (where Emma was found) and there is NOTHING in the Valley Times on this poor baby. Where is the public outrage? Tammie63 and I cant do it alone..lol :blowkiss:

 

[Tammie63]

Well thought I would see if there was anything being said at the salon I do business with... usually a good source for at least gossip and rumor. Nobody there knew anything other then one girl said that they would not know anything on cause of death for at least 6 weeks, that she heard they are waiting on test. What test she did not know maybe some of you might be able to speculate???

Now I am targeting...lol... my neighbor who's son in law is a deputy. If I can catch her outside and casually bring it up she might know something.. as long as I don't act to interested then she clams up.

My daughter will be home this weekend from school and she has a friend that is a deputy.... will see where that might lead us also.

I just want to know what happened to this precious baby and why no charges.

 

[Tammie63]

ITA! That's why I'm trying to find out what Emma's grandparents do for work. I started looking for Gary but haven't been able to find much about his employment . So far, he's either a real estate agent or works for Lancaster School District. I wish I had a middle initial.

Maybe I'll start fresh in the morning.

ETA: one article said that the grandmother worked at night. I wonder if she's a nurse, also, the brother, Nick, is enrolled in nursing school. Just a thought. There HAS to be a reason why this is being kept on the down low.:waitasec:

You could possible be on to something, concerning the grandfather working for the school district. I was thinking about Stacy attending QuartzHill High School and from the look of the address you found, this would not be the High School for her school district. QHHS, is one of the preferred if not the best public high school in the area. Since it is the high school she attended I am thinking perhaps her father was able to pull some strings.
Just a thought....
She attended around the time my two oldest went there... now if I can get them home from school this weekend maybe some of their friends will have heard something.

 

[LCoastMom]

My kids went to HS in Vta Co, unlike elementary school where we had to get permission for them to attend school out of the neighborhood/district. They could go to whatever HS they wanted to as long as they had transportation. All 3 started at the same sch but they all graduated from different schools and none from the school they started in!

My ds-i-l works for LAPD, he's working in LA now but his last assignment was in area where the family lives. Next time I talk to my dd I'll see what she knows and see what she can find out.

I had a friend who's gbaby had a progressive genetic disorder, but the baby died mos ahead of when anyone could have foreseen, it took 5 or 6 mos before they finally got the coroners report. I hope that doesn't happen again. Unless it is a common chemical or the mom talks it could be some time.

All of the obvious things, physical abuse, hyperthermia, drowning, choking, poisons (the type that do immediate damage like bleach) and SBS; would have been found by the coroner.

Unless she died from natural causes, overdose is about all that is left. It would also explain the mom being afraid of prosecution. (short of the mom actually smothering the baby with a pillow while she was medicated) There are usually signs like bites on the tongue, bruises on the lips or other signs of a struggle.

 

[LCoastMom]

We are coming into April already and almost the 1 month mark since her death. I dont recall something like this happening in this area, but then again, I wasnt reading WS back then either :wink:

I wonder how much of the public has spoken out against this? I dont live where Stacey does as she was found in Antelope Valley (town of Lancaster), but I live in LA Co (where Emma was found) and there is NOTHING in the Valley Times on this poor baby. Where is the public outrage? Tammie63 and I cant do it alone..lol :blowkiss:

I agree, I wish I was still in So CAlif, I don't understand the lack of public outcry.

Hopefully I can get something out of my ds-i-l.

 

[impatientredhead]

My kids went to HS in Vta Co, unlike elementary school where we had to get permission for them to attend school out of the neighborhood/district. They could go to whatever HS they wanted to as long as they had transportation. All 3 started at the same sch but they all graduated from different schools and none from the school they started in!

My ds-i-l works for LAPD, he's working in LA now but his last assignment was in area where the family lives. Next time I talk to my dd I'll see what she knows and see what she can find out.

I had a friend who's gbaby had a progressive genetic disorder, but the baby died mos ahead of when anyone could have foreseen, it took 5 or 6 mos before they finally got the coroners report. I hope that doesn't happen again. Unless it is a common chemical or the mom talks it could be some time.

All of the obvious things, physical abuse, hyperthermia, drowning, choking, poisons (the type that do immediate damage like bleach) and SBS; would have been found by the coroner.

Unless she died from natural causes, overdose is about all that is left. It would also explain the mom being afraid of prosecution. (short of the mom actually smothering the baby with a pillow while she was medicated) There are usually signs like bites on the tongue, bruises on the lips or other signs of a struggle.

It has to be poison or an over dose of some sort. Even suffocation/smothering with a pillow would be visible to the coronor with the body being recovered so quickly. They can see the ruptured blood vessels in the eyes in those cases.

 

[InMyDreams]

Nothing?? I keep coming back to see if there's any new updates and am dissappointed every time.

Odd thing too, is that KTLA still has the photos of little Emma on the front page of their local news site. But no updates....

 

[Chicogirl36]

Nothing?? I keep coming back to see if there's any new updates and am dissappointed every time.

Odd thing too, is that KTLA still has the photos of little Emma on the front page of their local news site. But no updates....

In MY Dreams, I click on that link EVERY morning in hopes they updated her story-they did add a couple pics of her smiling- She truly was a VERY happy baby- Imagine the look on her face as Stacey did what ever she did to her- I hope that look haunts her forever!!!

If you go to the local news section, her story is at the bottom of a list of approx 50 news stories. I see about 10 KTLA choppers go over my house chasing some idiot on the freeway, but nothing on a young twit that killed and/or DUMPED her precious child in a run-down, gang-infested area of the San Fernando Valley!! I bet SHE wouldnt walk on that street alone~ How dare she leave precious Emma Leigh there to rot!!! :furious::furious::furious: