By family or LE?
I'm not surprised. Anything with our armed forces ends up being convoluted. They may have told him not to say anything but then released a public statement that he was free to grant interviews and leave it up to him to refuse because he was ordered to. Otherwise they would be the ones refusing the requests instead of him, and that would have looked like a cover up. Am I making sense? I've been up all night and haven't been to bed yet, I'm delirious. :shame:
Just curious what you find disturbing about it?
From Locate Erin:
"....we are continuing to only ask for assistance in the investigation into Erin's disappearance from local law enforcement. They are working ceaselessly to find Erin and have brought in others they believe are best qualified to assist in the investigation and search. If you want to offer any services in the case or if you have any information regarding Erin's disappearance, please contact the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department directly at 909-884-0156. Otherwise, we ask that everyone continue to respect our wishes that the ongoing, active investigation that the Sheriff's Department is leading be left undisturbed by the public's interference. Thank you all for the support."
And in other news.......
Mr. Garcia has been asked to withdraw from the search.
Well, either the Army is lying, or they really did say these things to JC officially but then said something else unofficially, or JC had every opportunity to speak to the media. In any of these three cases, the implications are deeply disturbing.
Most disturbing of which would be JC willingly not saying anything at all. It is absolutely unconscionable for a husband to say nothing when his wife goes missing. Even Hannibal Lecter would have said something if his wife was missing for this long.
I just barely believed him not saying anything because the army told him not to. What made that make some sense was the fact that he cared so much more about the army than he did for his wife, that he dragged her half way across the country to the middle of a sparse and scorching desert away from her friends, family and beloved animals, just to advance his marine career.
To say nothing when you are fully able to, that level of uncaring for your wife, no matter what she did, is unfathomable to me.
MW, frankly, I'm a little surprised at your reaction to Jonathan's silence given your statements in post #684 regarding IM. Why should you expect so much from someone who barely knew her, who actually managed to say something about Erin. Yet be content with so little, in fact absolutely nothing, from the person who professed to love her so much that he vowed to spend the rest of his life with her.
My guess is they "asked" JC not to comment on the situation. Even though they may not be legally tell him he can not speak of it, if your CO "ask or request" you to remain silent, as a Marine you are going to honor that request! Also if JC plans to remain in the Marines, not complying would, not might, hurt he career. I also believe the military is as responsible as LE for the lack of information being released. This is a major PR problem for both. Eight years service and a Vietnam vet. I realize the military has changed over time, but not that much as to not to attempt damage control. Hope I am wrong here. Peace to all and I hope this weekend is a success!
BBM
That's laughable!!!
First of all, the Sheriff's Department refuses to state where they are searching or where they plan to search - and if someone stumbles upon it the day of the search, they will OBVIOUSLY be kept out of there by LE. How the #$%* are people supposed to stay out of area if they aren't told where the area is located???
Second, from what LE has stated about the areas they already searched, they are public property. The only way to keep people out of public property - especially JTNP which is a tourist attraction - is to completely close the areas to the public. That is something only LE can do, and clearly they haven't done so. So realistically, this statement can never be carried out, unless LE makes the statement publicly and puts the resources into the closing the areas.
Sorry for the rant, but I don't live in Kooksville, so this lack of critical thinking skills in Erin's family is annoying. But, yes, if they have asked Bill Garcia to stay out of it I think he should oblige them out of respect for Erin. However, the choice is entirely his. Frankly, If LE doesn't find Erin, I would prefer a private detective would do so, because the hikers or whatever who usually discover these things don't realize what it is until they've compromised the area far more than a private detective would.
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Well, either the Army is lying, or they really did say these things to JC officially but then said something else unofficially, or JC had every opportunity to speak to the media. In any of these three cases, the implications are deeply disturbing.
Most disturbing of which would be JC willingly not saying anything at all. It is absolutely unconscionable for a husband to say nothing when his wife goes missing. Even Hannibal Lecter would have said something if his wife was missing for this long.
I just barely believed him not saying anything because the army told him not to. What made that make some sense was the fact that he cared so much more about the army than he did for his wife, that he dragged her half way across the country to the middle of a sparse and scorching desert away from her friends, family and beloved animals, just to advance his marine career.
To say nothing when you are fully able to, that level of uncaring for your wife, no matter what she did, is unfathomable to me.
MW, frankly, I'm a little surprised at your reaction to Jonathan's silence given your statements in post #684 regarding IM. Why should you expect so much from someone who barely knew her, who actually managed to say something about Erin. Yet be content with so little, in fact absolutely nothing, from the person who professed to love her so much that he vowed to spend the rest of his life with her.
Family made the request. He complied.
BBM
That's laughable!!!
First of all, the Sheriff's Department refuses to state where they are searching or where they plan to search - and if someone stumbles upon it the day of the search, they will OBVIOUSLY be kept out of there by LE. How the #$%* are people supposed to stay out of area if they aren't told where the area is located???
Second, from what LE has stated about the areas they already searched, they are public property. The only way to keep people out of public property - especially JTNP which is a tourist attraction - is to completely close the areas to the public. That is something only LE can do, and clearly they haven't done so. So realistically, this statement can never be carried out, unless LE makes the statement publicly and puts the resources into the closing the areas.
Sorry for the rant, but I don't live in Kooksville, so this lack of critical thinking skills in Erin's family is annoying. But, yes, if they have asked Bill Garcia to stay out of it I think he should oblige them out of respect for Erin. However, the choice is entirely his. Frankly, If LE doesn't find Erin, I would prefer a private detective would do so, because the hikers or whatever who usually discover these things don't realize what it is until they've compromised the area far more than a private detective would.
Shadetree, Thank you for your service during that particularly difficult time in our nation's history. My son's been in the Army 10 years, with three tours in the Middle East, and he always says how much respect he has for Vietnam Vets. He will stop and chat with any of you whenever he can because he appreciates so much what you went through. Our entire family does. We are honored to have you with us!
Just to clarify...
By saying, "He compiled," do you mean Mr. Garcia is not going to search for Erin after all?
Most disturbing of which would be JC willingly not saying anything at all. It is absolutely unconscionable for a husband to say nothing when his wife goes missing. Even Hannibal Lecter would have said something if his wife was missing for this long.
I just barely believed him not saying anything because the army told him not to. What made that make some sense was the fact that he cared so much more about the army than he did for his wife, that he dragged her half way across the country to the middle of a sparse and scorching desert away from her friends, family and beloved animals, just to advance his marine career.
To say nothing when you are fully able to, that level of uncaring for your wife, no matter what she did, is unfathomable to me.
BBM
That's laughable!!!
First of all, the Sheriff's Department refuses to state where they are searching or where they plan to search - and if someone stumbles upon it the day of the search, they will OBVIOUSLY be kept out of there by LE. How the #$%* are people supposed to stay out of area if they aren't told where the area is located???
Second, from what LE has stated about the areas they already searched, they are public property. The only way to keep people out of public property - especially JTNP which is a tourist attraction - is to completely close the areas to the public. That is something only LE can do, and clearly they haven't done so. So realistically, this statement can never be carried out, unless LE makes the statement publicly and puts the resources into the closing the areas.
Sorry for the rant, but I don't live in Kooksville, so this lack of critical thinking skills in Erin's family is annoying. But, yes, if they have asked Bill Garcia to stay out of it I think he should oblige them out of respect for Erin. However, the choice is entirely his. Frankly, If LE doesn't find Erin, I would prefer a private detective would do so, because the hikers or whatever who usually discover these things don't realize what it is until they've compromised the area far more than a private detective would.
Correct. He was going back to San Diego.
Heck, he could even be helping the investigation right now by begging the Sheriff's to release more information to the public to get more sightings and possibly tack down a search location. Is his army career really worth all this?
excellent question which the owner needs to answer. She just does not seem concerned at all for Erin and this concerns me greatly. Esp since she was helping the Lees. All wells cisterns and esp any storage facilities must be put on alert and checked. Figs, they did a personal move they didn't use the military, which is free. Did they have a storage facility? So many questions, and no movement in this case.Are there wells on or near that horse ranch?