Found Deceased CA - Fang Jin, 47, flew to LA from China, train to Palm Springs, Morongo Basin, 21 Jul 2023, w/ John Root Fitzpatrick, 55, (fnd dec.), 30 Jul ‘23 #2

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If we suppose this is a case of misadventure and everything between the two was honky dory -
He would never leave her out there alone. A Seal would pick her up and they would have been found together. If she wandered away exploring and didn’t respond to his shouts, he might have gone back to the truck to try and drive to find her.

It will be interesting if her phone is in the truck and the info is not being released. If she had her phone with her for photo use, we won't know until Fang is found.
This is a good point. He may have attempted to carry her, but eventually, just like those with hypothermia, people with hyperthermia become disoriented weak and truly it becomes about survival. And to survive one must get help. Navy Seals are also human as well and inhospitable terrain/weather can impact anyone.
 
At this moment this is our opinion as well
... what happened on 21st 22.30pm since Fitzpatrick did enter Marine base or officially not or yes ? Alot of strange things happened ... because they never drove by night and would go camping that nigh without taking her pasportt and any of her luggage ?????
I can absolutely see leaving luggage in a secure spot when going on day trips. She would pack a few essentials for an overnight, but unless they were staying in hotels, leaving luggage in a vehicle when going for day trips can result in theft and smash and grabs. If they were walking into fairly remote places to camp, carrying all that luggage would be impossible. I can see why it was left. And even some valuables. You don't need a ton of money or electronics to camp or hike.


What I mean is—she has been gone a long time now, and if it was meant to be a long extended trip like this, then yes, I’d expect she would have packed more belongings and take her passport with her. JMO

As a foreigner in another country, I may be wrong, but I thought it is advised you carry your passport with you. I was in Japan this summer (I’m American), I read I should do this, so I did.

I also have been advised to always carry my passport on me in foreign countries. Definitely. They could have also thought the risk of losing it or getting it damaged when hiking, camping, and in a rural area outweighed the potential that she would need identification.
 
I think it is a possibility.

Her phone could have an innocent explanation also. Possibly a charger issue? Would she be able to get a charger for her phone in the US? Maybe the charger was left behind accidently and she couldn't charge it back up? Something awful happens in that next day or so and his phone last pings before it dies. I think knowing what he did and what his phone did from the 22-24 would be the key to most of those questions.

I agree. depending on the age and type of phone, how many apps, etc one phone could drain a lot faster. He looked like he had a newer iPhone, so maybe his would last longer too.
 
I think it is a possibility.

Her phone could have an innocent explanation also. Possibly a charger issue? Would she be able to get a charger for her phone in the US? Maybe the charger was left behind accidently and she couldn't charge it back up? Something awful happens in that next day or so and his phone last pings before it dies. I think knowing what he did and what his phone did from the 22-24 would be the key to most of those questions.
I wonder if LE has the phone at this point in time.
 
Fang’s 3 full suitcases were in JRF’s trailer home, as was her cash and passport.

Would you leave your money and passport in a trailer while going out ?
JRF"s home is a mobile home, in an established mobile home park. I'm sure the residents there don't pack up their belongings every time they run an errand or go out of town. Like everyone else, they leave valuables locked up at home and hope their neighbors keep an eye out. Just to be clear, the mobile home can't be hooked up to a truck and simply be towed like a camper trailer, and it is hooked up to utilities.
 
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Would you leave your money and passport in a trailer while going out ?

Yes. If in this scenario "trailer" means something at least as secure as an AirBnb. Frankly, most mobile homes are safer than AirBnb's, but people leave their money and passports in them all the time. Sometimes in a safe.

Do you do a lot of international travel? What do you do?

Because it's often safer to leave hidden in one's hotel/dwelling/AirBnb than to take with (not so much in California, but most people who travel internationally know this).

No one steals a passport unless they can get other supporting documents (IMO). And it's easier to hide cash in a mobile home/tiny apartment less sf than a mobile home than to carry it on one's person.

Esp if one is female. Have been there.

IMO.
 
JRF"s home is a mobile home, in an established mobile home park. I'm sure the residents there don't pack up their belongings every time they run an errand or go out of town. Like everyone else, they leave valuables locked up at home and hope their neighbors keep an eye out. Just to be clear, the mobile home can't be hooked up to a truck and simply be towed like a camper trailer, and it is hooked up to utilities.
Thank you. Understood.
I explained my thinking above in my reply to @espirtu pampa above in post #244.
 
Could they both be victims of foul play? Someone close enough to know of their relationship and their general plans?

I'm actually leaving now now to accident. Left her phone and valuables ay home because they'd have his phone. Leave rarly in the day, rugged hike... an unforeseen delay can become a catastrophe all too quickly...

jmo
Wait, time out, am I missing something? FJ’s phone? The same device that transmitted her last contact with loved ones late on July 21? The erratic, in-motion video so unlike her galleries of desert landscapes? Her last contact with the outside world, that phone was discovered in JF’s trailer?
I only see passport, cash and valuables. The phone would definitely pique my curiosity. Passport (visa not needed to enter Riverside County from San Bernado), cash (the vastness of the Mojave, sometimes you’re lucky to find a place to spend it), the valuables (who wants to schlep three suitcases in n out of the cab every stop?), absolutely leave behind! Even the seediest of hotels, there’s always a spot. Besides, most ex-military guys I know are pretty good about security (gun cabinet standard).
The phone is also missing, right?
 
We also do not understand why it has been found by police in Johns trailerhome together with 3 full luggages of her and cash money

I'm sorry I missed this post of yours. How long have you known this? Is it the SBCSO that communicated this? (It's important for various reasons).

Neither Fang nor John returned to the home, though. And frankly, I would have left my stuff at the motor home, if venturing out onto the desert. Morongo Valley is pretty well-policed. The other areas they went to, not as much. I would leave all that stuff in my home, not take it out toward Salton Sea or Thermal. That's just me, of course, but I am sincerely happy that apparently police went into the mobile home.

I just wish I had a MSM thing to post about it. I probably missed it. Please help.
 
JRF"s home is a mobile home, in an established mobile home park. I'm sure the residents there don't pack up their belongings every time they run an errand or go out of town. Like everyone else, they leave valuables locked up at home and hope their neighbors keep an eye out. Just to be clear, the mobile home can't be hooked up to a truck and simply be towed like a camper trailer, and it is hooked up to utilities.

EXACTLY. Thank you. JRF's home was the safest place for those items, IMO. (and in my neighborhood too and lots of people agree with me, most of them very security-minded).

We leave our valuables in a safer place than a truck. Always. ALWAYS.

IMO.
 
Wait, time out, am I missing something? FJ’s phone? The same device that transmitted her last contact with loved ones late on July 21? The erratic, in-motion video so unlike her galleries of desert landscapes? Her last contact with the outside world, that phone was discovered in JF’s trailer?
I only see passport, cash and valuables. The phone would definitely pique my curiosity. Passport (visa not needed to enter Riverside County from San Bernado), cash (the vastness of the Mojave, sometimes you’re lucky to find a place to spend it), the valuables (who wants to schlep three suitcases in n out of the cab every stop?), absolutely leave behind! Even the seediest of hotels, there’s always a spot. Besides, most ex-military guys I know are pretty good about security (gun cabinet standard).
The phone is also missing, right?
There's no indication the phone's been found.

I think the speculation about the phone that I've read, is more about reasons she might have been unable to use it, even though she may have had it and been with JRF when his phone last pinged.

JMO
 
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From the article in the San Diego Union Tribune -

"Hoss said he reported his friend missing when Fitzpatrick didn’t return from an extended camping trip to the desert state park."

- So DH reported JRF missing on July 30th, so when did DH expect JRF to return from this "extended camping trip to the desert state park" ?

-Also, DH seems to know a lot about the comings and goings of JRF and also Fang Jin, although he doesn't report her missing as well? (Maybe because at that point the family had already reported her missing.) But it did strike me as odd that DH doesn't say that he is concerned about her when he is interviewed by the media.

Also, I agree that it is odd to head out for an extending camping trip at night, but it also may have been cooler to drive at night after several very hot days of visting various sites. On the other hand, though, how would you pick your campsite and set up, etc. in the dark once you arrived at the state park.
 
On another topic:

I do not think JFR was a long term resident of the area. A public records search shows he had lived until fairly recently in Anaheim, and before that, Virginia. He had two other brief stays on the edge of the desert communities - but I don't think he was in Morongo/Indian Wells area for more than a year (probably less).
RSBM
JRF made a rather rude introduction to his Morongo community with the first of four arrests, amounting to a dozen charges, and sandwiched around a divorce in LA County, in Feb ‘19, over a three-year crime spree.
(These have been previously documented on thread#1, posts#174,217,973).
The initial arrest of the ‘Morongo Valley’ man was the felony assault (kicking, choking, concussed/ruptured ear drum) of the boyfriend of the woman he intended to deliver food to.
A vandalism arrest followed but it was not until an April ‘21 DUI, with enhancements, charge that the former SEAL, wallowing in the depths, drew the attention of the Veterans Treatment Court (VTC).
The VTC offers ‘alternatives to cases that address underlying substance abuse and mental health issues’. The alternate court also cautions: ‘treatment courts are very involved and can be very intense’ but also advises: ‘Rules are based on performance…the Judge rewards progress and penalizes noncompliance.’
The Judge was very impressed. Apparently JRF functioned well—much like his exemplary military career—in structured confines.
Despite getting busted for speeding, driving suspended license two months into his three-year probationary review, nevertheless, barely a year later, all charges dismissed, and JRF a free man this past April.
And what a month of renewal it was. His online relationship with FJ was heating up and he purchased the blue truck, as a symbol of his new freedom.
(It can not be understated in Morongo the hardship of not having a vehicle (if JRF was abiding by his terms) and this may be where friend DH comes in handy, the 15-20 mile treks on Hiway 62 to access full services. But for all we know JRF fully embraced his reformation, accepting it as basic training, preparing for one more special op, strapping on a 75# backpack and trekking to PSprings or YValley. I mean, have you seen the photos?).IMG_2119.pngIMG_2120.jpeg
The earlier mugshot photo above, a chapter FJ, sadly, was not aware. as compared to the later version of JRF as captured by JF looks like a before/after advert of a total makeover.
After a hellish four-year stint in Morongo Valley, messy, never-ending marital and criminal issues, JRF, with a new lease on life had much to look forward to, beginning with a new romantic interest.
Unfortunately, PTSD is real and—despite the determination of the VTC—some cargo can not be so easily jettisoned.
My heart aches for the anguish of the innocents.
 
This case is giving me the same vibes as the linked case below. The average temperature in the area of the park the week around July 22 was over 100°F. Perhaps they went for a hike and became distressed due to the heat. Perhaps JRF was able to make it closer back to the car than FJ was. MOO.

 
@mark1969
I want to thank you again for joining us here.
Hopefully what happened to Fang Jin will be clear soon.
Beside PI and few local friends ... this group has been very supported to us by being critical and alert in all ways it can contribute....so thanks alot to all members of this group
 
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Looking at a piece of paper that lists words does not tell you who a person is. You need context of those charges. You need to know what has happened since that time. People are allowed to change and recover, reform.
If you recall, he was in the Veterans treatment program. MANY veterans suffer with mental health and self treat with alcohol. Once they are able to overcome their addiction, they are able to treat their underlying issues and begin to heal as a person.
Imagine if someone took the worst mistake you ever made in your life and forever hung that over your head and defined you by that? It is unfair to judge the current person based off past mistakes with no context or evidence that they have done anything wrong at present.
All we know at this point is that he is an innocent victim as well until we receive evidence that shows otherwise.
 
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