Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #4

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StarRemy8 said:
Do we think HP and her car missing are related? I mean it would seem pretty coincidental if something happened to her or she ran off and left it and it just so happened to be stolen and sold or chopped. But at the same time...if it had been sitting there for days and was noticed maybe the car was an easy target? I am just thinking there was a lot of time between her last being seen in the alley and the dog being found at H+F.

We know the dog was there right after she was last seen but what was the date again that JW finally found out the dog was at H+F? I am assuming he was the first to find out and I can't remember from when he found out to when the H+F was first asked for surveillance which they turned down until LE had a warrant and then from there how long did it take to get again? I have looked through all the timelines on here but neither of those are on there so does anyone know?

I just wonder at this point if she and her car are even intertwined or if they are two totally separate incidences and what the odds would be that both of them still being missing wouldn't be correlated other than it was her car...
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Perhaps HF made it back to her car without Seven and drove and disappeared from elsewhere?
 
Although this case is full of unanswered questions, these are what I feel are some of the biggest ones.
1. What was she doing at the apartment complex?
2. Why the time in between when JW filed the MP report (10/20) and when LAPD posted the MP info (10/27)
3. What was the infamous JS muffin run on 10/18 about? Two days before she was even reported as missing.
4. What was the joint L.E. raid on her house about?
5. Why the involvement of RHD?
6. Where is her car?
7. How did her dog end up in the complex?
8. Most importantly, where is she?
I realize these are all pretty obvious questions, but seeing how we are getting pretty much zero new info on this case, that is all we are left with. Questions. Be nice to have some answers.
 
If staff knew her and the dog she must have been a relatively frequent visitor. I wonder if that familiarity would extend to allowing her into the building without an escort from the building resident themselves? Would they perhaps let her in to wait up in the dog park? Did she then abandon the dog on floor 28/29 and then leave, hoping the person who lives there would take care of him?

alternatively, if something happened to her in that building and the dog was deliberately left behind by someone responsible for it, I could imagine them using the fire exit stairs to abandon him on a random floor. A floor that wouldn’t connect them to whatever happened.

The dog thing is driving me mad. As are all the somethings/someones/somewheres. This is the weirdest case on so many levels.
 
Beans said:
If staff knew her and the dog she must have been a relatively frequent I totavisitor. I wonder if that familiarity would extend to allowing her into the building without an escort from the building resident themselves? Would they perhaps let her in to wait up in the dog park? Did she then abandon the dog on floor 28/29 and then leave, hoping the person who lives there would take care of him?

alternatively, if something happened to her in that building and the dog was deliberately left behind by someone responsible for it, I could imagine them using the fire exit stairs to abandon him on a random floor. A floor that wouldn’t connect them to whatever happened.

The dog thing is driving me mad. As are all the somethings/someones/somewheres. This is the weirdest case on so many levels.
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I totally agree; the dog is such a puzzling element in this disappearance. Did she take Seven with her because she was planning on going on errands a and then return home but something happened and she was separated from her dog?
 
Strong1 said:
Although this case is full of unanswered questions, these are what I feel are some of the biggest ones.
1. What was she doing at the apartment complex?
2. Why the time in between when JW filed the MP report (10/20) and when LAPD posted the MP info (10/27)
3. What was the infamous JS muffin run on 10/18 about? Two days before she was even reported as missing.
4. What was the joint L.E. raid on her house about?
5. Why the involvement of RHD?
6. Where is her car?
7. How did her dog end up in the complex?
8. Most importantly, where is she?
I realize these are all pretty obvious questions, but seeing how we are getting pretty much zero new info on this case, that is all we are left with. Questions. Be nice to have some answers.
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I really wish we knew 1 and 7. If we just knew why she was there, we could definitely fill in some blanks.
 
Curiosa20 said:
Is it customary for Nancy Grace to run only 1 show on a missing person? A high profile Mom?
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Never been a fan of NG. Always felt like she must get most of her information here at WS, as she always seemed to be about two or three days behind us with her "bombshells". Maybe she is waiting for us to uncover something new, which, atm, doesn't seem likely. I think we have hashed, re-hashed, and hashed again, every tiny bit of information that has come out in this sad case, and are no closer to figuring out what happened to Heidi, where she is, and who is responsible. JMO
 
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MiamiMom said:
There is nothing to suggest that HP's car is missing; it's possible that LE has located it. Do you disagree? Is there any solid indication that HP's car is missing?
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I would say it is 50/50 missing and if anything there is more to suggest it is than not MOO. Of course it could have been located and LE could have it but I would think considering it has been said when they found the dog, and what building, and where the last time she was caught on camera was and continue to list the car make/model and plate #s on all of the reports asking for info that there is nothing suggesting it is not missing?

JW and her friends also went and looked all around there and could not find it right after they found out the dog was found at H+F so unless LE got their first (which it doesn't sound like they did or had much cooperation at all until a warrant) I would think that the car was not right there in the vicinity or any of them looking should have seen it. But surely there is no solid indication of anything in this case, literally, nothing is other than she is missing and even that itself has been debated here.

I just hope LE's silence is because they have some leads/evidence and are building a case vs this somehow being swept under the rug by the higher-ups or them hitting dead ends and this becoming a cold case.
 
StarRemy8 said:
Well a few things I would say to this...

1) This is what her salary and bonuses are what JW said she makes so again we don't know how much exactly she makes, not saying he is wrong but he also might not know for sure and she could certainly be bringing money in on the side doing other things as well, illegal or not just saying that is what we have heard from him.

2) We can only go off of a Zestimate so again, who knows if they had some arrangement or what she was actually being charged. Also, if you look at the Camden Capital LLC you will see that the business address changed from an office in Bev Hills to her home address in Jan 2020. This was also right when Covid was hitting and possibly she was going to start working from home and by putting her address as the business address for the LLC her rent could have been entirely written off as a business expense.

3) Her son's tuition looks to be 10-15k annually so if they split that it would be 5-7.5k each...unless I missed something where are you seeing the school is 60k a year? They also could qualify for financial aid with JW claiming to have had no income since Covid and you can pay monthly installments o if they were splitting that cost it would only be 500-800 a month on her end.

4) The wigs...she has some on there even more that she says were over 3k but again, who knows how long she has had those, if she bought them or if they were gifts. her ex worked in the hair industry so she could also possibly have had connections through people she met through him and gotten wholesale price or discounts...could have also expensed them...trust me I worked off wall st in NYC for years and the **** we could expense...even her car could be paid for.

I am definitely not disagreeing that while at a quick glance it seems she was living well above her means...there are two options...she either could have been and in serious serious debt OR many of her expenses were written off and/or paid for and she was living fine with her current income and any supplemental income, could have been escorting, doing deals etc. or even just simply selling wigs and whatnot, just saying we really have no clue what she was making and neither does JW for that matter.
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If their custody agreement involved any type of payments/monetary agreements he would know her income, it’s very common for people to have to submit that info in court in regards to custody.
 
Moonbeam456 said:
If their custody agreement involved any type of payments/monetary agreements he would know her income, it’s very common for people to have to submit that info in court in regards to custody.
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Right and that is why I explained she could have supplemental income that is not known other than what she would have to show in court which is only what is reported. She was selling almost 16k worth of wigs and extensions on Poshmark at a discounted price and of course I was not suggesting but just saying there could be other ways to make money as well since to a lot of people it seemed thought she was living above her means in LA with solely the income JW has stated for whatever reason to the media. There are plenty of people that have side hustles in addition to their job/salary, legal and/or illegal but my point was that no one fully knows the extent of her income except herself.
 
CharlestonGal said:
We wouldn't know a thing about Heidi's disappearance had JW and Heidi's friends finally not gotten the attention of the press. LE has never said a word. Which is a very curious thing, IMO.
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I don’t see that they went to the press. The press went to them when the delayed MP bulletin went out, 10 or 11 days after Heidi went missing.
What’s that all about?
 
StarRemy8 said:
Right and that is why I explained she could have supplemental income that is not known other than what she would have to show in court which is only what is reported. She was selling almost 16k worth of wigs and extensions on Poshmark at a discounted price and of course I was not suggesting but just saying there could be other ways to make money as well since to a lot of people it seemed thought she was living above her means in LA with solely the income JW has stated for whatever reason to the media. There are plenty of people that have side hustles in addition to their job/salary, legal and/or illegal but my point was that no one fully knows the extent of her income except herself.
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Or JW made a deal with her to sell them for him.
 
StarRemy8 said:
Right and that is why I explained she could have supplemental income that is not known other than what she would have to show in court which is only what is reported. She was selling almost 16k worth of wigs and extensions on Poshmark at a discounted price and of course I was not suggesting but just saying there could be other ways to make money as well since to a lot of people it seemed thought she was living above her means in LA with solely the income JW has stated for whatever reason to the media. There are plenty of people that have side hustles in addition to their job/salary, legal and/or illegal but my point was that no one fully knows the extent of her income except herself.
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Of course embezzlement could be on the list of side hustles, IMO
 
I remember being slightly bemused that people were hung up on dogs in the Summer Wells case. Now I’m all hung up on dogs.

LE never released any of the video footage, is that right? The more I think about this one the more I’m leaning towards a managed (but hopefully temporary) disappearance of some sort.
 
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