Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #5

[bears10]

I am not sure I have seen the story being taken as gospel. For me personally, I do believe Maserati Mama told the YouTuber the story that The Sun ran, but I definitely don't take any of those claims as gospel. As I have said more than once, I think there are likely some shreds of truth buried among a bunch of half-truths and lies, woven around some story aimed to either protect someone or deflect from someone. JMO

we must be reading different threads lol. I feel like it’s being talked about as if she absolutely dropped her dog off at a dog sitter on the 28th or 29th floor, went to a party on the 40th floor, overdosed on fentanyl laced adderall, got put down a garbage chute but got stuck at the 28th floor, etc etc

 

[penguinface]

we must be reading different threads lol. I feel like it’s being talked about as if she absolutely dropped her dog off at a dog sitter on the 28th or 29th floor, went to a party on the 40th floor, overdosed on fentanyl laced adderall, got put down a garbage chute but got stuck at the 28th floor, etc etc

I think there are some people assuming the story’s true, but there does still seem to be equal amounts of skepticism too IMHO.

FWIW, purely my own opinion, I think the dog sitter, “strippers and crypto” party and (accidental, at least,) overdose are all false/misdirection, but happy to reconsider depending on what other evidence eventually becomes available.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I really have no idea what happened and am interested in everyone's theory, this one included. I am not leaning a particular way. But--

I don't own Apple electronics but I've certainly got some location trackers on my devices turned off for general privacy reasons. I also don't drive a fancy expensive car like HP's but if I had a nosy ex-husband who took me to court often and who seemed too interested in what I was doing and where I was more than 8 years after we split up, I might turn off a car tracker too. (And there seems to be some dispute as to whether the car stuff was turned off recently or was never activated by the previous owner.)

We don't know for sure whether HP regularly used Adderall or any other drug and if she did, how much she used. (We know JW said she was an Adderall "addict" over 5 years ago and also said she didn't use other drugs. Both things or neither thing may have been true then and both or neither may be true now.)

We don't know how likely HP would have been to attend a Sunday night party and use drugs. We don't know what kind of sleep/wake schedule HP kept. We especially don't know what she typically did when she didn't have BW. Given she had a work computer at home, we don't even know how often she went to an office or if her work-from-home routine always meant working from her own home since the computer was a laptop. And amphetamines don't interfere with "productivity" the way some other drugs do (even if we could say most people prefer to be "productive " and I'm not sure that's true.)

In general I think an accidental overdose is a far simpler explanation than a murder plot involving her boss, an SEC investigation, and connections to the president's son. But simpler is not always correct--Occam's razor does fail sometimes!

JMO

Yes, yes an “accidental” overdose is a far simpler explanation than a murder plot…

But $40 million dollars can buy silence. Dead silence.

Chasing a bigger paycheck by working in a financial firm under SEC investigation sounds like a recipe for trouble. If she was the firm’s top accountant, there is no question she was aware of any improprieties. If she was in too deep to leave, but expressed an interest in moving on, the powers that be may have taken the opportunity to help her. I wonder if she stayed to assist the SEC with their investigation? Took a plea bargain and this was part of the agreement.

But, I doubt this is “accidental”.

 

[SteveP]

The word 'speculation' has been defined as 'the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence'. I think we can all agree that almost no firm evidence has been revealed to us in this case. Without firm evidence, one person's speculation is as valid as any other's. JMO

 

[Rtael]

The word 'speculation' has been defined as 'the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence'. I think we can all agree that almost no firm evidence has been revealed to us in this case. Without firm evidence, one person's speculation is as valid as any other's. JMO

I disagree. Some speculation is clearly more rational, likely, and reality-based than other speculation.

 

[SteveP]

I disagree. Some speculation is clearly more rational, likely, and reality-based than other speculation.

Agreed. Let me qualify that. To assume that she was abducted by UFO aliens, or to claim she spontaneously combusted are not rational speculation, but I have some nothing irrational speculated here, even though I may not personally subscribe to all thoughts. Truth is, unless someone here was involved in her disappearance, none of us knows what happened.

 

[NCWatcher]

Yes, yes an “accidental” overdose is a far simpler explanation than a murder plot…

But $40 million dollars can buy silence. Dead silence.

Chasing a bigger paycheck by working in a financial firm under SEC investigation sounds like a recipe for trouble. If she was the firm’s top accountant, there is no question she was aware of any improprieties. If she was in too deep to leave, but expressed an interest in moving on, the powers that be may have taken the opportunity to help her. I wonder if she stayed to assist the SEC with their investigation? Took a plea bargain and this was part of the agreement.

But, I doubt this is “accidental”.

I don't know. But plenty of other folks who were definitely involved in those "financial activities" are still alive and well. I just don't see that HP would necessarily have possessed knowledge none of these other people did. But certainly if you are correct and HP was an informer, I suspect that will eventually be known. As it is, it sounds too much like a TV show plot to seem believable to me without at least a shred of evidence. And about all I think we've got is she supposedly told a BF she wanted him to come down from San Francisco for the weekend because she was "scared." But we don't know why she was scared, we don't know if that's something she often said to him, we just don't know.

JMO

 

[azure]

All I'm saying is, no way was that woman knowingly going to a big party with her hair looking like that. We've seen numerous photos of her made up. Her hair on that last surveillance video was not party hair.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I disagree. Some speculation is clearly more rational, likely, and reality-based than other speculation.

And that in itself, is subjective…and speculative. ; )

 

[bears10]

Yes, yes an “accidental” overdose is a far simpler explanation than a murder plot…

But $40 million dollars can buy silence. Dead silence.

Chasing a bigger paycheck by working in a financial firm under SEC investigation sounds like a recipe for trouble. If she was the firm’s top accountant, there is no question she was aware of any improprieties. If she was in too deep to leave, but expressed an interest in moving on, the powers that be may have taken the opportunity to help her. I wonder if she stayed to assist the SEC with their investigation? Took a plea bargain and this was part of the agreement.

But, I doubt this is “accidental”.

she wasn’t “the firms top accountant”. She wasn’t an accountant at all afaik. I think the SEC could make their case without her cooperation. If they even are still actively pursuing heidis boss. Jmo

 

[Rtael]

she wasn’t “the firms top accountant”. She wasn’t an accountant at all afaik.

Perhaps. I've seen here she was listed as controller for some of those LLCs, which is definitely an accounting position. I don't think that necessarily means she WAS involved in the accounting but it does give an indication.

 

[Gobstopper]

she wasn’t “the firms top accountant”. She wasn’t an accountant at all afaik. I think the SEC could make their case without her cooperation. If they even are still actively pursuing heidis boss. Jmo

Agree the SEC could make their case without HP. To me it seems more like an issue of perceived or real betrayal by HP to JS. He probably paid her well and depended on her loyalty and discretion in business matters. If he thought she had spoken to the SEC and betrayed his trust I suspect he would be miffed. There may be more sketchy business dealings that don't rule out future criminal charges. MOO

 

[Rtael]

I think there are some people assuming the story’s true, but there does still seem to be equal amounts of skepticism too IMHO.

FWIW, purely my own opinion, I think the dog sitter, “strippers and crypto” party and (accidental, at least,) overdose are all false/misdirection, but happy to reconsider depending on what other evidence eventually becomes available.

Yes. The whole story sounds...far-fetched to say the least. Especially the timing aspect of it. Unless the dog-finders are mistaken (or lying) about the time they found Seven and/or the dog was lost before whatever happened to HP happened, how is there enough time for her to get to this 'party', overdose, and then for everyone there to collaborate to cover it up? Just doesn't sniff right. I'm not at all convinced we've got the entirely correct timeline whether due to people lying, people misremembering, or just our own incorrect assumptions here based on limited and imperfect information. But I really don't see how this supposed party could factor in at all, except perhaps very tangentially.

The whole idea of people lacing anything with fentanyl is beyond bizarre to me, but clearly it DOES happen so I suppose it's not impossible. I just don't see how that scenario would really fit with what we know here.

 

[SteveP]

Yes. The whole story sounds...far-fetched to say the least. Especially the timing aspect of it. Unless the dog-finders are mistaken (or lying) about the time they found Seven and/or the dog was lost before whatever happened to HP happened, how is there enough time for her to get to this 'party', overdose, and then for everyone there to collaborate to cover it up? Just doesn't sniff right. I'm not at all convinced we've got the entirely correct timeline whether due to people lying, people misremembering, or just our own incorrect assumptions here based on limited and imperfect information. But I really don't see how this supposed party could factor in at all, except perhaps very tangentially.

The whole idea of people lacing anything with fentanyl is beyond bizarre to me, but clearly it DOES happen so I suppose it's not impossible. I just don't see how that scenario would really fit with what we know here.

On this, we both completely agree! I am actually rather convinced that we do not have the entirely correct timeline, and so much of our speculation is dependent on the accuracy of the timeline.

 

[SteveP]

The DEA Is Warning Of A Rise In Overdose Deaths From Fake Drugs Laced With Fentanyl : NPR

 

[Kapua]

I am not sure I have seen the story being taken as gospel. For me personally, I do believe Maserati Mama told the YouTuber the story that The Sun ran, but I definitely don't take any of those claims as gospel. As I have said more than once, I think there are likely some shreds of truth buried among a bunch of half-truths and lies, woven around some story aimed to either protect someone or deflect from someone. JMO

Well, I certainly don't take ANYTHING as gospel at this point in time. I think it's plausible that HP had developed a tolerance to Adderall and was getting a supply beyond what was prescribed to her from someone in the building. Another thing I firmly believe is that LE would not be searching a landfill on a whim. MOO

 

[NCWatcher]

The DEA Is Warning Of A Rise In Overdose Deaths From Fake Drugs Laced With Fentanyl : NPR

Thanks for the link. It also says:

"This alert doesn't only apply to fake opioid medications. DEA officials said a knockoff version of the stimulant Adderall is being sold on the black market laced with methamphetamines."

So it's possible IF HP got a bad batch of fake Adderall, it might not have been bad because of Fentanyl. I would think Fentanyl would mainly be added to fake opioid pills but methamphetamines cause plenty of ODs too.
JMO

 

[SteveP]

Here is another story, printed less than a month ago...

Hollywood’s Sobering New Reality of Fentanyl Lacing – The Hollywood Reporter

 

[StasiaUK]

Just had a thought, what IF she still needed the Adderall but was too frightened to go through the official route due to a fear it would be used against her again in court? The thought of losing her son could have put her off seeking help if she needed it again. Genuinely needed it.

It possibly sounds bizarre but this whole case is bizarre. Just MOOing…

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Here’s what apartment chutes generally look like.

I think if there was a dog sitter, they got wind something went wrong and let the dog go and then ran for it. I don’t think it was put in the chute, it would be hard for the animal to get purchase and pull itself out even if it were standing on a stuck body.

Also I think the sitter knew what she was up to, otherwise why release a dog unattended in the building? If the dog just escaped when they opened the door, it wouldn’t be hard to get the dog back, it couldn’t go far.