Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #5

[Wendigo4]

All I'm saying is, no way was that woman knowingly going to a big party with her hair looking like that. We've seen numerous photos of her made up. Her hair on that last surveillance video was not party hair.

Just Curious, what is the dress code for parties with strippers and drug use.........

 

[akazia1978]

Just Curious, what is the dress code for parties with strippers and drug use.........

None as far as I know. If you are there for drugs no one cares what you look like. Been to plenty in NYC. I never did "party hair" whatever that means lol. You hang out, do drugs and then eventually leave. And for anyone that thinks fent is not in a lot of drugs....well, that borders on very silly. I bought fent tests for my friends that like the cocaine because it is no longer safe anymore and I don't want them dead

 

[StasiaUK]

Just Curious, what is the dress code for parties with strippers and drug use.........

Not flats, jeans and a hoody/t’shirt. If she was going to party I agree she’d have been done up the the nines. I mean… how she was dressed is how I would to pop in to see a friend or run errands.

I see your point though, but I think she would have definitely been dressed up judging by her other pics she seemed to take pride in her appearance.

 

[penguinface]

Here’s what apartment chutes generally look like.

I think if there was a dog sitter, they got wind something went wrong and let the dog go and then ran for it. I don’t think it was put in the chute, it would be hard for the animal to get purchase and pull itself out even if it were standing on a stuck body.

Also I think the sitter knew what she was up to, otherwise why release a dog unattended in the building? If the dog just escaped when they opened the door, it wouldn’t be hard to get the dog back, it couldn’t go far.

All of this is part of why the existence of a dog sitter just doesn’t pass the sniff test for me. Also, I’m fairly sure if there was a dog sitter that HP used the services of in the building, police would have records of the messages arranging drop-off/pick-up times and dates etc.

 

[SteveP]

Unless and until we can ascertain who she knew there, and what that relationship was at the time of her disappearance, I don't believe we will ever know why she was at H+F that fateful evening. I personally do not believe it was her intent to go to a party there, as, like most here, I believe she would have been dressed differently had that been her plan. I do believe there was some type of party, or get-together, there that evening, and I believe IF she went to it, it was only because she was looking for someone who was there. Whether that was a boyfriend, a business associate, a dealer, or some combination of the three, I have no idea.

I think a lot of people have problems with the thought that she was the victim of an overdose of a drug, but it has been well-documented that Adderall pills that are purchased illegally are becoming increasingly laced with fentanyl, and it has been established that she had been taking Adderall since about the age of 14, prescribed for ADHD. It has also been ALLEGED by her ex, in court documents, that at some point in the past, she had abused the drug, doctor-shopping and getting from three suppliers. There is no verification of that, nor is there any verification that she was doing it recently, or even for that matter, if she was still taking Adderall. But, imo, it is not too much of a stretch to consider that she was still taking Adderall, and for whatever reason, MAY have been at H+F to get one or more, for whatever reason. I don't think anyone here believes that she knowingly would have taken a pill laced with fentanyl, but especially if she may have gotten them from the same source before, with no such problems, it is possible that she may have taken one that proved fatal. It could have happened while she was still at the alleged big party, or in someone else's apartment, or elsewhere on the property. I do believe the claim that she overdosed at the party is probably not true, at least to the extent that she may have died. I do not believe a roomful of people saw a woman overdose and die, and get carried out , without 9-1-1 ever being called, and without it becoming the talk of the building overnight. Another possibility, though perhaps less likely, is that someone who wished to do her harm may have involuntarily injected a lethal dose of some drug into her system. I do believe that if she died in that building, and I do believe she did, I believe it was probably in someone else's apartment, and the number of people who were aware of it at the time, or soon after, was the number needed to cover up her death and disposal, perhaps the 1-5 that JW alluded to having knowledge of what happened. JMO

 

[PNW]

Not flats, jeans and a hoody/t’shirt. If she was going to party I agree she’d have been done up the the nines. I mean… how she was dressed is how I would to pop in to see a friend or run errands.

I see your point though, but I think she would have definitely been dressed up judging by her other pics she seemed to take pride in her appearance.

It’s a drug party. It’s not a holiday party where you get all dolled up. No one cares what you look like.

 

[Rtael]

Just Curious, what is the dress code for parties with strippers and drug use.........

Handcuffs and heels

 

[azure]

Just Curious, what is the dress code for parties with strippers and drug use.........

I think you're trying to be hilarious and blame our victim for being in a completely made up scenario but I'm happy to elaborate for you! I am younger than Heidi. I wear extensions (the tape in, permanent until removed by a stylist type) 90% of the time. Heidi wears wigs. I can safely say we are the same type of person, from a grooming standpoint. If I'm going out, my hair is styled. If I'm going to a party with strippers and drugs, that sounds pretty exciting, so I'm going to make sure my hair and outfit are on point. No way would I go anywhere exciting with my extensions out and my short hair a mess. Not happening. I'd put money on that being the same for Heidi.

 

[StasiaUK]

It’s a drug party. It’s not a holiday party where you get all dolled up. No one cares what you look like.

I apologise, I was under the assumption that because the 40th floor apartments are so expensive, as well as crypto not being cheap either, that it would be the sort of party that yes, there are drugs, but also strippers/staff paid well for their discretion. Certainly if residents from the rap scene are there? I was looking at the whole picture before commenting I’m sorry I did not mean any offence. But if someone mentioned party to me I’d be dolled up, it wouldn’t cross my mind to dress so casually. I don’t do drugs or drink alcohol or gamble but this doesn’t mean I wouldn’t want to be looking my best.

 

[StasiaUK]

I think you're trying to be hilarious and blame our victim for being in a completely made up scenario but I'm happy to elaborate for you! I am younger than Heidi. I wear extensions (the tape in, permanent until removed by a stylist type) 90% of the time. Heidi wears wigs. I can safely say we are the same type of person, from a grooming standpoint. If I'm going out, my hair is styled. If I'm going to a party with strippers and drugs, that sounds pretty exciting, so I'm going to make sure my hair and outfit are on point. No way would I go anywhere exciting with my extensions out and my short hair a mess. Not happening. I'd put money on that being the same for Heidi.

Absolutely spot on I’m the same although I can’t keep extensions in (lol) they irritate me because I sleep awkwardly lol I just think she was visiting a friend or picking something up not intending to be at a party. I mean, we don’t know for sure this even happened but if it did she wouldn’t have been in flats and casually dressed.

 

[NCWatcher]

Not flats, jeans and a hoody/t’shirt. If she was going to party I agree she’d have been done up the the nines. I mean… how she was dressed is how I would to pop in to see a friend or run errands.

I see your point though, but I think she would have definitely been dressed up judging by her other pics she seemed to take pride in her appearance.

I'm not sure I buy the "big party" scenario from Ms. Maserati anyway. But I'm also not sure how HP was dressed when seen walking her dog at the H&F matters. Here's why.

1. As others have said, if it happened as described, it was a drug & gambling event, not a "look forward to it for days if not weeks" planned "social" party.

2. If it was a planned party with advance invitations, who plans those for early on a Sunday evening?

3. HP probably wouldn't have dressed up in what folks are seeming to call her party style to go to BW's game even if she planned to go to a party later. And given how nosy he seems to be IMO, I doubt she'd have wanted to invite questions from JW by dressing in an "after dark" style at 3 pm.

4. If she really had a BF at the H&F, she could have changed there after walking the dog. We don't know that she didn't have party clothes and a party wig in her car or at his house. And the assumption (based on a reported dog story) that whatever happened to HP happened by 7pm may be quite wrong.
JMO

 

[raja]

When I think of a Sunday afternoon early evening party I think about people gathered to watch a little football with maybe a card game going on usually casual. Strippers do not come to mind.

 

[rosesfromangels]

When I think of a Sunday afternoon early evening party I think about people gathered to watch a little football with maybe a card game going on usually casual. Strippers do not come to mind.

LOL...but yes, you are right. The described activity is not what you would normally associate with Sunday afternoon activity. Perhaps they got a discount for the off day? ; )

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[SteveP]

When I think of a Sunday afternoon early evening party I think about people gathered to watch a little football with maybe a card game going on usually casual. Strippers do not come to mind.

I just had a thought that could place Heidi at the supposed party in another scenario.

It has been alleged in the Sun article that Heidi had an unknown boyfriend in H+F. It is possible that she went to H+F to see that boyfriend, perhaps unannounced. That would seem more likely than that she was there for a party, given the way she was dressed and the fact that she had Seven with her. It was reported early on that her and the boyfriend we knew about were on and off, and he assumed she was ghosting him because he allegedly had not heard from her in a few days. She apparently had asked him to come down for the weekend, and he had declined, saying he needed to work. Perhaps in an effort to get back at him, she went to meet the new boyfriend, and when she got there, she learned that he was at the party. Possibly feeling dejected by another man, she may have gone up to the party to see him, and was angered at what she saw, and an argument ensued. Perhaps they both left the party and went to his apartment where the argument escalated to the point that she was killed during a heated moment. If he happened to live on the 28th floor, that could very sensibly explain the dog's presence there. All JMO, and feel free to tear it apart. I am not saying this is what happened, but it is a possibility I have not heard mentioned. And yes, I know Occam would have a field day with this, but I also think Occam would be as clueless on this one as the rest of us are.

ETA Perhaps what started Sunday afternoon as football and cards continued into the evening, and strippers arrived later.

 

[Gobstopper]

Can we discuss JWs declaration page 2, paragraph 8 or lines 7 - 9 of the court document filed 10/26/21?

 

[SteveP]

Can we discuss JWs declaration page 2, paragraph 8 or lines 7 - 9 of the court document filed 10/26/21?

Only if they have been published or referenced in MSM.

 

[NCWatcher]

I just had a thought that could place Heidi at the supposed party in another scenario.

It has been alleged in the Sun article that Heidi had an unknown boyfriend in H+F. It is possible that she went to H+F to see that boyfriend, perhaps unannounced. That would seem more likely than that she was there for a party, given the way she was dressed and the fact that she had Seven with her. It was reported early on that her and the boyfriend we knew about were on and off, and he assumed she was ghosting him because he allegedly had not heard from her in a few days. She apparently had asked him to come down for the weekend, and he had declined, saying he needed to work. Perhaps in an effort to get back at him, she went to meet the new boyfriend, and when she got there, she learned that he was at the party. Possibly feeling dejected by another man, she may have gone up to the party to see him, and was angered at what she saw, and an argument ensued. Perhaps they both left the party and went to his apartment where the argument escalated to the point that she was killed during a heated moment. If he happened to live on the 28th floor, that could very sensibly explain the dog's presence there. All JMO, and feel free to tear it apart. I am not saying this is what happened, but it is a possibility I have not heard mentioned. And yes, I know Occam would have a field day with this, but I also think Occam would be as clueless on this one as the rest of us are.

ETA Perhaps what started Sunday afternoon as football and cards continued into the evening, and strippers arrived later.

I guess that's as likely as many hypotheses people have put forth. (And in my opinion, more likely than some of the more dramatic plot lines that have been proposed.)

But I'm not sure how that fits into the notion that 1-5 people know what happened. (My feeling is JW was told that by LE. He didn't just make it up but I have no proof of that.) IF she was killed in a BF's apartment at the H&F (& I do find the idea of multiple BFs credible), it seems not too likely the "killer BF" would call friends to somehow dispose of her body so that it ended up in the landfill. At least that seems less likely to me than a party OD and a freak out by some people who were already there.

If there was someone who lived at the H&F HP was dating, it would seem LE would have found that out pretty easily even if JW didn't know about him. (In interviews JW has felt compelled to identify only NS as her "boyfriend.")

JMO

 

[swedeheart]

LOL...but yes, you are right. The described activity is not what you would normally associate with Sunday afternoon activity. Perhaps they got a discount for the off day? ; )

Amateur opinion and speculation

My impression is that this was not an early party with drugs and strippers, but a late one- an after-party, still raging from Saturday or even Friday night. IMO.

Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas.

 

[StarRemy8]

I see it from a different angle. If HP is the one who turned off her tracking devices IMO it was not because she was worried about JW knowing where she was but instead was because she was fearful of being followed by someone else.
While true that more people die from overdose than at their boss's direction, most bosses aren't accused of stealing $43M from pension funds. MOO

What tracking devices do we know were "turned off"? I have a memory of reading somewhere that the one in the car had just not been set up but I could be wrong. Either way, I know it has been stated her phone and possibly apple watch had the location services turned off but it is important to know if they were actually "turned off" in the sense she always had them on and then they were turned off or if she just never turned them on to begin with. I personally never have my location services turned on for the simple fact that it seems to drain my battery faster and I always have my phone on "eco-mode". I think a lot of times its in the reporting where they say they were all turned off as to suggest something suspicious but I do not ever remember that being followed by JW or her friends saying that she always had them on to begin with minus the car. And from the photo of her leaving that day I also don't notice a watch on her left hand which is where most people wear them but it could certainly be blurry.

 

[SteveP]

What tracking devices do we know were "turned off"? I have a memory of reading somewhere that the one in the car had just not been set up but I could be wrong. Either way, I know it has been stated her phone and possibly apple watch had the location services turned off but it is important to know if they were actually "turned off" in the sense she always had them on and then they were turned off or if she just never turned them on to begin with. I personally never have my location services turned on for the simple fact that it seems to drain my battery faster and I always have my phone on "eco-mode". I think a lot of times its in the reporting where they say they were all turned off as to suggest something suspicious but I do not ever remember that being followed by JW or her friends saying that she always had them on to begin with minus the car. And from the photo of her leaving that day I also don't notice a watch on her left hand which is where most people wear them but it could certainly be blurry.

BBM If you enlarge the video to full screen, you can see that she is wearing what most likely is the Apple watch on her right arm, as soon as she locks the door and turns toward the car, at about the 07 second mark. It appears to have a white or beige band.

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