CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #10

[Edmo]

So he sees a limited amount of people. Only those in cells he passes by? They escort him to the shower and no one else is in there? He eats alone. When he goes out for air he's all alone? I would be jumping out of my skin. I posted earlier. Lousy coffee, lousy food, no smoking and no wine. Just shoot me.

If he is in Ad-Seg, his recreation will be in the dayroom, not outside. The dayroom will have a shower that Ad-Seg inmates share. An inmate is usually allowed 1 hour a day to exercise, make phone calls and shower in the dayroom. Usually, there are between 16 -32 single cells in one dayroom, depending on the size of his facility. They are also fed through a slot in their door and they eat inside of their cell.

 

[missy1974]

Feb. 10, 2010 - San Diego County sheriffs deputies conduct a welfare check on the McStay home. No signs of foul play, deputies do not go inside.

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Snipped by me... and not necessarily directed at you
@smr ....

But have we heard testimony from an officer that did the welfare check? Not just that it was stated by someone else, etc.

 

[missy1974]

I am at my dads office and quickbooks just froze on him.
I'm still 12 pages behind but just felt the need to share.

It's a conspiracy

 

[citygirl]

If he is in Ad-Seg, his recreation will be in the dayroom, not outside. The dayroom will have a shower that Ad-Seg inmates share. An inmate is usually allowed 1 hour a day to exercise, make phone calls and shower in the dayroom. Usually, there are between 16 -32 single cells in one dayroom, depending on the size of his facility. They are also fed through a slot in their door and they eat inside of their cell.

But when Smith testified he noted protective custody. Not Ad Seg. DT said you mean Ad Seg. And he said no. Inferred there was a differentiation between the two.

 

[asyousay]

If he is in Ad-Seg, his recreation will be in the dayroom, not outside. The dayroom will have a shower that Ad-Seg inmates share. An inmate is usually allowed 1 hour a day to exercise, make phone calls and shower in the dayroom. Usually, there are between 16 -32 single cells in one dayroom, depending on the size of his facility. They are also fed through a slot in their door and they eat inside of their cell.

This is why I think this is a better punishment than death.

Chase is obviously older so it will affect him less but if you are even 40 years of age a life inside without parole sounds a lot worse than being fried.

 

[asyousay]

Do we have court everyday night week besides Friday?

 

[Bernina]

But when Smith testified he noted protective custody. Not Ad Seg. DT said you mean Ad Seg. And he said no. Inferred there was a differentiation between the two.

I actually wrote it down when Smith was questioned about it:

"Protective Custody/Segregated"

 

[Edmo]

But when Smith testified he noted protective custody. Not Ad Seg. DT said you mean Ad Seg. And he said no. Inferred there was a differentiation between the two.

Then he might be with other PC inmates then, or PC alone. @Bernina wrote it down and segregated is alone.

 

[MichaelCorleone]

Do we have court everyday night week besides Friday?

Supposedly, but I honestly wouldn’t bet a nickel that it pans out this way, based on this trial’s history.

 

[Edmo]

I actually wrote it down when Smith was questioned about it:

"Protective Custody/Segregated"

IF he is convicted and sentenced to death, I believe there are only a few prisons in Ca that house DP Inmates. I've never heard of any Death Row inmates housed with the public. However, I believe DR Inmates are now housed 2 to a cell, if they agree to share a cell?

 

[Force Ten]

The check writing has basically been admitted to by the defense. You get that right? The defense has not disputed that Chase wrote checks by way of Joey's QB's account-but only from the Custom account.

For those checks to be of any value, they have to be cashed, and the cashing of one of those checks occurred while Joey was still alive. Joey made no move to change any aspect of either the passwords for QB or alerted anyone at his bank to anything being wrong.

That's all we know.

Do we know if Chase stole money as the state contends, or if Joey gave Chase direction to write those checks? No. We may never know this for certain.

But where is the evidence that the check writing and the murders are related?

And Dan K apparently made much more money, after these murders than Chase did.

So if money is the motive...well then...

If money isn't the motive, where is there any proof that Chase had motive to kill Joey? Where is the proof that Joey was going to fire Chase? Where is the proof that Chase did anything more than make certain he was paid for work he'd done?

I'm talking proof. Not some story made up because the evidence doesn't support the theory we are married to. But PROOF. Evidence. Something that can be objectively verified.

Where is the proof Dan Kavanaugh is on trial? You insinuate a lot of what the defense has claimed on him to be fact without them producing anything.

That's a double standard.

Merritt is a proven liar and I believe the jury has concluded that much by now. They're not going to believe his other tales weaved together by his defense team.

 

[citygirl]

IF he is convicted and sentenced to death, I believe there are only a few prisons in Ca that house DP Inmates. I've never heard of any Death Row inmates housed with the public. However, I believe DR Inmates are now housed 2 to a cell, if they agree to share a cell?

I met with a young idealistic priest, a Jesuit, who spent last summer ministering to the prisoners at San Quentin. We are on the East Coast. After Mass I was jonesing to get to him. LOL. His sermon was about redemption, of course. I wanted to know if he had met Scott Peterson? He hadn't but knew of him, then reminded me that there are 700 prisoners on death row in the state.

 

[Force Ten]

I was responding to this particular part of your post:



I personally don't think they are going to say they were "flyers". I *think* this is where Bennett comes in....

I have listened to Boles testimony, very intently because without maps, it was pretty hard to follow, but if we are to believe anything that Boles said, he was not "stationary" during those Victorville area hits, I have notes, maybe I can put something coherent together later. So how is his cell phone moving and burying bodies? I haven't decided yet just how much weight should be put on Boles testimony to be honest because of the errors. JMO

He's not moving while burying bodies. Imo he makes the the phone calls while driving after burying them once he thinks he's in the clear.

Though I'm unclear of your inference regarding Bennett.

 

[citygirl]

If he is in Ad-Seg, his recreation will be in the dayroom, not outside. The dayroom will have a shower that Ad-Seg inmates share. An inmate is usually allowed 1 hour a day to exercise, make phone calls and shower in the dayroom. Usually, there are between 16 -32 single cells in one dayroom, depending on the size of his facility. They are also fed through a slot in their door and they eat inside of their cell.[/QUOTE
BBM. No fresh air and sunshine? EVER?

 

[citygirl]

This is why I think this is a better punishment than death.

Chase is obviously older so it will affect him less but if you are even 40 years of age a life inside without parole sounds a lot worse than being fried.[/QUOTE
It sure does. It's all about quality of life. But, at the risk of being spiritual, it does give one time to reflect and have true penitence, true sorrow and regret. And maybe make a difference while in jail? The time to make things right with Our Maker. Were it me? Not sure where I would lean.

 

[citygirl]

Do we have court everyday night week besides Friday?

Hopefully. No guarantees. Could be a big week if the Pros end their CIC. We are at the mercy of L&C to inform us.

 

[asyousay]

We obviously have a very different criminal system in the UK but I just googled and it states it can take up to 16 years to be executed once found guilty so what is the logic of the prosecution doing this as a death penalty case when Chase is what 61/62.?

So I would hazard a guess and say he would die of natural causes before being given the injection if he is indeed found guilty. So it seems strange to me when he is elderly already and the complications that comes with a death penalty trial.

I know some people are really confident that he will be found guilty but I’m still 80/20 he will walk free.

 

[citygirl]

He's not moving while burying bodies. Imo he makes the the phone calls while driving after burying them once he thinks he's in the clear.

Though I'm unclear of your inference regarding Bennett.

If you can answer this off the top of your head (don't go digging) do we have a time frame for the burials? Just give me the cliff notes. TIA
And I am so curious about Bennett. Do you think he will take the stand?

 

[Edmo]

We obviously have a very different criminal system in the UK but I just googled and it states it can take up to 16 years to be executed once found guilty so what is the logic of the prosecution doing this as a death penalty case when Chase is what 61/62.?

So I would hazard a guess and say he would die of natural causes before being given the injection if he is indeed found guilty. So it seems strange to me when he is elderly already and the complications that comes with a death penalty trial.

I know some people are really confident that he will be found guilty but I’m still 80/29 he will walk free.

I can't remember when Calif executed someone from death row?

I know one inmate that hasn't been executed when he was convicted in 1994 !

 

[citygirl]

We obviously have a very different criminal system in the UK but I just googled and it states it can take up to 16 years to be executed once found guilty so what is the logic of the prosecution doing this as a death penalty case when Chase is what 61/62.?

So I would hazard a guess and say he would die of natural causes before being given the injection if he is indeed found guilty. So it seems strange to me when he is elderly already and the complications that comes with a death penalty trial.
Never realized you even had the death penalty in the UK?
Your country has seemed so much more civilized in the past. Not m

any people with guns like here. Lots going on now with stabbings?

I know some people are really confident that he will be found guilty but I’m still 80/29 he will walk free.

No clue how my post disappeared. Must not have been important. Too tired to repost.