CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #2

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Texas Red said:
It was a 2 hour meeting however, it's unknown how much time was spent at the restaurant having lunch. I rememberer reading a few years ago about a nearby warehouse or a storage shed that had been rented by JM's business and something about the lock being changed or someone buying a new lock from the on site manager to replace the old lock that was on the businesses' storage shed on the day in question.
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I just read about that in the search warrants...

The storage facility was in Ponoma.

I couldn't copy, but this link should take you directly to the page about the lock.

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kfmb/misc/mcstay_warrants.pdf#page=131
 
Texas Red said:
It was a 2 hour meeting however, it's unknown how much time was spent at the restaurant having lunch. I rememberer reading a few years ago about a nearby warehouse or a storage shed that had been rented by JM's business and something about the lock being changed or someone buying a new lock from the on site manager to replace the old lock that was on the businesses' storage shed on the day in question.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know there is no proof the meeting actually did happen at Chick-fil-A, correct? The info stems from CM. Is there any other evidence that they actually met there? Such as phone pings at the restaurant or text messages sent about this address location? I feel like it is very possible that they never actually met at that spot.
 
I always felt that Joey's phone tracked back to Fallbrook the day of the lunch, because it was in chases truck heading back to Fallbrook.

I'm still refreshing myself on the details so I apologize if I have anything wrong
 
tmar said:
Could the body be bound, while alive, to witness the attacks on other family members?
Sorry about this gruesome statement, but could this be the reason?
MOO.
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The problem is the time frame for that to happen. By 7.48 when he drove out of the house he had to have done the deed so to speak as he didn’t have much time to pull this off which I am assuming the defense will also use. I very much doubt he would of left any of the family alive when he left the house that first time.
 
SuziQ said:
I always felt that Joey's phone tracked back to Fallbrook the day of the lunch, because it was in chases truck heading back to Fallbrook.

I'm still refreshing myself on the details so I apologize if I have anything wrong
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Yes I think so too as can anybody confirm this as I’m sure Summer called him on the way home but he never answered the phone to her. He checked the voice mail she left but why would you not just call her back instead?


I think Chase had the phone at that stage personally.
 
ScorpioRising said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know there is no proof the meeting actually did happen at Chick-fil-A, correct? The info stems from CM. Is there any other evidence that they actually met there? Such as phone pings at the restaurant or text messages sent about this address location? I feel like it is very possible that they never actually met at that spot.
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I do think both pinged near there. I recall in one of the OS's that Joey was connected to the internet on his phone the whole time as well. JMO since I want to listen and not look it up right now ;-)
 
ScorpioRising said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know there is no proof the meeting actually did happen at Chick-fil-A, correct? The info stems from CM. Is there any other evidence that they actually met there? Such as phone pings at the restaurant or text messages sent about this address location? I feel like it is very possible that they never actually met at that spot.
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LE attempted to retrieve video from Chick-fil-A, however, their attempt was a few day too late and it was no longer available.
 
Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 4m4 minutes ago
#McStay - Both of these photos were taken on Feb. 19th when they entered with a search warrant. Defense atty Maline points out that items have been moved off the counter. DuGal agrees deputies moved items.

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Tortoise said:
- 14 - PROSECUTOR'S OPENING SPEECH


MERRITT CONTACTS SUSAN BLAKE, GOES TO FALLBROOK & HITS THE CASINOS

February 9th the defendant goes to Susan Blake’s house, it’s a Tuesday, says ‘Hey I can’t get a hold of your son Jo do you know anything I don’t know, I’m gonna go down there’ and his cell phone goes down there and accesses towers in the Fallbrook area for about an hour and a half. And then after that it accesses towers near the Pala Casino for about eight hours.

Remember how I said earlier on about the playing the victim and all of that, that came to light kind of in light of his interview with San Diego county. [video skips] “my rep won’t get paid, that’s not gonna be fun”. [video skips]

Takes out $500 at the San Manuel Casino in Highland.

The next day he takes out $300 at the San Manuel Casino in Highland.

Two weeks later takes out $500 at the Commerce Casino.

Same day takes out another $500 from near the Commerce Casino.

After that another $500 from the San Manuel Casino – but he’s talking about this impact that it’s going to have on his life and, you know, his wife she’s worried too because Joseph was the primary source of IDesign [?]’s income. [inaudible recording].


FEBRUARY 6TH MERRITT'S CELL PHONE IN MOUNTAINS NEAR GRAVESITES


Promised we’ll go back to February 6th. February 6th was a Saturday, [video skips] 1.30 pm the defendant [video skips] contacting towers, remember earlier on I said over to the right here is the geographical location of those towers, those were again analysed by Kevin Boles of the FBI and he can look at the location and the azimuth - that is the direction cell towers go certain sectors, there’s a sector for a certain number of degrees, that’s what the cell phone contacts off of - between 10.46 am and 1.30 pm the defendant’s cell phone is contacting towers in the [video skips] .

In particular 11.30 am to 11.52 and 1.30 pm he’s on a tower he’s contacting a tower which is on top of this mountain here on the right of this photograph. Here’s a photograph of that cell tower from the grave site. [video skips] - two days after the family was murdered.

CONCLUDES

Ladies and Gentlemen we talked a little bit about in jury selection and Mr Imes talked to you about unanswered questions. There will be some in this case. We can’t tell you whether or not someone helped the defendant either during the commission of the crime or after. Certainly it would suggest two grown people need to be moved, we can’t answer all of the questions, but we can answer the who, [video skips] he was ripping off his ‘best friend’ and got caught and we can tell you that the evidence is going to show in this case that the only person in this case that’s associated with the McStays that had a connection to the High Desert is the defendant. Everyone else is San Diego county, Riverside county, Orange county. The only connection to the High Desert in this case is that man right there. We can tell you the how, we can tell you the why, and we can tell you the who, and at the end of this case we’re going to give a closing argument and we’re going to ask you to find him guilty and to hold him accountable. Thank you.
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Wow Tortoise.
Thanks for all your hard work.
It is terrific.:):):):)
 
Mony Mony said:
IMO, Dugul left a lot of loose ends. Didn't even test the apple??? Maybe i watch to much TV, but i would have thought that would have been tested. I believe CM is guilty, I just hope the prosecution can prove it.
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or the stain on the carpet? It was implied before that it was bleach... the defense is implying it was maybe paint from the kids "helping".

They were getting the carpet torn out and were replacing the flooring, so I doubt the McStay's were that concerned about it at the time if it was just paint. jmo
 
Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 6m6 minutes ago
#McStay - This apple was on the floor on the 19th. Maline asks if DuGal attempted to get DNA/genetic materials evidence from the apple. He said he didn't see evidentiary value in collecting something that was going to rot.

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Cathy Russon on Twitter

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 4m4 minutes ago
#McStay - Cross exam: DuGal said he never went to the storage pods that had the family's belongings in it. ( Eventually all of those items were auctioned off. )

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Just want to confirm what I believe I heard DuGal testify to: When asked if DK provided proof of his trip to Hawaii, the Detective replied that DK gave him a confirmation of a booked airline flight? Is that what everyone else heard?
 
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