Force Ten
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Totally agree. Belittle our views that are largely rooted in facts, to THEN follow it up with completely erroneous rumor about family members selling off household items for financial gain. You lose a great deal of credibility going in directions that have zero viability or value.Thank you.
I'm confused.
Why would we not use CM to describe the killer when he is the one on trial???
I've never seen such a thing happen the entire time I've followed murder trials here and elsewhere.
The name of the one on trial is used in every trial to describe the killer so somehow it's supposed to be different for CM? I truly don't understand that or why.
As for the presumption of innocence that has long passed.
That is only the judicial standard the jury must go by before testimony starts being entered.
When they first sitdown defendants have that presumption before any testimony is heard. That is why they are told during jury instructions that openings and closings aren't evidence.
The presumption of innocence legally can erode away at anytime during the trial depending on the witnesses testifying that begins to sway that presumption
If the presumption of innocence lasted throughtout the trial then we wouldn't ever have fast verdicts. I have seen one murder trial have a verdict of guilty in 15 minutes which means the presumption no longer held up when it started at the beginning, and probably hadn't shortly after the witnesses started testifying and it kept crumbling.
As for believing he is totally innocent shocks me somewhat with the incriminating evidence in its totality that has already been entered,
I do respect whatever anyone wants to believe.
I would be very interested in knowing what facts have been entered thus far that convinces anyone he is a completely innocent man.
Being innocent, and being found NG aren't legally anything alike. No one is ever found innocent during any criminal trial.
Often in other cases when the jury speaks out after finding a defendant guilty it can be one of the earlier witnesses they heard from that they said was most compelling in finding them guilty so that shows in many cases the presumption doesn't last for very long.
Imo