Found Deceased CA - Jolissa Fuentes, 22, Selma, 7 Aug 2022

[Cuoco7]

I've always been really surprised that AWP was called out to this case so soon. I know she's been missing for almost a month but it just seemed weird that they were called in already. Why it was assumed she was in water almost immediately? Did they check every single neighborhood, business parking lot, or side street between her house and where her phone pinged? Also, all heavily wooded areas or any steep drop offs that she would have driven past. I just think maybe her car is sitting somewhere, on land, waiting to be found. I can't say I believe one theory or another. This is a very strange situation. It seems she was under the influence the night she went missing. She also had plans to smoke. Mixing the two can have some really horrible side effects. Car accident? Foul play? Self harm? There's really just not enough information out there. I hope that she is ok wherever she is and that she reaches out to family so they can stop worrying about her.

Yes, I am also wondering how extensive the land searches have been. Has every single left and right been checked off the main road she drove off on, after the AM/PM? I would imagine the family is doing this in their searches. This poor family.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I was wondering about that too @airyberry.
Could Jolissa have been caught in a turf war? Is there a predominant gang or several?

Possibly turned down the wrong street or mistaken for someone else?

I remember a case in Houston where some gang members shot into a car thinking it was someone that they had clashed with earlier and killed a young child.
JMO

 

[cvaldez1975]

What can you tell us about the gang culture in Selma/Sanger/surrounding areas? Do people just disappear over there often? Do you know what kind of things typically warrant some kind of retaliation or potential foul play like this?

that is primarily FBD area. (fresno bulldogs) the area is def active, but they arent as organized or sophisticated as cartels etc. i havent heard a lot of kidnapping family members. usually if something like that went down its a drive by. there have been errant enemies or members who have turned up murdered in a field tho.

sanger is known as the chankla. it was pretty rough out there and in calwa.

retaliation is for the usual, snitching, burning someone of drugs.

 

[ThriftySolitude]

I've always been really surprised that AWP was called out to this case so soon. I know she's been missing for almost a month but it just seemed weird that they were called in already. Why it was assumed she was in water almost immediately? Did they check every single neighborhood, business parking lot, or side street between her house and where her phone pinged? Also, all heavily wooded areas or any steep drop offs that she would have driven past. I just think maybe her car is sitting somewhere, on land, waiting to be found. I can't say I believe one theory or another. This is a very strange situation. It seems she was under the influence the night she went missing. She also had plans to smoke. Mixing the two can have some really horrible side effects. Car accident? Foul play? Self harm? There's really just not enough information out there. I hope that she is ok wherever she is and that she reaches out to family so they can stop worrying about her.

I didn’t really know much about AWP and was curious on their process and what they do so I watched some of their videos this weekend and I got the impression that if they were on there way to or in the area of a cold case they were going to work on, that if someone went missing very recently in the area that they would assist if they could. I’m thinking maybe that’s why they helped with looking for Jolissa.

My guess is they were possibly already going to help search for Annette Adams, went to look for Kiely and since Selma is sort of on the way to San Luis Obispo they stopped to do what they can for Jolissa.

 

[ThriftySolitude]

I get that but according to the available information…LE hasn’t spent a significant amount of time searching for her so she COULD be anywhere. The water wouldn’t be my first guess. They need to be getting a large ground crew to search. Not water. JMO.

I think AWP searched lakes because according to LE her phone last pinged in the Avocado Lake area

 

[ThriftySolitude]

Yes, I am also wondering how extensive the land searches have been. Has every single left and right been checked off the main road she drove off on, after the AM/PM? I would imagine the family is doing this in their searches. This poor family.

I've seen people commenting in the local FB group that they've gone out with their drones. The family has apparently searched some orchards, not sure how many. I think at this point whoever is searching might have to check every possible route to Avocado Lake and check every canal, ditch, etc.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[imstilla.grandma]

If police were to come into contact with her and she did not want her family to know her whereabouts, Alcaraz said officers would comply but still tell Fuentes' family she is physically okay.

“That has not happened,” Alcaraz said.

He also said that while most of the physical search for Fuentes has been in Fresno County, authorities have received tips “all the way from New Mexico.”

“We’ve been out of the county on several occasions,” Alcaraz said.

Search for missing California woman Jolissa Fuentes is now a criminal investigation, police say

Fuentes, 22, was last seen on video at a convenience store early Aug. 7, Selma police said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Bsc87bsc]

What can you tell us about the gang culture in Selma/Sanger/surrounding areas? Do people just disappear over there often? Do you know what kind of things typically warrant some kind of retaliation or potential foul play like this?

I’m from the valley, and never once heard of someone disappearing and/or being hurt because of a family member’s gang crime (and gang violence is covered pretty regularly in the news there). Like someone else said, gangs around there aren’t as organized as cartels and bigger gangs in CA like ms13. If someone was going to be punished they’d be hurt themselves, not family members.

 

[Biggles]

The timing and mystery of Jolissa's disappearance doesn't make me think of street gang involvement. That time of night, even gangsters are asleep - there's a reason that LE no-knock raids typically happen around 5:00am. And it doesn't send a clear message about turf or disrespect or unpaid debt if you disappear a person but no one knows who's responsible. At that point in early August, twilight begins around 5:30am, so if you ARE a gang member who is willing to commit a capital crime and who is now in need of a good place to hide evidence including a vehicle, you've lost all the benefit of doing this under the cover of darkness. This isn't to say it's impossible, but a lot of things have to go right for such a series of criminal acts to go down without leaving a shred of evidence to be found three weeks later.

Welp, that's my thinking at this stage. And I'm happy to admit I've been wrong before; the Cary Stayner murders always pop into my head whenever I start saying "this seems highly improbable" because of course that chain of events was the very height of implausibility, and yet it all really happened. In this case, I've been hoping Jolissa and her car were down an embankment or in dense brush (or both), hidden from view, and someone was going to spot her and rescue her. Still hoping, but time isn't on our side.

 

[annpats]

Jolissa didn't have Instagram, snapchat, or Google set up so they are working with very little data. Her Facebook logins didn't show anything.

It's quite unusual for a young person of 22 not to use Snapchat and Instagram.
She seemed to have a reasonable active social life with family etc. but it's unusual just to still use text messages to communicate. She lived with her Grandma, so maybe it was just easier for her too, so the whole family just did it?

Perhaps she just wasn't reliant on her phone as some others are. You can't really use many Google apps without signing up and being logged in, so perhaps she just didn't use maps, and all the other Google things.

Maybe she just lived a more simple life? And although it's unusual, I like it. I like that Jolissa had a life that wasn't dictated by social media.

MOO.

 

[annpats]

Selma Police Chief Rudy Alcaraz told Fox News: “We picked her up on camera after that. However, we’re not going to relinquish that information, as we…have to kind of consider all avenues,” he said. “Right now, there’s nothing that is insinuating foul play, but, again, we don’t have much information.”

Well, if there's nothing insinuating foul play, why not share with the public where the later sighting(s) of her/her car on camera were???

 

[Knox]

I don't think this is gang related either. But foul play is still a realistic possibility, either as a crime of opportunity with a stranger. Or someone she knew and connected with after leaving AM/PM.

Right now I'm squarely in the 50/50 range of the above or a yet to be discovered car accident.

Based on what her family says, Jolissa isn't a candidate for leaving and not letting her family know she's safe.

I wish LE would give more details on the phone forensics so we would know more about that last ping. Hopefully they are able to narrow the triangulation down for search efforts.

 

[Coppertop15]

Lots of gang stuff here, but ....not the disappearing type. Stabbings and drive bys, more like. Lots of non-LE land searches. It's really hard though, because the foot hills are very hard to search without something pinging. I kind of get the impression that she was just doing wifi calling. So many dead zones out there. So many hills, turns, and thick brush.

 

[Tired Professor]

I feel like everything is so vague in this situation but if I am understanding correctly, she grabbed a bag and money, left on her own with a car that still hasn’t been found and it didn’t seem that she wanted to be alone because she wanted her brother to come with her and when he couldn’t, she was trying to FaceTime people. I can’t help but wonder if she is on the run. Perhaps she witnessed something or had a large debt to someone coming due and was fearful for her safety. That is about the only way I could see a gang being involved here.

 

[Stunned]

The bag and the money are standing out too me. What was in the bag? Pot? Something else? What was she gonna buy with the money? Pot? Something else?
She didn't use cash at the store. I find it curious.
IMO

 

[annpats]

she wanted her brother to come with her and when he couldn’t, she was trying to FaceTime people.

It was nearly 4am, surely everyone else must've been in bed trying to sleep...?!

The fact she was contacting people at that bizarre time makes me feel she was desperate for someone to talk to or connect with.

I'm starting to wonder if she felt a bit rejected and lonely. When it's the early hours of the morning and you're out and alone, you can sometimes feel isolated and like the only person left in the world....and that can intensify already sad feelings.

I'm not insinuating suicide, but I do think it's a bit odd she was phoning everyone up for company at 4am.

MOO.

 

[getthefax]

I've always been really surprised that AWP was called out to this case so soon. I know she's been missing for almost a month but it just seemed weird that they were called in already. Why it was assumed she was in water almost immediately? Did they check every single neighborhood, business parking lot, or side street between her house and where her phone pinged? Also, all heavily wooded areas or any steep drop offs that she would have driven past. I just think maybe her car is sitting somewhere, on land, waiting to be found. I can't say I believe one theory or another. This is a very strange situation. It seems she was under the influence the night she went missing. She also had plans to smoke. Mixing the two can have some really horrible side effects. Car accident? Foul play? Self harm? There's really just not enough information out there. I hope that she is ok wherever she is and that she reaches out to family so they can stop worrying about her.

I think it might have been a consequence of their having been in the area for the Rodni search, and perhaps wanting to show the Fuentes family some love.
Jolissa has been missing since before Kiely Rodni went missing, but has not had nearly the press or the massive response (there are a number of possible reasons for this, namely that KR was a missing minor, etc.). I think it was good of AWP to come soon.

One thing I'm starting to think-- I know LE wants to preserve all the facts of a case in the event they someday must prosecute, but with so many people willing to help in the search, I am starting to wonder whether we might evolve some new strategies to release a bit more information to help the legions who want to help find the missing. In Jolissa's case, LE says they have additional data but aren't sharing it -- I hope it is not data that would help us go find her.

 

[Tired Professor]

It was nearly 4am, surely everyone else must've been in bed trying to sleep...?!

The fact she was contacting people at that bizarre time makes me feel she was desperate for someone to talk to or connect with.

I'm starting to wonder if she felt a bit rejected and lonely. When it's the early hours of the morning and you're out and alone, you can sometimes feel isolated and like the only person left in the world....and that can intensify already sad feelings.

I'm not insinuating suicide, but I do think it's a bit odd she was phoning everyone up for company at 4am.

MOO.

Yes that crossed my mind too. The only people that I know that would call at that hour were intoxicated but I don’t think there was any reason to believe she was. Maybe she was having some sort of emergency? She did look somewhat unsteady and flung the door open at AMPM but knowing may have smoked weed maybe it gives a similar effect?

 

[getthefax]

Yes that crossed my mind too. The only people that I know that would call at that hour were intoxicated but I don’t think there was any reason to believe she was. Maybe she was having some sort of emergency? She did look somewhat unsteady and flung the door open at AMPM but knowing may have smoked weed maybe it gives a similar effect?

Not sure if this is allowed, but on the official Find Jolissa FB page, Jolissa's family members indicated that she went to the convenience store to buy a wrap so she could smoke that evening.

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