Found Deceased CA - Jolissa Fuentes, 22, Selma, 7 Aug 2022

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It was nearly 4am, surely everyone else must've been in bed trying to sleep...?!

The fact she was contacting people at that bizarre time makes me feel she was desperate for someone to talk to or connect with.

I'm starting to wonder if she felt a bit rejected and lonely. When it's the early hours of the morning and you're out and alone, you can sometimes feel isolated and like the only person left in the world....and that can intensify already sad feelings.

I'm not insinuating suicide, but I do think it's a bit odd she was phoning everyone up for company at 4am.

MOO.
Self harm did cross my mind a few times. I guess because she was still mourning two recent deaths of close friends.

And her reaching out to people at 4 am to meet up. It seemed kind of odd and felt like she really didnt want to be alone. Most people can end the party by 4 or 4:30 and go home and have cereal and get to sleep. It seemed she was still amped up and I wonder if that was usual for her, or was it unusual, and indicated something different that night.
 
"I definitely think she's a victim of a crime," Nunez told The U.S. Sun on Monday. "I strongly believe someone has her.

"But I don't think she's dead. I don't feel that. Her grandma doesn't feel that.

"I think she's in trouble and she needs us to find her."

"She's not in the water," her mom said. "But now we're searching the area and the mountains between Sanger and Selma."

The area around the cities of Sanger and Selma is a vast countryside with woods and lakes that neighbor several mountains.

They set up an online, interactive map to coordinate the search efforts.
Jolissa stopped at a gas station to purchase snacks on her way home, according to her parents
 
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It was nearly 4am, surely everyone else must've been in bed trying to sleep...?!

The fact she was contacting people at that bizarre time makes me feel she was desperate for someone to talk to or connect with.

I'm starting to wonder if she felt a bit rejected and lonely. When it's the early hours of the morning and you're out and alone, you can sometimes feel isolated and like the only person left in the world....and that can intensify already sad feelings.

I'm not insinuating suicide, but I do think it's a bit odd she was phoning everyone up for company at 4am.

MOO.
I agree that early morning hours can feel isolating. I feel like 2 am through 6am can feel lonely but that's just my opinion.
 
"I definitely think she's a victim of a crime," Nunez told The U.S. Sun on Monday. "I strongly believe someone has her.

"But I don't think she's dead. I don't feel that. Her grandma doesn't feel that.

"I think she's in trouble and she needs us to find her."

SBM
I wonder if this is the family hoping she's out there and will be returned home at some point, or whether they have reason to believe she's being held somewhere

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I was surprised that JF's sister used the past tense when talking about her.
I think this happens a lot. Always seems like a red flag, but it often turns out that the person speaking in past tense just thinks the worst has happened (even if they don't publicly admit that is what they think...). All MOO, just amateur speculation here.
 
What I'm not hearing here is history on the early morning communications. Was this something out of the ordinary? OR was Jolissa known to send out these communications after a late night? Why? Because if this is way out of her normal behavior, self harm moves up my list of scenarios. If this is just something Jolissa does and her sister and brother have it happen so many times they just roll over and go back to sleep, then accident or foul play moves up the list for me. Which ever it is both are still on my list of probabilities.
 
The timing and mystery of Jolissa's disappearance doesn't make me think of street gang involvement. That time of night, even gangsters are asleep - there's a reason that LE no-knock raids typically happen around 5:00am. And it doesn't send a clear message about turf or disrespect or unpaid debt if you disappear a person but no one knows who's responsible. At that point in early August, twilight begins around 5:30am, so if you ARE a gang member who is willing to commit a capital crime and who is now in need of a good place to hide evidence including a vehicle, you've lost all the benefit of doing this under the cover of darkness. This isn't to say it's impossible, but a lot of things have to go right for such a series of criminal acts to go down without leaving a shred of evidence to be found three weeks later.

Welp, that's my thinking at this stage. And I'm happy to admit I've been wrong before; the Cary Stayner murders always pop into my head whenever I start saying "this seems highly improbable" because of course that chain of events was the very height of implausibility, and yet it all really happened. In this case, I've been hoping Jolissa and her car were down an embankment or in dense brush (or both), hidden from view, and someone was going to spot her and rescue her. Still hoping, but time isn't on our side.
Oh man, the CS case still haunts me. That creep is still at San Quentin.
 
There are searches up near Avocado and Pine Flat lakes. I thought that was where LE said her phone last pinged. Then I read this article.

The article states:
"Investigators were initially able to trace her cell hone data to nearby Sanger, Alcaraz said, and searched areas northeast of Selma in the Avocado Lake and Pine Flat Lake areas."

Sanger, per Google Maps is north of Selma and about 13 miles away. That would seem to be quite a distance from those lakes. I suppose the key word here is 'initially', meaning they found a later ping near the lakes. I'm wondering if somewhere in Sanger holds the key to all this.
 
I feel like everything is so vague in this situation but if I am understanding correctly, she grabbed a bag and money, left on her own with a car that still hasn’t been found and it didn’t seem that she wanted to be alone because she wanted her brother to come with her and when he couldn’t, she was trying to FaceTime people. I can’t help but wonder if she is on the run. Perhaps she witnessed something or had a large debt to someone coming due and was fearful for her safety. That is about the only way I could see a gang being involved here.
It's also complicated by the fact that we don't know who if anyone saw her at the house, how do we know these things were missing at her hand, and further how much money was it. 20-50 isn't debt money, but 300 500 is. Something must have left her feeling fearful if like you said, she was trying to reach out to someone to be with her and calling her siblings when everyone is asleep. I was saying earlier, when I am in trouble the first people I call are my brothers. I think a lot of us who have siblings call on them when we need help too.
 
The going alone to go smoke is concerning since it’s been stated she doesn’t do that.
Why was it so important to drive all the way out to the orchards just to smoke?
Especially at 4am after potentially drinking at a party? Why not put on your comfy clothes and have a smoke on the porch/deck/back yard? I’d be ready to chill and then go to bed. JMO
 
Someone pointed out earilier that even though she came home to get money it appeared she used a card at the AMPM. So she needed cash for something else? Her sister said it wasn't for marijuana because she already had some. If she was going to pay at the store with her card, why bother to get cash?
 
The going alone to go smoke is concerning since it’s been stated she doesn’t do that.
Why was it so important to drive all the way out to the orchards just to smoke?
Especially at 4am after potentially drinking at a party? Why not put on your comfy clothes and have a smoke on the porch/deck/back yard? I’d be ready to chill and then go to bed. JMO
I wonder if her grandmother was not OK with the pot around the house. But if that is the case, she could have walked down the street instead of driving 15-30 miles away. (I know marijuana is legal there, but I don't know the law about smoking it in public.) The 4 AM driving after drinking is concerning. I haven't heard about what state she was in when she left the party, but the way she walked out of the AMPM and the manner in which she opened her car door makes me wonder.
 
what if she was desperate to get it and so bought cash from home so that when she went to AM/PM she can use both cash and card (either) for transanctions?
jmo
 
"We were able to determine that Miss Fuentes' phone traversed through the city of Sanger and up into the Avocado Lake and Pine Flat area," he said.

The Fresno County sheriff, Fresno Police Department and the FBI are part of the search for Fuentes, Alcaraz said.

Selma has a population of 24,400 and is about 17 miles southeast of Fresno.

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Someone pointed out earilier that even though she came home to get money it appeared she used a card at the AMPM. So she needed cash for something else? Her sister said it wasn't for marijuana because she already had some. If she was going to pay at the store with her card, why bother to get cash?

Just a thought. Blunts are $1.10 where I live for 4 (Zig Zag Blunt Rolls), I'm not from Cali so can't confirm, but my store is also $3 and above you HAVE to use cash... Strictly on principal I pay cash because #1 I don't have a medical card and I like to pay for my drugs and paraphernalia in cash and #2- I'm not giving the store 6% even if that is only .07. Would I stop home to get change or cash, ABSOLUTELY but I'm cheap, I don't think the average person would care.
 

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