I think this is still a very strong possibility. After years of diving I can tell you that you often have to be right on top of a submerged object to find it underwater. Even an object like a car can be invisible only a foot or two away. Now consider that it may be upside-down and partially silted-over.
Of course all the other possibilities people have mentioned are valid as well, since we have no evidence what happened to her after 12:33am.
She was at-risk on a number of fronts: risk from driving herself, risk from drug/alcohol overdose, risk from exploitation of her condition by creeps, risk of any number of poor decisions.
I was trying to find some back roads yesterday and found this site which archives prior publications. This site may be interesting for locals.MOO there is another possibility to an accident location.
If intoxicated, may have taking any number of back roads home in order to avoid Truckee traffic, I80 and any LE. It can be hard to spot a silver vehicle the type of forest around the area.
Source? I'm not finding any California state curfew laws for minors.Entirely possible, since at her age, it was illegal for her to be driving at that time of night
Unless the sweatshirt was borrowed from a party-goer who hasn’t yet come forward. Someone who was in close contact with Kiely at the party.
Also an item to simply BOLO for along roadsides, in the woods, or being currently worn by someone else.
No curfew laws for minors. California law doesn’t allow drivers to drive between 11:00 pm and 5:00 a.m. until they are 17 years oldSource? I'm not finding any California state curfew laws for minors.
WE WOULD GO BACK TO HER CAR TO GET SOME ALCOHOL SOMETIMES & THEN WE WENT TO HER CAR TO CHARGE HER PHONE.A few other random thoughts:
It seems, from what I can gather so far that KR’s last phone call was to SS. Seems ill advised to have the last known contact be heading up the search, and being the filter of tips in my mind.
Police state they are only interested in finding KR but also state they want the fight video. Unless KR was involved in that fight, they are sending a mixed message in my opinion. Someone with information may hesitate to step forward based on that mixed message.
AH, it's a provisional license. Gotcha.No curfew laws for minors. California law doesn’t allow drivers to drive between 11:00 pm and 5:00 a.m. until they are 17 years old
During the first 12 months after you are licensed, you cannot drive between 11 p.m. and 5 a.m. and cannot transport passengers under 20 years old, unless accompanied by a California-licensed parent or guardian, a California-licensed driver 25 years old or older, or a licensed or certified driving instructor.
When you become 18 years old, the “provisional” part of your DL ends. You may keep your provisional photo DL or pay a fee for a duplicate DL without the word “provisional.”
SS is not “heading up the search”.A few other random thoughts:
It seems, from what I can gather so far that KR’s last phone call was to SS. Seems ill advised to have the last known contact be heading up the search, and being the filter of tips in my mind.
Police state they are only interested in finding KR but also state they want the fight video. Unless KR was involved in that fight, they are sending a mixed message in my opinion. Someone with information may hesitate to step forward based on that mixed message.
There is also a possibility that she did try and drive home and made it pretty far. I am not local but just a quick Google Map search shows a number of places where you could make a simple error (if you were drunk). If she missed her exit and didn't realize it she may have ended up pretty far from where people are expecting her to be. She may have tried to turn around in an unfamiliar area. She could just as easily be in Donner Lake for example as in Prosser Reservoir.I was trying to find some back roads yesterday and found this site which archives prior publications. This site may be interesting for locals.
During the first 12 months after you are licensed, you cannot drive between 11 p.m. and 5 a.m. and cannot transport passengers under 20 years old, unless accompanied by a California-licensed parent or guardian, a California-licensed driver 25 years old or older, or a licensed or certified driving instructor.Source? I'm not finding any California state curfew laws for minors.
AH, it's a provisional license. Gotcha.
From the California DMV website:
Seems like, from what we've heard, a lot of the people leaving the party at or around 12:30 AM would be in violation of this rule. MOO.
AH, it's a provisional license. Gotcha.
From the California DMV website:
Seems like, from what we've heard, a lot of the people leaving the party at or around 12:30 AM would be in violation of this rule. MOO.
Poor choice of words on my part. I believe she was the one speaking to the press and telling parents not to drop their kids off unattended to search and that lots of people were calling her with information that she was passing on to LE, FBI etcSS is not “heading up the search”.
MOO there is another possibility to an accident location.
If intoxicated, may have taking any number of back roads home in order to avoid Truckee traffic, I80 and any LE. It can be hard to spot a silver vehicle the type of forest around the area.
So if Kiely got her permit at age 15 and a half, and she will turn 17 on September 1, she could have already been driving 12 months, right? I find provisionals confusing.
This is the scenario I truly want to be the case and I can totally see how hard it would be to fix it if I was a teenage girl.It’s still at least a possibility that she backed herself into a situation and doesn’t know how to extricate herself. Not likely, but not impossible, either.
So if Kiely got her permit at age 15 and a half, and she will turn 17 on September 1, she could have already been driving 12 months, right? I find provisionals confusing.
If there wasn’t an accident that happened shortly after midnight, could Kiely have gone on to a second party location with her phone turned off, even on purpose?