Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #4

[crhedBngr]

^RSBM - I’m a bit confused by the statement that dive teams have been exhausted and they’re confident in what they have ruled out, vs. AWP is there now and searching again. Patiently waiting….

Doug Bishop said that he and his team is ready to join the search for Kiely Rodni, 16.

“What we bring to the table is a fresh set of eyes and unorthodox level of search tactics that have allowed us to become successful,” he said.

“Unfortunately, almost everyone that we find is in areas we have already searched. And again, that goes back to the rare skill set that we have,” Bishop said.

Bring that rare skill set on!!!

JMVHO.

 

[MsBetsy]

This is my current theory as well:
- KR makes plans to drive SS home
- SS finds another ride *without* telling KR or saying goodbye
- KR waits around, then around 12:25 (10 min after they were supposed to meet) calls SS to ask where she is because it's time to go home but SS is nowhere to be found
- when she finds out KR is missing, SS tries to "soften" the story of how she left KR there alone by saying she said goodbye in person before leaving, but in the process messes up the timeline by placing the phone call at 12:36 (11 minutes after supposedly saying goodbye), perhaps before finding out that KR's phone last pinged at 12:33

MOO. (Not trying to disparage anyone, just to figure out possible explanations for the timeline inconsistencies.)

In the last Press Conference, LE stated that it's possible, due to lost data, that the phone continued to ping after 12:30 am. He said there are many reasons why the notifications or data points could be lost.

So is it possible that Kiely did call SS at 12:36 am, but the data was lost?

 

[MissChanandlerBong]

Will they be checking several places, or just one?

They have said they will be searching “all” waterways, 2 boats, 6 people…usually they work within a 5 mile radius of last cellphone ping. They work with families on determining other spots of interest too though.

 

[SMK777]

They have said they will be searching “all” waterways, 2 boats, 6 people…usually they work within a 5 mile radius of last cellphone ping. They work with families on determining other spots of interest too though.

Thanks, very glad to hear that.

 

[SteveP]

Will they be checking several places, or just one?

While AWP is searching Prosser Reservoir today, if nothing has been found there when they have finished, it sounds as if they plan to search other reservoirs and waterways. At about the 2:35 mark of this video, the gentleman from AWP says they "will be utilizing two boats in all the different waterways we are going to be in". I am cautiously optimistic that if her car is in water, if anyone can find it, they can. JMO

YouTuber dive team joining search for Kiely Rodni

Divers from a popular YouTube channel have joined the search for 16-year-old Kiely Rodni, who has been missing for nearly two weeks.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[RedHaus]

The following is speculation based on SS’s statements to msm:
I think KR was waiting by her car at 12:15 am, probably alone, for SS. At 11:00 pm when SS and “others” were in KR’s car, they made plans for KR to drive SS home. They separated when they got out of the car, but did they agree to meet back there at 12:15? KR texted her Mom around 11:30 and asked if she could have a curfew extension and she would leave the party at 12:15. Mom said okay.
I think SS went back to KR’s car 10 minutes late. SS said she said goodbye to KR in person at 12:25 and told her she was getting a ride with someone else. She said she felt KR was too intoxicated to drive. That would have left KR alone and vulnerable at or near her car about 8 minutes before her phone was shut off or died. Thoughts?

I was pondering some of these this morning, to also include a voluntary disappearance. I can't explain why the possibility of a voluntary disappearance moved up my list other than maybe a gut feeling. Also, #3 is one I've thought more about today. Exactly when she left is not really known since LE has stated they've yet to hear from anyone who saw her leave. Along those lines, though, if she left earlier I can't explain the 12:33 ping showing her phone in the area. #5 gives me pause. If most of the high schoolers she knew had curfews might they have left earlier leaving mostly an older crowd she didn't really know?

The voluntary disappearance is one that has hit me today. Could she be somewhere else? LE has to have looked at bank or credit activity.

If you put it like this it sound plausible. It could have gone like this. I read nowhere SS and KR made a solid arrangement to meet each other at 12:15 at KR's car (where was it parked btw). As SS seems so "pointy" about the timeline in her statements, why would she leave away an agreement like this out of her statements. It would have made her whole story much more logical. But my guess is she didn't show up at all or couldn't find KR and just left, being maybe "wasted" herself. This would mean the saying goodbye in person at 12:25 didn't took place.This could be the reason for the phone call from KR to SS at 12.36 (still strange because KR phone supposedly shut off or died just before that, correct me if I'm wrong) where KR asks "where are you"? I'm sure LE checked this last call, but nobody knows what was actually said. And Kiely ended up alone...all kind of things could have happened.

This is my current theory as well:
- KR makes plans to drive SS home
- SS finds another ride *without* telling KR or saying goodbye
- KR waits around, then around 12:25 (10 min after they were supposed to meet) calls SS to ask where she is because it's time to go home but SS is nowhere to be found
- when she finds out KR is missing, SS tries to "soften" the story of how she left KR there alone by saying she said goodbye in person before leaving, but in the process messes up the timeline by placing the phone call at 12:36 (11 minutes after supposedly saying goodbye), perhaps before finding out that KR's phone last pinged at 12:33

MOO. (Not trying to disparage anyone, just to figure out possible explanations for the timeline inconsistencies.)

Great sleuthing! Not sure I can add much and I don't want to be duplicative in my musings, but here are my thoughts:

A. I think something got messed up with communication between some teens about leaving and who was driving, etc.
B. I suspect intoxication from one substance or another is the root behind confusing recollection and miscommunication
C. I wonder if KR had in fact hooked up with an older crowd, or an older person at the party (she may have expected)
D. That may have happened after her younger friends had already left - perhaps she intentionally stayed behind
E. She could, as someone opined earlier, turned off (or airplane mode) her phone to avoid tracking by Mom to stay longer
F. An older crowd may have meant harder drugs, more sexual advances, and access to more places (e.g. houses, bars)
G. She may have lost track of time, she was having a lot of fun, it got very late, and then finally decided to leave
H. How and when she left is such a mystery, but I now suspect she did one of four things very late at night:

1. left alone and did not head home - but perhaps to Reno or initiated some other grand 'voluntary departure' plan
2. left with someone else (either one driving her car) - and together they initiate KR's voluntary disappearance
3. left with someone else offering to drive her car - maybe his/her buddy was driving another car to wherever
4. left with others, but KR was driving her own car - they went to wherever (a house, casino, bar, a park, etc.)

The more the teens at the party don't talk, the more I suspect KR stayed late at the party with an older crowd. In fact, there may very little picture or video taking with an older crowd (more stealthy in their partying). So LE has very little despite their pleas.

And I think Reno has something to do with an 'after Prosser party scenario'... maybe they drove back roads there.

And why KR and her car have not been found of course is the big question... If H3 or H4 above, then its likely a sad ending. If its H1 or H2 then there is hope she is still alive as long as she is able to survive whatever is happening to her or that she's doing.

ALL IMO!!!

Edited to clean up typos, clarify points.

 

[rosesfromangels]

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Will they be checking several places, or just one?

They are very scientific in their approach. They will examine the water flow, and determine how far a vehicle could drift from initial impact which they also calculate based on a variety of different factors. So, they will have a specific range that they will be examining first, and then likely branch out if they don’t find anything
And yes, I think they will find her.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[JnRyan]

In the last Press Conference, LE stated that it's possible, due to lost data, that the phone continued to ping after 12:30 am. He said there are many reasons why the notifications or data points could be lost.

So is it possible that SS did call Kiely at 12:36 am, but the data was lost?

I'm not technically savvy when it comes to cell phone technology. Could the 12:33 ping have been KR's cell phone pinging for a tower to connect her call to SS? If so, could 12:36 have been when they hung up?

If the above is true - and again I'm not a cell phone technician - KR's phone might not have pinged again as long she stayed in that general area of that particular cell tower. IOW, it was on for some time after 12:33 there just wasn't an event that required the phone to have ping activity. That could mean her phone was turned off later. Someone who knows about this better than me - when you turn off your cell phone or when it shuts down due to low battery does it send out a last ping?

 

[Bit of hope]

I'm not technically savvy when it comes to cell phone technology. Could the 12:33 ping have been KR's cell phone pinging for a tower to connect her call to SS? If so, could 12:36 have been when they hung up?

If the above is true - and again I'm not a cell phone technician - KR's phone might not have pinged again as long she stayed in that general area of that particular cell tower. IOW, it was on for some time after 12:33 there just wasn't an event that required the phone to have ping activity. That could mean her phone was turned off later. Someone who knows about this better than me - when you turn off your cell phone or when it shuts down due to low battery does it send out a last ping?

There is so much on here about pings and phones I lost track of it...somehow this info doesn't stick in my head. Sorry. BTW I think Kiely called SS and not the other way around like is stated in the post you quoted.

 

[SMK777]

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They are very scientific in their approach. They will examine the water flow, and determine how far a vehicle could drift from initial impact which they also calculate based on a variety of different factors. So, they will have a specific range that they will be examining first, and then likely branch out if they don’t find anything
And yes, I think they will find her.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Thanks so much for the encouraging information.

 

[MassGuy]

This is my current theory as well:
- KR makes plans to drive SS home
- SS finds another ride *without* telling KR or saying goodbye
- KR waits around, then around 12:25 (10 min after they were supposed to meet) calls SS to ask where she is because it's time to go home but SS is nowhere to be found
- when she finds out KR is missing, SS tries to "soften" the story of how she left KR there alone by saying she said goodbye in person before leaving, but in the process messes up the timeline by placing the phone call at 12:36 (11 minutes after supposedly saying goodbye), perhaps before finding out that KR's phone last pinged at 12:33

MOO. (Not trying to disparage anyone, just to figure out possible explanations for the timeline inconsistencies.)

It messes up the timeline for us, but it wouldn't do that for law enforcement. They'd know exactly when/if that phone call was placed.

In the end, the public not knowing the precise timeline isn't of concern to law enforcement.

 

[RedHaus]

OK, I don't know if People Magazine doesn't have their facts straight but they are saying Kiely was last SEEN at ABOUT 12:30. This is reported twice by them on 08 and 19 August.

16-Year-Old Calif. Girl Vanished After Attending Party at Campground, Police Treating It as Abduction

A special tip line has been launched as the search for Kiely Rodni enters its second day

people.com

Police Say Teens at Party with Missing Kiely Rodni Are Being Uncooperative: 'People Aren't Talking to Us'

Authorities have been searching for the missing 16-year-old for nearly two weeks

people.com

I suppose in among all the updates and news I missed this. I know two other events are mentioned around that time. One is supposedly a conversation with SS over the phone at 12:36 and the other is her last phone ping at 12:33. If LE is stating they don't have anyone seeing her leave. (Of course, the article states ABOUT 12:30 so that could be 12:20 to 12:40 or an even larger time span.) That's placing her last sighting and her last phone ping VERY close together. This is, of course, from a media source and not LE.

Interesting, @JnRyan.

I wish People Mag had quoted which investigators and when they reported KR left the party at around 12:30. Dubious?

 

[JnRyan]

There is so much on here about pings and phones I lost track of it...somehow this info doesn't stick in my head. Sorry. BTW I think Kiely called SS and not the other way around like is stated in the post you quoted.

I don't remember where I got the scenario that Kiely called SS, but I agree I thought Kiely called SS.

 

[JnRyan]

Interesting, @JnRyan.

I wish People Mag had quoted which investigators and when they reported KR left the party at around 12:30. Dubious?

WGN (a Chicago station?) reports that as well. I would imagine they are getting it from another media source.

Mystery deepens in search for missing teen Kiely Rodni

It has been 10 days since California 16-year-old Kiely Rodni was last seen, at a massive “senior send-off” party at a campground near Tahoe.

wgntv.com

 

[Bit of hope]

Interesting, @JnRyan.

I wish People Mag had quoted which investigators and when they reported KR left the party at around 12:30. Dubious?

Sometimes MSM copies wrong information and this keeps on spreading. It's so hard to stay on track.

 

[JC40]

I don't remember where I got the scenario that Kiely called SS, but I agree I thought Kiely called SS.

she was not being driven home
and she was not driving

at the end of the party when i saw her, she was supposed to be giving me a ride home because i’d asked her because i wanted to stay later

i then realized later in the party that i believe she was drunk

and i knew she was drunk so i did not want her to be driving me home

because you know i know about drunk drivers and all that

so i figured she would be staying there or she would find a ride home

because she’s a smart girl

smart enough to know, just — she’s smart

and so um then i found her as i was leaving the party

i was making sure to find her to tell her that i had another ride home

and that i loved her and i wanted to say bye and for her to have fund at the party

and then when i left the party; we were pretty much on 89 with my ride and um she called me as i was in the car in the passenger seat

and she was like, “hey, where are you? do you still need a ride home?”

and i was like, “no. i’m okay. i’m in the car right now. i’m getting driven home right now.”

Sami Smith LIVE! Missing 16-year-old Kiely Rodni of Truckee, California. Sami Smith #FindKielyRodni

Sami Smith was interviewed and said about the missing 16-year-old Kiely Rodni: Kiely is one of my close friends. We met thru mutual…

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[JnRyan]

If there is a possibility Kiely did not leave before 1 AM, I'm now wondering, if were talking about something nefarious, it could have occurred at the party. Now I'm starting to wonder who among those who have not come forward knows more. They need to find that car.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

While AWP is searching Prosser Reservoir today, if nothing has been found there when they have finished, it sounds as if they plan to search other reservoirs and waterways. At about the 2:35 mark of this video, the gentleman from AWP says they "will be utilizing two boats in all the different waterways we are going to be in". I am cautiously optimistic that if her car is in water, if anyone can find it, they can. JMO

YouTuber dive team joining search for Kiely Rodni

Divers from a popular YouTube channel have joined the search for 16-year-old Kiely Rodni, who has been missing for nearly two weeks.

www.newsnationnow.com

Good to hear, esp if they head over to the Boca Reservoir, which is so close to Prosser and maybe was less "busy" that evening (no parties), so it may have been an easier location to immerse a car, if that is indeed what happened.

 

[Bit of hope]

This is from the Find Kiely webside #FindKiely | Kiely Rodni | Truckee CA

KIELY RODNI / NIEMAN was last seen at a party in Truckee (Prosser), California on August 6, 2022, 12:30-1 AM. Family and authorities are requesting any information regarding her whereabouts.

LE has another, far more strict, timeline. Only timestamp of the CCTV footage showing Kiely in front of a shop and the last ping. Looking at the sheriffs FB page there isn't an update on that, but I could have missed it.

 

[Warwick7]

This is my current theory as well:
- KR makes plans to drive SS home
- SS finds another ride *without* telling KR or saying goodbye
- KR waits around, then around 12:25 (10 min after they were supposed to meet) calls SS to ask where she is because it's time to go home but SS is nowhere to be found
- when she finds out KR is missing, SS tries to "soften" the story of how she left KR there alone by saying she said goodbye in person before leaving, but in the process messes up the timeline by placing the phone call at 12:36 (11 minutes after supposedly saying goodbye), perhaps before finding out that KR's phone last pinged at 12:33

MOO. (Not trying to disparage anyone, just to figure out possible explanations for the timeline inconsistencies.)

My own parallels with your closely. I wonder if the girls had a disagreement. Maybe that's why SS found a different ride.
Hmmm...