Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #7

[dtowndetective411]

^RSBM
The back seats fold down in most SUVs. She may have had them down to transport items in the back, or if she did plan to sleep in the car. I don’t know about floating, but Kiely was slender and her body should be able to pass through from front to back without exiting the car. I have an even smaller SUV and I can do it.

jmo

Sorry if this has been stated since I’m just catching up, but if the car was upside down, wouldn’t she have to swim underwater under the opening between the headrests and roof? It would be flipped and that would be at the bottom, can’t really float there. Unless it flipped after but it seems like a pretty quick process with the flip?

 

[getthefax]

Not sure if this is allowed, but is a MSM article on the release of the AWP video.

Adventures with Purpose releases video of finding missing Truckee teen Kiely Rodni's body

In the video, Adventure with Purpose's Nick Rinn and Doug Bishop discuss the possibility, with no evidence, that Rodni's death may be suspicious.

www.rgj.com

 

[Sundog]

I think I read or heard somewhere that one of the AWP guys said that they estimated the car sank in 30 seconds? I’ll try and find a link, so for now this is MOO.

Yes, AWP said that a person has 30 seconds and not much more to get out of a sinking car. It was stated in AWP's 30-something minute you tube video that teaches people what to do if in such a situation, posted many times on this forum.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Sorry if this has been stated since I’m just catching up, but if the car was upside down, wouldn’t she have to swim underwater under the opening between the headrests and roof? It would be flipped and that would be at the bottom, can’t really float there. Unless it flipped after but it seems like a pretty quick process with the flip?

She could certainly climb over from front to back. I don’t know if she would float (or swim). I am awaiting the HAIT investigation to better understand the car positioning, etc.

I have one theory of why she might have been found in the back (if she was). Perhaps she had driven down to the beach, had car trouble, and it was too late at night at the party to call for assistance. Maybe she climbed in the back to sleep it off, since her car was useless at that point. If her battery was dead, and her car was maybe left in neutral, it could have rolled into water. And no one saw a thing. It’s also possible someone was around there, pushed it or leaned on it, and maybe didn’t know she was sleeping back there. And they panicked when the car hit the water and they left.

jmo/just a theory.

 

[Sundog]

Not sure if this is allowed, but is a MSM article on the release of the AWP video.

Adventures with Purpose releases video of finding missing Truckee teen Kiely Rodni's body

In the video, Adventure with Purpose's Nick Rinn and Doug Bishop discuss the possibility, with no evidence, that Rodni's death may be suspicious.

www.rgj.com

This MSM article states that after AWP found Kiely, they called extended members of her family to let them know, before they called LE. In addition, the article makes it sound like AWP taped the phone call they made to the family after finding Kiely. They must have had a contract/agreement with the family in advance of the search that if they found Kiely they would call them and the call would be taped.

Doesn't seem right to me, if that is the case. Perhaps this will be more clear when the video is released to the public.

 

[Anonymoususer321]

Doesn't seem right to me, if that is the case. Perhaps this will be more clear when the video is released to the public.

They were recording video while they made the call. A little odd I guess.

I will say, they’re putting their reputation on the line. You be hard pressed to have LE or any other families contact you in the future if you make these allegations without anything to substantiate them.

That being said, I do believe there’s more to this story. The tow truck driver will be found within the next few days by some blogger I’m sure. Fair game and will be interesting to see what he has to say. Pretty adamant it was her car at Boca, where they started their search.

Lastly, if it’s true he did hand in this tip, there is the possibility it was just never followed up on. Reminds me of the Jayme Close case where the police officers only passed one car on the way to the crime scene, but completely neglected that information while publicly sending everyone on a wild goose chase following other tips about cars. They had it on dash cam, the FBI was involved and they pretty much just forgot.

 

[DeDee]

On Wednesday, family spokesperson Linda Luchetti said Rodni's family had no comment on the new video.

"They continue to process their grief privately," Luchetti said.

Adventures with Purpose releases video of finding missing Truckee teen Kiely Rodni's body

In the video, Adventure with Purpose's Nick Rinn and Doug Bishop discuss the possibility, with no evidence, that Rodni's death may be suspicious.

www.rgj.com

Thank you for posting this link. The family must feel crushed.

"Nick, who comes up to AwP in Reno when they stopped at a Best Buy to get supplies.
<>That encounter led them to search Boca <>, the team said."

Now we better understand the 'intel' that AwP received, and how the tip came to be known by them, that led to the AwP search at Boca Rez.

If the potential sighting is true, that Kiley's vehicle was at Boca Rez at 11am on Saturday, how was it driven back to Prosser without being seen on cctv, etal. Locals may know the back roads to take.

Tahoe-truckee Joint Unified to Parking lot

It's no wonder the MP search included a possible kidnapping.

Kidnapping may be done to demand for ransom in exchange for releasing the victim, or for other illegal purposes. Kidnapping can be accompanied by bodily injury which elevates the crime to aggravated kidnapping... wiki

CA kidnapping law
https://www.wklaw.com/kidnapping-laws-california/

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[cvaldez1975]

If the drivers side window was broken by LE, and the front passenger window broke by AWP, then the only window down, open, or broken when found and untouched was the back passenger window, and just one of them? Is that correct? Kinda changes the scenario if true.

Makes it more plausible she went into the water by accident, crawled into the back seat as front end sunk, tried the window and it went down, but too late, she passed out, drowned? One BIG PROBLEM with that though, it takes minutes for the car to go down so why didn't she swim out of the window? If she was able to crawl into the back seat and get the window down, she should have been able to get out, not incapacitated. Right?? IDK

Especially in the dark ppl came find their bearings. Add in panic and possible intox.

 

[cvaldez1975]

Sorry if this has been stated since I’m just catching up, but if the car was upside down, wouldn’t she have to swim underwater under the opening between the headrests and roof? It would be flipped and that would be at the bottom, can’t really float there. Unless it flipped after but it seems like a pretty quick process with the flip?

The engine is heavy, or goes nose down first. Goes upside down when settles.

 

[wary]

If the drivers side window was broken by LE, and the front passenger window broke by AWP, then the only window down, open, or broken when found and untouched was the back passenger window, and just one of them? Is that correct? Kinda changes the scenario if true.

Makes it more plausible she went into the water by accident, crawled into the back seat as front end sunk, tried the window and it went down, but too late, she passed out, drowned? One BIG PROBLEM with that though, it takes minutes for the car to go down so why didn't she swim out of the window? If she was able to crawl into the back seat and get the window down, she should have been able to get out, not incapacitated. Right?? IDK

In my opinion, ‘swim out the window’ is a whole lot easier said than done. It’s night, pitch dark, you’re shocked and frightened, the car is spinning, tipping, it’s hard to even know which way is up, and moment by moment your orientation is changing, and water is rushing forcefully in through that open window. If you’ve taken any of the things that people go to parties to take, your chances are lessened even more.

MOO

 

[cujenn81]

Mags told her mom that Kiely was extremely drunk when she left only 10 minutes after her arrival. What else has she to say about why she left her best friend at a place where she may not have known many people, being home schooled? Was that always her plan to leave with her bf? Or did she think she'd left Kiely in safe hands with someone? Kiely's boyfriend didn't attend the party.

I'm also curious about that mass exodus from the site at the same time. Did something occur that the attendees felt they could be in trouble for? Were they part of some kind of activity that went sideways? Or was it just knowing that eventually the party would get shut down.

Everyone seems so closed mouthed about the party with the blessings of their parents, it seems. If all these kids were drunk they aren't going to charged after the fact. If they were all taking drugs, same thing. However, if someone was passing around tainted stuff then that changes things.

Way back when a woman I worked with went to a party in a vacant abandoned house with about 20 other people. They all took acid. Unfortunately for my friend she developed an acute case of appendicitis. Her behavior freaked out the others and they all took off and left her alone in the house in a rural area. The only reason she's probably alive is that someone faked taking the drug and felt guilty and went back to take her to the hospital. Sometimes teenagers do stuff like that because they fear retribution rather than doing the right thing.

Holy crap… thank God for whoever the person was that came back for her!

 

[IDK]

I remember there was at least one false sighting of KR. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s another case of mistaken identity. Time will tell I guess!

I’ve been looking for an article about the previous false sighting—the only thing I’ve found so far is the report of a fake scanner message about her being seen in South Reno. So the whole message may have been a hoax which is really awful, IMO. This has nothing to do with the AWP video, but wanted to clarify.

Sheriff: Pranks like the fake scanner recording hurt Kiely Rodni investigation

Placer County Sheriff's Office wants tips and leads but warned against fake reports being shared including that Kiely Rodni was found in Reno.

www.rgj.com

 

[MsBetsy]

I’ve been looking for an article about the previous false sighting—the only thing I’ve found so far is the report of a fake scanner message about her being seen in South Reno. So the whole message may have been a hoax which is really awful, IMO. This has nothing to do with the AWP video, but wanted to clarify.

Sheriff: Pranks like the fake scanner recording hurt Kiely Rodni investigation

Placer County Sheriff's Office wants tips and leads but warned against fake reports being shared including that Kiely Rodni was found in Reno.

www.rgj.com

I doubt it was Kiely that the man saw. If it was, LE would have verified it and the last date and time she was seen would have been the day after the party.

 

[MsBetsy]

If the drivers side window was broken by LE, and the front passenger window broke by AWP, then the only window down, open, or broken when found and untouched was the back passenger window, and just one of them? Is that correct? Kinda changes the scenario if true.

Makes it more plausible she went into the water by accident, crawled into the back seat as front end sunk, tried the window and it went down, but too late, she passed out, drowned? One BIG PROBLEM with that though, it takes minutes for the car to go down so why didn't she swim out of the window? If she was able to crawl into the back seat and get the window down, she should have been able to get out, not incapacitated. Right?? IDK

A car can sink in 30 seconds so she may not have had all that much time. If the power quickly went out, it's possible that she tried to fit through the only open window in the back and ran out of air as the car continued to sink.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Happy birthday Kiely. Today I will celebrate life in your honor…

 

[Wltrn]

HMMMMMMM. That parking spot, how did she end up down at the water unless she intended to go? Sure doesn't look like she would leave the road for dirt unless she was intending to go down to the water?

^^^^THIS... I can't stop ruminating over how Kiely got down to the beach and point of entering the water. In the YouTuber's nighttime video upthread, she mentioned that Kiely had to take one wrong "right" turn followed by one wrong "left" turn to get to the memorial site area. I'm having trouble visualizing this on the maps posted upthread... anyone want to have a go at it?
I also watched the live recovery, and imo, both back windows were down halfway, and drivers side window blown out which may have been caused by the side view mirror during a roll under water.
My takeaway... windows were down to air out the smoke smell and this was a tragic accident, another wrong turn. Imo

Or... my theory if foul play , imo, will involve older guys and poss fentanyl OD, then cover up (less likely imo)

 

[CuriousObserver1]

Not sure if this is allowed, but is a MSM article on the release of the AWP video.

Adventures with Purpose releases video of finding missing Truckee teen Kiely Rodni's body

In the video, Adventure with Purpose's Nick Rinn and Doug Bishop discuss the possibility, with no evidence, that Rodni's death may be suspicious.

www.rgj.com

Who is the guy who said he saw her at 11am? I assume LE confirmed it was not her though. AWP making "allegations of foul play" - before that has been suggested by LE, as I mentioned before, does not seem right, but like many of these cases I think LE probably are sitting on a lot of information we are just not privy to yet! Rightly so though given it could compromise the case or give any suspects time to disappear/come up with a solid alibi if LE were so public with their findings during an open investigation.

AWP are brilliant, do amazing work, but I think they need to stick to cold cases or at least wait until LE has finished investigating/reporting before releasing their footage - definitely not sure I agree with the Pay-To-View model of showing 'evidence' when a case is still live and still so raw for the families

 

[jbennett]

Can't say I agree with everything AWP has done regarding this latest preview and video BUT it is possible they feel confident releasing some of this info because they are confident that it is foul play and know way more than we do. Also, we don't know to what level they could be working with LE or her family and maybe this is a tactic to get people to talk.
I think we should hold judgment until more info is out and the story comes to light.
They do amazing work and it's not fair to bash them based off of this one situation when we don't know the whole story.

 

[AggieLou]

Can't say I agree with everything AWP has done regarding this latest preview and video BUT it is possible they feel confident releasing some of this info because they are confident that it is foul play and know way more than we do. Also, we don't know to what level they could be working with LE or her family and maybe this is a tactic to get people to talk.
I think we should hold judgment until more info is out and the story comes to light.
They do amazing work and it's not fair to bash them based off of this one situation when we don't know the whole story.

If they have done a large number of water recoveries of vehicles they must know what is different and what is the same here. They surely follow to the end on these cases for final determinations.
Plus they have all their documentation of previous cases to look back on.
Just my opinion I think they knew something was up when first recovering the vehicle.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Kiely was 5’7” and 115 lbs.
Only 16 years old, active and likely agile enough to maneuver herself into position to get out through the window. Possibly impaired.

I went out to the car, measured the drivers side window. I am in a rental, basic standard size four door sedan, newer model.
Then I measured the widest part of my body.
I sat in my car and tried to get into a position to exit via a window. It is not easy with the steering wheel/column. Much easier from the passenger side.
Lots to think about after doing this.
JMO