Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #7

[imstilla.grandma]

Kiely’s BD is on the missing flyers that are featured in the trailer for the video. They are literally holding up the flyers in their hands. Would be crazy they just didn’t notice while editing that thing, investigators that they are…

But I made the point about her BD because I think it shows that AWP clearly didn’t check in with this family before they released that video, (which was released behind a paywall the day before this family’s deceased daughter’s birthday & with plans to remove the paywall the day after her birthday).

Folks can defend it, but IMO *at best* it was just careless and not cool, and at worst it was deliberately sensationalized to earn them more money, and also potentially toxic to & hindering an ongoing death investigation.

RIP Kiely.

Edited for typo.

I’m trying to keep this glass half full though so many of you make good points I agree with. What has me scratching my head is why? Why were they in such a hurry to post this video? Either they are sensationalizing her birthday or they are indeed working with LE in some fashion. I’ve been around the block a time or two with these cases. Significant dates are very often the conus of LE breaking news updates. Is it Friday yet?

 

[cvaldez1975]

If they have done a large number of water recoveries of vehicles they must know what is different and what is the same here. They surely follow to the end on these cases for final determinations.
Plus they have all their documentation of previous cases to look back on.
Just my opinion I think they knew something was up when first recovering the vehicle.

note that this is the first that is not a cold case though.

 

[Cassady]

Perhaps, but I frankly have never gotten the impression that local LE were overly enthusiastic about having AWP as part of the search, despite them voicing their appreciation in public statements. Fact is, with all of the thousands of hours of manpower put into this case, not one single LEO was assigned to go along with AWP on any of their searches of the area, and they allegedly found out that her car and remains had been located by calling AWP after hearing it second-hand. As much as they had to be thankful that Kiely was found, they also surely had to know that it was going to make them look bad in the eyes of many, that she was found in an area they had already searched, and pretty much cleared. As AWP are no part of law enforcement, it would be highly unprofessional to share any hint of preliminary autopsy results with them, and I cannot imagine that they were encouraged by LE to release this upcoming video, which is far more likely to hinder any investigation than to help it. JMO

I wonder where the investigation would have been at today if AWP had not showed up?

IMO this case would be as cold as the Truckee River if AWP had not provided their services and found the missing person.

 

[getthefax]

I’m trying to keep this glass half full though so many of you make good points I agree with. What has me scratching my head is why? Why were they in such a hurry to post this video? Either they are indeed sensationalizing her birthday (I won’t forgive, if so) or they are working with LE in some fashion. I’ve been around the block a time or two with these cases. Significant dates are very often the conus of LE breaking news updates. Is it Friday yet?

MOO, but I think there is 0.00000% chance that LE is working with AWP in absolutely any capacity, and that they had zero idea about this video. If we were talking about a Delphi case situation okay, but… this case? No way. (MOO, of course, but I’ll eat my hat if we learn later that LE and AWP worked deep into the night to assemble a video designed specifically to ferret out perpetrators and shake trees for more intel on the whole party situation…).

 

[SpicyFruit]

This MSM article states that after AWP found Kiely, they called extended members of her family to let them know, before they called LE. In addition, the article makes it sound like AWP taped the phone call they made to the family after finding Kiely. They must have had a contract/agreement with the family in advance of the search that if they found Kiely they would call them and the call would be taped.

Doesn't seem right to me, if that is the case. Perhaps this will be more clear when the video is released to the public.

I have watched previous AWP videos where they worked closely with families of the victims. Usually because the families called them directly. So It is not unusual for them to record such conversations except usually it is a much older case.

I have not fully caught up, but last I had heard LE could not even confirm who said ok to AWP coming in to search. Could KR's family have contacted them directly and asked them to come out? If so, then maybe they had an agreement. Especially if you call a group like this knowing the reason everyone knows about them is because of their work posted on youtube.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

MOO, but I think there is 0.00000% chance that LE is working with AWP in absolutely any capacity, and that they had zero idea about this video. If we were talking about a Delphi case situation okay, but… this case? No way. (MOO, of course, but I’ll eat my hat if we learn later that LE and AWP worked deep into the night to assemble a video designed specifically to ferret out perpetrators and shake trees for more intel on the whole party situation…).

Your hat might go nicely with my crow. Recipes anyone? lol

Seriously though, I think you took my comment too literally. Do I think LE had any involvement with the making of the video? No. Perhaps, the release date…

*eta:What if AWP always intended on making this video and this would be their base to jump off into the whole story at a later date kinda like Gabby Petito story. Maybe to serve as a jump board to a larger platform. Maybe they weren’t done and it was in the can waiting on a resolution but decided to do this 2-parter cause… oh hell, idk

 

[SteveP]

I wonder where the investigation would have been at today if AWP had not showed up?

IMO this case would be as cold as the Truckee River if AWP had not provided their services and found the missing person.

Absolutely. In my post immediately preceding the one you replied to, I said that had they not found Kiely, she would have perhaps laid in that lake for eternity. But that doesn't mean that everyone was overjoyed to see their arrival. Different law enforcement agencies do not even always work well together when a case dictates it, so certainly a group that enters that is not law enforcement could meet some of the same resistance. JMO

 

[Gemmie]

Kiely’s BD is on the missing flyers that are featured in the trailer for the video. They are literally holding up the flyers in their hands. Would be crazy they just didn’t notice while editing that thing, investigators that they are…

But I made the point about her BD because I think it shows that AWP clearly didn’t check in with this family before they released that video, (which was released behind a paywall the day before this family’s deceased daughter’s birthday & with plans to remove the paywall the day after her birthday).

Folks can defend it, but IMO *at best* it was just careless and not cool, and at worst it was deliberately sensationalized to earn them more money, and also potentially toxic to & hindering an ongoing death investigation.

RIP Kiely.

Edited for typo.

I see what you're saying. Speaking for myself, if I was ever in a situation where I was searching for someone, and had even read their missing poster, all I'd remember are the important facts to me. That's the description of the person (Their car and what they were wearing), and their age. But to me, the month and day of their birth wouldn't matter, only how old the person I'm looking for is. So I would not remember their birthdate if I had even read that part of the poster. The only reason I'd remember it is if it had special meaning to me. Like mine or someone's BD I know, or an important date like anniversaries, etc.

 

[getthefax]

Also, MOO, but I’m gonna go way out on a limb here and say I think the guy who claims he spoke with roadside assistance is so far out there, it is not outside the realm of possibility that he’s a rando dude out for his 15 minutes of shamefully ill-gotten fame.

He could also have just even been planted there to hype this story and drive AWP sales and YT memberships. Yep, I said it. His story doesn’t even make any sense in the context of what happened. Can we even verify that that guy was there?

MOO.

Edited for yet another fat-fingered typo.

 

[pizzaman12]

I think a tragic accident is still by far the most likely in Kiely's case. But IF any of her car windows were found down or broken, that leaves some room for speculation.

AWP stated the car didn't sink like a normal car with the windows up would sink which would be 2-10 minute float and then drops down. This would have sunk in 20-30 seconds

There was only one that wasn’t broken but that was because the vehicle was flipped back over.

Most of all of the windows were up at the point of impact

 

[pizzaman12]

Also, MOO, but I’m gonna go way out on a limb here and say I think the guy who claims he spoke with roadside assistance is so far out there, it is not outside the realm of possibility that he’s a rando dude out for his 15 minutes of shamefully ill-gotten fame.

He could also have just even been planted there to hype this story and drive AWP sales and YT memberships. Yep, I said it. His story doesn’t even make any sense in the context of what happened. Can we even verify that that guy was there?

MOO.

Edited for yet another fat-fingered typo.

BBM- They literally searched a completely different area than her phone last pinged at because of the information from the driver. They always use the "last known location" and while they stated they didn't know the driver from anyone, they found him to be credible

 

[getthefax]

BBM- They literally searched a completely different area than her phone last pinged at because of the information from the driver. They always use the "last known location" and while they stated they didn't know the driver from anyone, they found him to be credible

MOO, but I believe this is false.

Why?? Because LE searched Prosser first, and because in addition to Boca Reservoir, AWP also searched Donner Lake before they searched Prosser!
But they aren’t reminding anyone that they did that, and they didn’t do it because of some “tip” that LE supposedly received indicating that her last known location was near Donner, right? No.

I think they searched both Boca and Donner Lake first because the cops had already searched Prosser, so it seemed logical to do a first pass elsewhere. When they turned up nothing they then moved to Prosser.

MOO/YMMV

 

[deadfoot13]

AWP stated the car didn't sink like a normal car with the windows up would sink which would be 2-10 minute float and then drops down. This would have sunk in 20-30 seconds

My question for them would be, how do they know that? No one even knows definitively where the car entered the water, so how on earth could they make any valid calculations? They may be able to hazard an educated guess, but things like physics and math will have to be used to figure out how fast the car sunk and how it wound up in that position, and you can't do that without an entry point.

 

[MsMarple]

Absolutely. If you read my post immediately preceding the one you replied to, you will see that I said that had they not found Kiely, she would have perhaps laid in that lake for eternity. But that doesn't mean that everyone was overjoyed to see their arrival. JMO

And I'll add that IMO AWP's amazing work of recovering Kiely and her car doesn't automatically give them permission to insert themselves into LE's investigation. In no way can I imagine the CHP MAIT team inviting AWP to do their ground work for them. Nope. MOO of course.

 

[pizzaman12]

MOO, but I believe this is false.

Why?? Because LE searched Prosser first, and because in addition to Boca Reservoir, AWP also searched Donner Lake before they searched Prosser!
But they aren’t reminding anyone that they did that, and they didn’t do it because of some “tip” that LE supposedly received indicating that her last known location was near Donner, right? No.

I think they searched both Boca and Donner Lake first because the cops had already searched Prosser, so it seemed logical to do a first pass elsewhere. When they turned up nothing they then moved to Prosser.

MOO/YMMV

I'm simply going off what Jared from AWP stated.

 

[Anonymoususer321]

MOO, but I believe this is false.

Why?? Because LE searched Prosser first, and because in addition to Boca Reservoir, AWP also searched Donner Lake before they searched Prosser!
But they aren’t reminding anyone that they did that, and they didn’t do it because of some “tip” that LE supposedly received indicating that her last known location was near Donner, right? No.

I think they searched both Boca and Donner Lake first because the cops had already searched Prosser, so it seemed logical to do a first pass elsewhere. When they turned up nothing they then moved to Prosser.

MOO/YMMV

They stated they searched Boca first based off the tip that came from the tow truck driver

 

[getthefax]

I'm simply going off what Jared from AWP stated.

I believe he said that, but I’m not sure it clears up anything. LE clearly states that the last sighting of KR was at the party, and her last known cell phone ping was at 12:33am at Prosser. They never said she may have been at Boca. Did this “tip” go to AWP and not LE?

Did he say why they also searched Donner Lake before Prosser?

MOO, but this stinks to me.

 

[gliving]

Kiely’s BD is on the missing flyers that are featured in the trailer for the video. They are literally holding up the flyers in their hands. Would be crazy they just didn’t notice while editing that thing, investigators that they are…

But I made the point about her BD because I think it shows that AWP clearly didn’t check in with this family before they released that video, (which was released behind a paywall the day before this family’s deceased daughter’s birthday & with plans to remove the paywall the day after her birthday).

Folks can defend it, but IMO *at best* it was just careless and not cool, and at worst it was deliberately sensationalized to earn them more money, and also potentially toxic to & hindering an ongoing death investigation.

RIP Kiely.

Edited for typo.

Maybe I missed it, but is there some reason you believe the family is unhappy with AWP? It could be they are fully behind the video contents and release date. idk

 

[Anonymoususer321]

I believe he said that, but I’m not sure it clears up anything. LE clearly states that the last sighting of KR was at the party, and her last known cell phone ping was at 12:33am at Prosser. They never said she may have been at Boca. Did this “tip” go to AWP and not LE?

Did he say why they also searched Donner Lake before Prosser?

MOO, but this stinks to me.

Early on a family member of Kielys told a new station she may have left the party to go to an after party nearby.

Boca is also a spot a few friends posted that she may have gone to after the party (on instagram).

Tow truck driver reported it to LE and AWP. AWP felt that it may have been overlooked due to the high volume of tips coming in( From their interview yesterday)

 

[Cassady]

And I'll add that IMO AWP's amazing work of recovering Kiely and her car doesn't automatically give them permission to insert themselves into LE's investigation. In no way can I imagine the CHP MAIT team inviting AWP to do their ground work for them. Nope. MOO of course.

As soon as AWP found the missing person, they became a key part of the investigation. It is not a matter of inserting themselves unless LE is claiming they had no permission to search and that their search in some way hindered the investigation. The known facts at this point speak for themselves and AWP's work is the only reason any actual physical evidence is being analyzed in this case...IMO.

It is LE job to analyze that evidence.

It is AWP's job to tell their story about this case and move on to their next case, as I believe that is what they do for a living and to support their families.

In this case, the missing person's family does not have to wait 20 years to have some closure. That is different from most of AWP's cases and is as good of reason as any to applaud the efforts of AWP and to not get bothered by any monetization related to them telling this incredible story that they are now an intregal part of....IMO