Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni missing from Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #9

[RedHaus]

And for what it's worth. I think some of the confusion (at least on my part!) is the differing water levels between maps. We know from LE, for instance, that the Prosser Lake was 3.5-4 feet higher on 8/6 than on 8/21, when KR was found.

Here are two maps of the same location - the one on the left was an arial shot on 8/21, to which I added a red star; on the right is the map DM used in their 9/14 article, for my comparison. You can see the vast difference in water levels, with the 8/21 map much higher.


ET: clarify 2nd to last sentence.

 

[MsMarple]

Thank you, @ameliak. It had been a while since I had looked at the maps and I was mistaken in my recent post. So as you say, today's DM article has the correct location of where KR's car was found... technically on Alder Creek, I guess.

For the good of the order, I am posting the map from today's DM article with the CORRECT location for KR's car.

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Diver who found missing Kiely Rodni says death 'reeks of foul play'

Diver Doug Bishop, who found the body of missing California teen Kiely Rodni in the backseat of her car submerged in a reservoir, has doubled down on his claims that he believes her death is suspicious.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

So Kiely's car was found in Alder Creek not Prosser Reservoir? I thought a local said the water there was shallow? Maybe I'm misremembering. Do we have any other sources for the location? I'm having trouble finding any.

ETA to add: The reason I think the location is important is because it yields clues as to where Kiely might have entered the water.

Different maps posted by the Daily Mail regarding the car's location:
August 22:

Somber moment 'Kiely Rodni's SUV' pulled out of California reservoir

A silver Honda CR-V believed to belong to Kiely Rodni was winched from the lake in northern California on Sunday night. Rodni, 16, was last seen near the lake leaving a party after midnight.

www.dailymail.co.uk

August 22:

Cops believe body Kiely Rodni was found in car pulled from reservoir

Adventures With Purpose found the missing teens car in Prosser Lake, California, along with the 16-year-olds body, which has yet to be formally identified, just 35 minutes after taking to the water.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Today:

Diver who found missing Kiely Rodni says death 'reeks of foul play'

Diver Doug Bishop, who found the body of missing California teen Kiely Rodni in the backseat of her car submerged in a reservoir, has doubled down on his claims that he believes her death is suspicious.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LooksSusToMe]

Just a FYI the 2016 Honda CR-V (fifth generation) is a different than a 2013 (fourth generation).

 

[Curiosa20]

Great map and research, @RedHaus. Thank you!
As of now, according to the very precise Bureau of Land’s gauges, Prosser Reservoir has lowered approximately 8 feet since 8/21. That would bring the depth at vehicle location spot down to about 6 feet, from the reported 14-15 feet at discovery.
Basically a tall person could walk out and around to where the vehicle was discovered.

USGS Current Conditions for USGS 10340300 PROSSER C RES NR TRUCKEE CA

And for what it's worth. I think some of the confusion (at least on my part!) is the differing water levels between maps. We know from LE, for instance, that the Prosser Lake was 3.5-4 feet higher on 8/6 than on 8/21, when KR was found.

Here are two maps of the same location - the one on the left was an arial shot on 8/21, to which I added a red star; on the right is the map DM used in their 9/14 article, for my comparison. You can see the vast difference in water levels, with the 8/21 map much higher.

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ET: clarify 2nd to last sentence

 

[Curiosa20]

Back in loading messages hell. So far the link to water data in my last post is just spinning and spinning during minutes.

 

[carbuff]

Back in loading messages hell. So far the link to water data in my last post is just spinning and spinning during minutes.

I was able to see it just now. And thank you for that information.

 

[Curiosa20]

Alder Creek is just an area identifier. It’s a little meadow stream and road, trail. Undoubtedly runs off into the reservoir during snow melt, mostly.
Here’s a map and description of road and dam area.

Prosser Creek Reservoir - Sierra Tahoe

Prosser Creek Reservoir

flyfishingthesierra.com

 

[SMK777]

I saw that, and it makes my blood boil. Far too many people now want to be their kid's BFF, and not their parent, and then, when they finally have to be the parent, they don't understand why their kid doesn't respect them. I will only say that there is far more to being a 'parent' than providing the sperm and egg. Any teen who can buy drugs from their friends' parents needs new friends, and their friends need real parents. JMO

Fully agree.

 

[MsMarple]

Alder Creek is just an area identifier. It’s a little meadow stream and road, trail. Undoubtedly runs off into the reservoir during snow melt, mostly.
Here’s a map and description of road and dam area.

Prosser Creek Reservoir - Sierra Tahoe

Prosser Creek Reservoir

flyfishingthesierra.com

Thanks to you and @RedHaus - I think I finally get it now. I did find another map from KRNV which also helped, with the caption:

Map shows the site of Sunday's police activity, proximity to the Prosser Family Campground where the party she is said to have attended the night she disappeared, and the location of our news crew on site (represented by a green dot). (KRNV)

Car, body pulled from Prosser Reservoir believed to be 16-year-old Kiely Rodni

A tow truck arrives on scene in the area of the Prosser Creek Reservoir following claims by a volunteer dive team that Keily Rodni's car and body were submerged under 14 feet of water. (KRNV/Gio Alvarado)

mynews4.com

Here's the Google map:

Prosser Creek Reservoir · California 96161

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www.google.com

 

[Laughing]

Just a FYI the 2016 Honda CR-V (fifth generation) is a different than a 2013 (fourth generation).

But, the headrests are very similar! We had a 2007 CR-V, a 2016 HR-V, and now a 2022 HR-V, the rear headrests are as described in the 2016.

And, the rear headrests can be completely removed. Were the rear headrests still in Kiely's CR-V?

Easier to fold the rear seats down with the headrests out.

jmpersonalexperience ymmv lrr

 

[OtisC]

What disturbs me is that they often say, “I can’t answer that, due to the ongoing investigation” but then come out with that type of remark above. Remaining silent would be better all around.

It was a risk to allow that statement survive the edit room. Did they calculate that the risk was worth the reward for their brand, for justice to be had, or both?

Is their exposure increasing with the increasing exposure of this case? Yes. So does every brand that covers this case, including several social media accounts we follow.

They do provide evidence for their statement of possible foul play.

Just my thoughts.

Otis

 

[Curiosa20]

<modsnip - quoted post was removed>
For me, it boils down to this.
Did AWP turn over all the video? Make complete statements to LE of what was seen underwater?
Forward to LE any information that might have been provided to them?
<modsnip>

Surely there are many missing persons families they could be assisting, if I’m not mistaken.
What happened to the “San Obispo” case Doug said they were going to after Jolissa Fuentes in Selma? Did he mean San Luis Obispo? Which missing person would that be?
Is there no clamor for a water search anywhere else?

 

[OtisC]

Indeed. Go home with your dignity. No-one likes a..***. They are (by all accounts) the best at what they do. They should stop courting SM, YT, and MSM, it is not doing them any favours. IMO. If they carry on the way they are going, families in similar situations (missing relatives specifically in vehicles, Water) maybe reluctant to employ them in the future, sadly.

MOO
ETA : Missing link

Kiely Rodni: The volunteer dive team that found her remains suspects foul play

The lead investigator of a for-profit search and rescue team that located the remains of California missing teen Kiely Rodni doesn't think her death was an accident.

www.foxnews.com

To be clear, I don't think families "employ" them. It is my understanding that they volunteer their work and that they may receive any related reward but are primarily funded through their followers.

As far as refusing to answer certain questions, they have indicated that they work with LE in censuring themselves involving anything that could hurt a possible prosecution.

I appreciate that they do.

Just my thoughts.

Otis

 

[Curiosa20]

But, the headrests are very similar! We had a 2007 CR-V, a 2016 HR-V, and now a 2022 HR-V, the rear headrests are as described in the 2016.

And, the rear headrests can be completely removed. Were the rear headrests still in Kiely's CR-V?

Easier to fold the rear seats down with the headrests out.

jmpersonalexperience ymmv lrr

Thank you @Laughing for asking about the headrests. I’ve wondered the same thing.
I’ve assumed the seats wern’t down since it wouldn’t create a cargo/hatch space if they were up. Is that right?

 

[JC40]

To be clear, I don't think families "employ" them. It is my understanding that they volunteer their work and that they may receive any related reward but are primarily funded through their followers.

As far as refusing to answer certain questions, they have indicated that they work with LE in censuring themselves involving anything that could hurt a possible prosecution.

I appreciate that they do.

Just my thoughts.

Otis

I apologise. Maybe not "employ," but to utilise their services to assist if they can.

 

[Curiosa20]

Indeed. Go home with your dignity. No-one likes a..***. They are (by all accounts) the best at what they do. They should stop courting SM, YT, and MSM, it is not doing them any favours. IMO. If they carry on the way they are going, families in similar situations (missing relatives specifically in vehicles, Water) maybe reluctant to employ them in the future, sadly.

MOO
ETA : Missing link

Kiely Rodni: The volunteer dive team that found her remains suspects foul play

The lead investigator of a for-profit search and rescue team that located the remains of California missing teen Kiely Rodni doesn't think her death was an accident.

www.foxnews.com

Not to mention the aversion LE might have in future possible collaborations

 

[Laughing]

Thank you @Laughing for asking about the headrests. I’ve wondered the same thing.
I’ve assumed the seats wern’t down since it wouldn’t create a cargo/hatch space if they were up. Is that right?

The CR-V is like a station wagon (if you're old enough to remember those) with front seats, rear seats, and a hatch/trunk area. Ours have some type of cover over the hatch/trunk area, but these are removable & sometimes older vehicles don't have these any more.

2011 was sadly the last year of the Honda picnic table, I wonder of Kiely used hers for the bar set-up?

The seats can be folded down, which creates a larger cargo/hatch space but limits the number of passengers:


carbuzz.com

This is supposed to be the 2011 CR-V.

No idea of the dimensions of the space -- Google produces something like 70 cubic feet, which isn't the number I wanted. So -- length, with, and depth of this space -- IDK.

But, you can put lots of stuff in there, lots!

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[Ragnarok]

Thanks for the car sinking in water videos!

Beginning to think Kiely may have fallen asleep and car rolled in lake. Didn't wake up until water woke her.

I have one of those car window punches in my car. Got mine due to two cars found in lakes here (NY). One disappeared in the 50s and found in the 80s/90s (2 deceased). Another disappeared in the 2000s and found several years later (1 deceased). Both disappeared during winter.

 

[303gmf]

...which is why more active, hands-on parenting may be needed, rather than hands-off parenting. JMO

Tough on parents to stay married too! I knew many who did not, same temptations and atmosphere

 

[Curiosa20]

The CR-V is like a station wagon (if you're old enough to remember those) with front seats, rear seats, and a hatch/trunk area. Our have some type of cover over the hatch/trunk area, but these are removable & sometimes older vehicles don't have these any more.

2011 was sadly the last year of the Honda picnic table, I wonder of Kiely used hers for the bar set-up?

The seats can be folded down, which creates a larger cargo/hatch space but limits the number of passengers:

View attachment 366293
carbuzz.com

This is supposed to be the 2011 CR-V.

No idea of the dimensions of the space -- Google produces something like 70 cubic feet, which isn't the number I wanted. So -- length, with, and depth of this space -- IDK.

But, you can put lots of stuff in there, lots!

jmho ymmv lrr

Wow, that’s a great perspective.
Looking at the photo, I don’t understand the controversy. Seems like plenty of room to move or be floated to the hatch/cargo area.