Here's th underlying article. I don't believe registration is required to read it:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/l...a-commun-los_angeles_metro&ctrack=1&cset=true
Here's th underlying article. I don't believe registration is required to read it:
Why is ktla not showing us the photos that Dr H is using to talk to the jury about the blood and what it tells her? I find this very annoying!!
Even without the conclusion of evidence, I can refute 9 of the 10 points of science that LKB raised in her OS. (The 10th is not available from archived excerpt rewatched by sunstar, her notes posted on the other website on the thread I began in order to compare/contrast OS's with actual evidence.)
10 points refuted --- well, nine anyway (Does anyone know the 10th pt?)
1) LKB: "teeth would be broken inward if gun was shoved inside her mouth."
**I say: only if her teeth were clenched. It is completely reasonable to believe that she could have been speaking or he could have forced her to with the gun in her face.
Also she completely ignores the bruises on her tongue and her wrists which are consistent with a struggle.
2) blood spatter goes 6-8 feet
** I say: Dr Herold says that blood back spatter goes 2- 4 feet. The person who will say 6-8 feet is Dr Henry Lee and he will be utterly discredited to the jury anyway.
But even without that--- the facts show that there was NO high-velocity spatter on her outstretched legs and her shoes, no h-v spatter on the rug or on the wood paneling on staircase (testimony by Renteria about Luminol testing).
Also there is the h-v blood spatter on PS's white jacket which matches the h-v blood spatter on Lana's skirt which proves that PS was standing there
3) tissue on jacket buttons
**was not there from the shooting event rather from the later purge at the coroner's office
4) GSR -- LKB: "absence" on PS
**No, not an absence, a reduction, easily explained by the 40 mins. bet. the shooting and his arrest and the oppty to wash, wipe and remove it.
5) teeth-- location of fragments proves no one was in front of her
**We know that PS went upstairs (blood on bannister, jacket found upstairs, he was seen in the upstairs by LE) and tooth fragments might have fallen off him on the way up the stairs.
6) DNA on bullets proved she loaded the gun
** DNA was found on the TIPS of the bullets and was there as a result of her being shot with the gun in her mouth.
The notion that she loaded the gun is ludicrous, as is the assertion that the gun was hers.
Gun fit in the holster with the old Hunter logo.
Bullets (Speer and Smith & Wesson +P not sold since 1983) in 3 hand guns in house prove the gun and bullets belonged to Spector.
It's ridiculous to assert she brought an unloaded .38 to the Castle with the intent to find .38 bullets there with which to kill herself is laughable.
7)"physical size disparity between LC and PS" proves he didn't shoot her
plus he had the hand tremors
** Piffle! A gun is the great equalizer. Also physical evidence shows she was seated when shot.
Hand tremors? What better way to steady his hand than sticking the muzzle in her mouth??
8)clotted blood on diaper
** Shows he wiped her face at least 3 mins after shooting her. This is cover-up not aid.
9) PS didn't try to cover up the scene. Gun not planted or wiped.
** Gun had no fingerprints on it and also smeared blood on it. It WAS wiped.
It is idiotic to maintain that the gun fell from her right hand and landed under her left leg.
There was also the very credible testimony from ADS that Spector came out of the Castle holding the gun.
10) _____
Lisa, on point number 9, wasn't there some testimony that the blood smear on the gun handle matched the smear on Lana Clarkson's left hand and this indicates that the gun was placed into her hand after the bleeding event.
In other words, Phil tried to stage a left handed suicide by a right handed victim.
Did I misunderstand the testimony?
Even without the conclusion of evidence, I can refute 9 of the 10 points of science that LKB raised in her OS. (The 10th is not available from archived excerpt rewatched by sunstar, her notes posted on the other website on the thread I began in order to compare/contrast OS's with actual evidence.)
10 points refuted --- well, nine anyway (Does anyone know the 10th pt?)
1) LKB: "teeth would be broken inward if gun was shoved inside her mouth."
**I say: only if her teeth were clenched. It is completely reasonable to believe that she could have been speaking or he could have forced her to with the gun in her face.
Also she completely ignores the bruises on her tongue and her wrists which are consistent with a struggle.
2) blood spatter goes 6-8 feet
** I say: Dr Herold says that blood back spatter goes 2- 4 feet. The person who will say 6-8 feet is Dr Henry Lee and he will be utterly discredited to the jury anyway.
But even without that--- the facts show that there was NO high-velocity spatter on her outstretched legs and her shoes, no h-v spatter on the rug or on the wood paneling on staircase (testimony by Renteria about Luminol testing).
Also there is the h-v blood spatter on PS's white jacket which matches the h-v blood spatter on Lana's skirt which proves that PS was standing there
3) tissue on jacket buttons
**was not there from the shooting event rather from the later purge at the coroner's office
4) GSR -- LKB: "absence" on PS
**No, not an absence, a reduction, easily explained by the 40 mins. bet. the shooting and his arrest and the oppty to wash, wipe and remove it.
5) teeth-- location of fragments proves no one was in front of her
**We know that PS went upstairs (blood on bannister, jacket found upstairs, he was seen in the upstairs by LE) and tooth fragments might have fallen off him on the way up the stairs.
6) DNA on bullets proved she loaded the gun
** DNA was found on the TIPS of the bullets and was there as a result of her being shot with the gun in her mouth.
The notion that she loaded the gun is ludicrous, as is the assertion that the gun was hers.
Gun fit in the holster with the old Hunter logo.
Bullets (Speer and Smith & Wesson +P not sold since 1983) in 3 hand guns in house prove the gun and bullets belonged to Spector.
It's ridiculous to assert she brought an unloaded .38 to the Castle with the intent to find .38 bullets there with which to kill herself is laughable.
7)"physical size disparity between LC and PS" proves he didn't shoot her
plus he had the hand tremors
** Piffle! A gun is the great equalizer. Also physical evidence shows she was seated when shot.
Hand tremors? What better way to steady his hand than sticking the muzzle in her mouth??
8)clotted blood on diaper
** Shows he wiped her face at least 3 mins after shooting her. This is cover-up not aid.
9) PS didn't try to cover up the scene. Gun not planted or wiped.
** Gun had no fingerprints on it and also smeared blood on it. It WAS wiped.
It is idiotic to maintain that the gun fell from her right hand and landed under her left leg.
There was also the very credible testimony from ADS that Spector came out of the Castle holding the gun.
10) _____
"There is no way if he was sober he would have shot anyone." -- Anita Talbert/Talbot
Ah, but DRUNK, Anita?? But DRUNK?? Implicit is that drunk he could have.
Lana was drunk according to this wingnut. "Personally, the way I think it went down" she says is that Lana was drunk and walking with the gun in her mouth around singing and dancing his songs, trying to show off, trying to get a job with him.
She's is an even bigger idiot than I thought.
From "things she heard the day after the shooting." Hmmm. I wonder who she could have heard things from?
Hi lisa ~ sorry I couldn't get here earlier and then got busy with the Jessie Davis disappearance Good work you've done and I wish that Extra hadn't cut off the last part of LKB O/S which included the 10th point.We still need the 10th point, although I am sure I can refute it, whatever it is.
Today on Jami Floyd's show she had CDA Cynthia (Don't call me Nancy) Sinatra opining that Dr Herold's testimony is irrelevant!
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I am watching Mark Ribowsky, author of HE'S A REBEL, on with Adaora and he is saying interesting things.
He believes that there was that night "some sort of sexual by-play with the gun."
WHERE is he getting that? There has been NO EVIDENCE that Lana engaged in "sexual by-play with guns" nor of Spector either, for that matter.