GUILTY CA - Lauren Key, 4, thrown off cliff, Rancho Palos Verdes, 8 Nov 2000

[ohiogirl]

I didn't know if any one had seen this. A juror wants to be excused.

http://www.insidesocal.com/crime&courts/2009/09/-the-downtown-los-angeles.html

 

[kbl8201]

I didn't know if any one had seen this. A juror wants to be excused.

http://www.insidesocal.com/crime&courts/2009/09/-the-downtown-los-angeles.html

grrrrrrrrrr this is heading towards at worst a hung jury/mistrial and at best an conviction his lawyers might succesfully appeal

 

[Paintr]

What is wrong with these people! This is a trial about the murder of a little girl, not a grade school study hall. 'Please, Sir, I don't wanna play anymore! Please, Sir, may I be excused? Please, Sir, my pencil broke!' Can't these people act like sane, rational adults and do their duty? :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Poor Lauren!

 

[kbl8201]

What is wrong with these people! This is a trial about the murder of a little girl, not a grade school study hall. 'Please, Sir, I don't wanna play anymore! Please, Sir, may I be excused? Please, Sir, my pencil broke!' Can't these people act like sane, rational adults and do their duty? :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Poor Lauren!

if this results in yet another trial the prosecutor might have to move to go for one of those charges (1st, second, manslaughter) and not muddy the waters by giving them options. obviously it's hangin them up

 

[Paintr]

Sprocket has updated her blog (link in previous post). Now one juror looked up 'malice' in the dictionary! There will be a meeting to decide what to do now. SIGH!

 

[kbl8201]

Sprocket has updated her blog (link in previous post). Now one juror looked up 'malice' in the dictionary! There will be a meeting to decide what to do now. SIGH!

this proves my point that about 95 percent of jurors in this country are morons.
mistrial coming up soon. wont even get a hung jury

 

[Paintr]

http://www.insidesocal.com/crime&courts/

Despite being told by the judge not to use anything outside of what was presented in court during their deliberations, Juror No. 9 in the Cameron Brown retrial says he didn't hear that instruction. So, in order to facilitate the group's progress during deliberations, he typed the word "malice" into an America Online search engine Thursday morning before court, printed up the one-page definition and took it to court.

Sometime Thursday morning, according to himself and 10 of his fellow jurors, he brought the paper out during a discussion of malice - an important concept in this case and a very difficult rule of law to understand. Juror No.12, though, raised an objection to their using the outside definition, and the foreman submitted a note to Judge Michael Pastor asking if they could. Which brought deliberations to a screeching halt.


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However, everyone got sent home anyway because the last juror needs to be questioned before the judge and attorneys can discuss how to proceed. That will happen Monday morning. The options include everything from just telling the 12 sitting jurors to carry on, replacing one or more of them or finding the whole group was contaminated and declaring a mistrial.

 

[kbl8201]

http://www.insidesocal.com/crime&courts/

Despite being told by the judge not to use anything outside of what was presented in court during their deliberations, Juror No. 9 in the Cameron Brown retrial says he didn't hear that instruction. So, in order to facilitate the group's progress during deliberations, he typed the word "malice" into an America Online search engine Thursday morning before court, printed up the one-page definition and took it to court.

Sometime Thursday morning, according to himself and 10 of his fellow jurors, he brought the paper out during a discussion of malice - an important concept in this case and a very difficult rule of law to understand. Juror No.12, though, raised an objection to their using the outside definition, and the foreman submitted a note to Judge Michael Pastor asking if they could. Which brought deliberations to a screeching halt.


....


However, everyone got sent home anyway because the last juror needs to be questioned before the judge and attorneys can discuss how to proceed. That will happen Monday morning. The options include everything from just telling the 12 sitting jurors to carry on, replacing one or more of them or finding the whole group was contaminated and declaring a mistrial.

they must be running low on alternates by now

 

[Paintr]

http://www.dailybreeze.com/crimeandcourts/ci_13476145

Dictionary use delays Brown deliberations


Violating a court order, one of the panelists in Cameron Brown's trial used a dictionary to look up the word "malice" and shared the information with other jurors.

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Malice has to do with the defendant's state of mind, and it is what makes a homicide a murder. There are two kinds of malice that have to do with whether a murder is in the first or the second degree.
The jury, which has had the case since Sept. 17, can consider both options, as well as involuntary manslaughter.

 

[MomofBoys]

Mistrial. UGH. What does this mean now?

 

[Paintr]

http://www.dailybreeze.com/latestnews/ci_13491688

Six jurors said they voted for second-degree murder while the other six said they chose involuntary manslaughter.

After declaring a mistrial, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor set a new court date of Oct. 28 for the case. At that hearing, Brown's defense attorney, Pat Harris, is expected to ask for the case against Brown to be dismissed or, at the very least, the first-degree murder charge be dropped.


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This is the
second jury unable to reach a verdict in the case. Jurors during the first trial, in 2006, also deadlocked.

Harris told reporters he was going to ask that his client, who has been held without bail in jail for six years, be allowed to post bond to be released.

Harris called the prosecution's theory that Brown intentionally threw Lauren over the cliff "absurd" because none of the jurors indicated he or she believed Brown was guilty of first-degree murder.

The prosecutor declined to speak to reporters.

The jury foreman, Mark Dreskin, said that he wished the panelists could have agreed on a verdict, but they hung up on whether or not Brown intended for Lauren to die.

 

[Paintr]

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_13492197?nclick_check=1

Mistrial in case of dad accused of girl's death

LOS ANGELES—A second mistrial was declared Monday in the case of a father accused of murdering his 4-year-old daughter by throwing her off a cliff into the Pacific Ocean.

It was not immediately clear whether prosecutors would retry Brown a third time.

 

[Paintr]

For Lauren.

 

[kbl8201]

morons.
sounds like they wouldnt have reached a verdict anyways.
prosecutors better retry this prick, and the judge bettern not dismiss or let this out on bail

 

[Paintr]

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_13492197

Brown was tried three years ago, but a mistrial was declared after a jury deadlocked on the severity of the crime.

Prosecutors declined to say whether Brown would be retried. Defense attorney Pat Harris said he wants the charges dismissed.

"We'll be asking that they drop the case," Harris said. "At this point, they've (prosecutors) had two bites at the apple and they've been unable to prove their theory."

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"Nobody thought he was not guilty," said Dreskin, a doctor who works for Kaiser Permanente. "It was primarily a decision between if there was intent or not, not the method of the fall, the mechanism of the fall, as important as those things were, it wasn't the final sticking point. It was this question of intent."

 

[Paintr]

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_13495089

Sarah Key-Marer, right, mother of victim Lauren Key

It was primarily a decision between intent or not, not the method of the fall," said Dreskin, 45, the chief of urgent care at Kaiser Permanente in Hollywood.

Sarah Key-Marer, Lauren's mother, said Monday she was still "in shock" from the emotions of the day, but that she firmly believed things happened they way they did for a reason.

Some of the jurors came to her outside of the courthouse and cried, expressing condolences for Lauren and telling her that they wished they could have reached a verdict, Key-Marer said.

 

[ohiogirl]

Damn, what does it take to convict this guy? This is really too bad. Please retry him, if only to keep him where he is as long as possible.

 

[kbl8201]

Damn, what does it take to convict this guy? This is really too bad. Please retry him, if only to keep him where he is as long as possible.

they have to cut it down to one possible charge........not an open form on 3 diffrent degrees. this is a continuing sticking point. if they just go after him for manslaughter there sure to get a conviction

 

[Paintr]

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_13668039

A judge postponed a hearing this morning for motions in the wake of the second mistrial in the Cameron Brown Rancho Palos Verdes cliff death case.

Brown's defense attorneys were expected to ask Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor to reduce Brown's bail and the charges.

However, the written motions were not filed in time and the hearing was rescheduled for Dec. 17.

Deputy District Attorney Craig Hum said he anticipates re-trying the case some time next year.

 

[kbl8201]

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_13668039

A judge postponed a hearing this morning for motions in the wake of the second mistrial in the Cameron Brown Rancho Palos Verdes cliff death case.

Brown's defense attorneys were expected to ask Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor to reduce Brown's bail and the charges.

However, the written motions were not filed in time and the hearing was rescheduled for Dec. 17.

Deputy District Attorney Craig Hum said he anticipates re-trying the case some time next year.

im glad the da isnt gonna let this drop.