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Ok, thank you for the prompt clarification. Will get back to you all.
Thank you Whiskers16,
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Ok, thank you for the prompt clarification. Will get back to you all.
Can I post the photographs here?
I hit the button and asked the moderator if this pictures could be added to this thread.
No, the DoeNetwork page for the girl states the book as the source of information in this case (scroll down at almost at the bottom at the page).
Apparently, the photo's in this book were from a police officers scrapbook and collected over the years of roughly 1930-50. While many were taken by the subject of the book, former detective Jack Huddleston.The pictures comes from a book https://www.amazon.co.uk/Death-Scenes-Homicide-Detectives-Scrapbook/dp/0922915296
Also, I don’t know why but “gore” has never bothered me. This stuff just doesn’t get to me. I mean sure I feel for the loss but looking at it (in pictures and in real life unfortunately, the smell is a different story) has never gotten to me. The boys injuries are horrific but a bit muted by the black and white of the photo in my opinion. He obviously had it close to his face examining it.
My question is what detonated the dynamite.
Can we narrow down which dam these young people might have died at?
List of dams in LA county:
Category:Dams in Los Angeles County, California - Wikipedia
Of the ones listed, these were built between 1921 and 1951:
Mulholland Dam (1923-1924)
Rindge Dam (1924-1926)
St Francis Dam (1924-1926) (Failed in 1928, Demolished in 1929)
Santa Anita Dam (1924-1927)
Bouquet Canyon Dam (1934)
Hansen Dam (1939-1940) (US Army Corps of Engineers)
Santa Fe Dam (1941-1949) (US Army Corps of Engineers)
Sepulveda Dam (1941-1949) (US Army Corps of Engineers)
Of those 8, I think we should be looking at the 5 pre-war ones. Those are the ones that would have used civilian labour and are most likely to account for 2 kids or teenagers, ie family members of employed labour, mucking about. I'm guessing that site security would have been much tighter at the 3 built by the army just before and during wartime. Also, it seems likely that inventory of explosives would be much more closely controlled during wartime than during peacetime so it seems less likely that dynamite would just have been left lying around during and after construction.
I'm not sure this really gets us any further forward but the speculation is interesting in itself.
The failure of the St Francis Dam is also interesting. I imagine it's well known in the US but for the rest of us it's an interesting read.
St. Francis Dam - Wikipedia
What's particularly interesting is that local farmers and landowners in the Owens Valley carried out a number of what today we would call terrorist acts, dynamiting parts of the nearby aqueduct which carried water from the mountains to Los Angeles so it's clear that at least some local people had access to substantial amounts of explosives.
Does anyone know what would have happened to the remains of the victims in LA county during this time period? Would they have been buried and if so where? Without having access to the bodies (and thus DNA) there's probably no way to push this case forward.
Of the ones listed, these were built between 1921 and 1951:
Mulholland Dam (1923-1924)
Rindge Dam (1924-1926)
St Francis Dam (1924-1926) (Failed in 1928, Demolished in 1929)
Santa Anita Dam (1924-1927)
Bouquet Canyon Dam (1934)
Hansen Dam (1939-1940) (US Army Corps of Engineers)
Santa Fe Dam (1941-1949) (US Army Corps of Engineers)
Sepulveda Dam (1941-1949) (US Army Corps of Engineers)
List of dams in LA county:
It seems that the clothing the children wore will be the best thing to go on, as someone with a keen eye for fashion history could have a good idea as to what era certain articles belong to. I'm definitely *not* one, but when I looked at the boy's photo (nothing graphic, just the clothed bottom half of his body that was intact), I noticed that his boots seemed to be unique. Perhaps that may give a better idea of what time period we're looking at? My guess would be 1930s-pre WWII 40s, but that's guesswork at best.
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I think they are loafers. For an example; These are 1930 Loafers. The boy's shoe looks more pointy, and doesn't have stiches as far as I can see. Shoe's were much more "pointy" in the '20's.
I don't understand how there they have a likeness of the boy if he head was blown off? And his head looks like it was smashed not "blown off". There's no brain matter in the vicinity. That photo doesn't look like the damage was caused by something exploding in his hands at all.
I can't wrap my head around how these injuries could have happened at the same time. Was she holding the stick with her hands and feet next to his head while he was lying on the ground?
My mistake - I actually looked at this and thought the picture on the right was a sketch of the boy.
I do!Does anyone own the book, pictures of Jack Huddleston death scenes? There are a few pictures from the book online, but not from this case. I searched and searched but couldn't find them. The ones I saw have dates on it.