Exactly! Pure speculation follows... (based on old photos, no sightings, old medical records)wouldn't you keep it quiet if you did that though?
You'd tell family that you decided to 'give them back' to the adoption/foster services. You wouldn't tell LE anything at all. You'd stay as far under the radar as possible, right?
Article and video dated Dec 25
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New video shows an FBI forensic team searching outside the home.
FBI agents in hazmat suits were seen on the property.
Home of missing California City boys, ages 3 and 4, searched by FBI
Can anyone see what’s inside where the lights are? Better capture in attached file.
IMO the Chief couldn’t commit to saying there were signs/evidence of O & O in the home because they went into a home where supposedly 6 children resided, and all he could confirm at that point in time was yes, they saw signs/evidence of kids living in the home i.e., toys, other kid items strewn around etc., but not necessarily signs/evidence of O & O because they either saw other things in and around the home and/or during their interviews w/the parents and other family members (Grandma, the other children), were told things that raised their suspicions/things weren’t adding up, possibly a combination of all of the above, and the Chief has his reasons for not divulging to the public and going into specific detail as to how LE distinguished between both, like wanting to protect their investigation, not tipping their hand etc.This is interesting. Note the first question is answered "yes" without qualification. This is likely true.
The second question however when its directly about, Orrin and Orson he says, "Not necessarily". This suggest (the former) that there were "signs/evidence" of kids in the home just not them.
How did he distinguish between the both?
Something so ubiquitous with kids. Fingerprints, Handprints. MOO@Hexe are these your own words & thoughts or did I miss an inventory?
I think someone out there, in there, might break. Like Chief said - someone knows something. Money talks...I’m worried LE doesn’t have much to go on. You’d think with a $100,000 reward someone would come forward with info.
I hope it shouts for Orrin,and Orson.I think someone out there, in there, might break. Like Chief said - someone knows something. Money talks...
Exactly! Pure speculation follows... (based on old photos, no sightings, old medical records)
Hypothetically if the kids have been missing a long time or were re-homed/sold a while ago, what would have forced the parents to call 911 now?
We have speculated about the holiday and family expecting to see them. But wouldn’t it have been easier to say the birth mom got them back or they were placed elsewhere or something?
Yeah I have never heard of a case of a child being sold or re-homed and then reported missing. And then the parents came under fire and still didn’t admit rehoming.Here’s a question. People talk about ‘rejoicing.’ Where is a comparable case where a missing child is proven to be ‘rehomed?’
Yeah I have never heard of a case of a child being sold or re-homed and then reported missing. And then the parents came under fire and still didn’t admit rehoming.
Curious if anyone else has? I am very skeptical of that theory but it is strangely discussed a lot in this case. I suppose because people who subscribe to that theory just want the kids to be alive. Or maybe they are QAnon people.
Well, for me “sold or re-homed” are a different animal. If re-homed, I would suspect the parents would, under extreme suspicion and pressure admit what they did. If sold for goodness knows what, why would they admit that. Keep their mouth shut and hope LE can’t build a case. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I do believe in conspiracies to commit atrocities against children. It IS a thing and you don’t have to be a QAnon follower. I’m notYeah I have never heard of a case of a child being sold or re-homed and then reported missing. And then the parents came under fire and still didn’t admit rehoming.
Curious if anyone else has? I am very skeptical of that theory but it is strangely discussed a lot in this case. I suppose because people who subscribe to that theory just want the kids to be alive. Or maybe they are QAnon people.
From your link:JAN 14, 2021
Reward for missing boys increases to $100K | News | desertnews.com
Kern County Sheriff's Office vehicles stage in front of Silver Saddle Ranch on Aristotle Drive Wednesday morning, Jan. 13, while 50 officers and deputies search the grounds for Orson and Orrin West, two toddlers reported missing in California City on Dec. 21. According to Cal City Police, no signs were found.
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In Jan. 13 interview with Bakersfield news station 23ABC, CCPD Chief Jon Walker said 50 personnel from multiple agencies searched Silver Saddle Ranch based on a tip from a resident. The compliment included California City police officers and KCSO's search and rescue team, who furnished a small boat.
"We're still looking and following up on tips, clues, anything that they can come up with," Walker said in that interview. He added he did not want to think of the search as a body recovery "because we don't have any information to prove that."
"Just because we can't find them doesn't mean their not alive," Walker said. "We really hope they are alive and they are safe."
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"Bill Garcia Investigative services has been providing pro bono investigations for missing and abducted children for twenty eight years and have never been accused of fabricating witness sightings or been threatened by law enforcement," Garcia's statement reads. "In any event, I am concluding our efforts and pray that officials will followup properly. Good karma to all."
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