CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #8

[katydid23]

Or maybe she was told that he could have survived, if only such and such...

Let alone the obvious, why did she let him horseplay and rough house around the stairway and balcony? I would be really pissed at a babysitter who allowed my 6 yr old to fall over the edge of the stairway. No excuse for that, imo.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Did he not know that he was contaminating a crime scene???

I have seen that happen in other cases where LE inadvertently leaves a shoe print.

He probably didn't realize the floor of the balcony was dusty.

IMO

 

[cluciano63]

Let alone the obvious, why did she let him horseplay and rough house around the stairway and balcony? I would be really pissed at a babysitter who allowed my 6 yr old to fall over the edge of the stairway. No excuse for that, imo.

I agree...I don't know what the feelings of guilt from that might have caused me to do...

 

[MyBelle]

Maybe because she was ANGRY at him for blaming her. Maybe she was upset that he doubted her, and her suicide was also meant to lash out at him somehow.

How could he not blame her? I think she knew their relationship was over.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

How could he not blame her? I think she knew their relationship was over.

I think so too.

IMO

 

[elementry]

I simply responded to your assumptions that Rebecca was running around the house naked. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest she was doing this in the presence of the brother but even if she did, it doesn't matter to me. She hanged herself naked outside so apparently she didn't care who saw her nude body.

Hanged herself, or was hung...... by someone. Why are you so certain, just based on this somewhat vague press conference. even LE themselves say that this seems to be the only scenario that fits, and not that they are 100% in certitude of the specific circumstances; only that they have no clues saying otherwise; also that they would reopen the case if other evidence develops (or was that the ME who said that?). LE seems sufficiently sure of themselves, but there seemed a little vagueness on their part. I was expecting that more "ironclad" result that was fished about in media reports yesterday. Much more detail and dispositive evidence is what I expected but did not get.

 

[MyBelle]

Let alone the obvious, why did she let him horseplay and rough house around the stairway and balcony? I would be really pissed at a babysitter who allowed my 6 yr old to fall over the edge of the stairway. No excuse for that, imo.

I totally agree with you.

 

[sorrell skye]

Why is that odd? High heat destroys DNA, so if it was used by say Jonah previously and run through the dishwasher all DNA would be gone. So she took the kitchen knife out of the dishwasher, or she was the one to unload the dishwasher previously and took the knife out of a knife block or drawer before using it on the rope only her DNA would be on it.

TY for your comment. It's a credible scenario.

What I find odd is that LE didn't seem to think that it was at least possibly questionable that only Rebecca's fingerprints were found on BOTH knives, in a household where there was more than one adult who may have used or touched them. What I find odd is that it doesn't appear that LE attempted to explain the absence of anyone's else's fingerprints on the knives.

 

[elementry]

How could he not blame her? I think she knew their relationship was over.

Blame her for going to the bathroom for a few minutes? What, was she supposed to cease all bodily functions when she was on child-watching duty?

Even blaming her for not delivering timely CPR is an awful far stretch. This is not to say that he didn't blame her; I bet he did, though that was not justified imho.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I really thought they presented their case very well and how they came to their determination.

If they know where Jonah and Dina were the entire time and have completely ruled out Adam as being involved then that leaves no suspects so it is logical to think her death was a suicide, imo.

IMO

 

[cluciano63]

How could he not blame her? I think she knew their relationship was over.

I know I would not have been able to face him again, or for that matter, anyone...if that had happened when I was the only adult present.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Did he not know that he was contaminating a crime scene???

Even I know that no one should have walked out onto the balcony flooring when footprints were clearly visible without first filming and photographing it.

I have now seen the entire PC and do not like what I heard. Why show a video of the hands being tied in an experiment and not show how the feet were bound? I say show me how ALL of it was done right up to and including stepping through the hands so that they would be behind the back and the feet still bound and the noose fashioned around the neck. And why the long sleeved t-shirt the way it was?

A message? Not in lipstick or magic marker, but with paint from a tube of paint? The rope from the garage? So Rebecca knew there was rope in the garage? She does all of this almost immediately after hearing about Maxies condition worsening? Man! That means Rebecca took almost no time to formulate this plan and choose to complicate it with painting a weird 'message' on the door to the room?

I'm sorry. I do not buy it, and I never will. LE did not prove suicide to me. In fact, I am even more suspicious after this PC!

I'm just a stubborn old grandma calling it as I see it! I do respect everyone elses' opinion and thoughts, though!

:twocents:

 

[justice be served]

Maybe because she was ANGRY at him for blaming her. Maybe she was upset that he doubted her, and her suicide was also meant to lash out at him somehow.

You are actually making my point! LE says she was distraught and sorry for what had happened thus she killed herself. She felt so bad so did herself in. LE said NOTHING about anger or blame or anything else. There is a direct conflict in their theory with how she died. I don't disagree with you either -- it just doesn't jive with LE's telling of the events.:banghead:

 

[MyBelle]

Hanged herself, or was hung...... by someone. Why are you so certain, just based on this somewhat vague press conference. even LE themselves say that this seems to be the only scenario that fits, and not that they are 100% in certitude of the specific circumstances; only that they have no clues saying otherwise; also that they would reopen the case if other evidence develops (or was that the ME who said that?). LE seems sufficiently sure of themselves, but there seemed a little vagueness on their part. I was expecting that more "ironclad" result that was fished about in media reports yesterday. Much more detail and dispositive evidence is what I expected but did not get.

I am certain there is no conspiracy by cops to cover up a homicide. I've thought for quite some time that she committed suicide and tried to make it look like a homicide.

 

[branwynbreeze]

I think there is some "dirt" being covered over. I have a difficult time believing she made suicide choice in a rather small period of time.

Just from my experience, every suicide I have known of personally, there were underlying causes that were simmering long before the act was done.

ETA: I also wonder why she didn't go back to her family instead.

 

[elementry]

Let alone the obvious, why did she let him horseplay and rough house around the stairway and balcony? I would be really pissed at a babysitter who allowed my 6 yr old to fall over the edge of the stairway. No excuse for that, imo.

Was it ever clarified if MS had ADD or some form of slight autism or whatever? Under that circumstance perhaps JS ought to have had more professional child care help than his 32 year old fashion plate trophy girlfriend and (as The lead investigator termed it) health nut?

And, a 6 year old kid engaging in........"horseplay"? who ever heard of such a thing! Must have been Becky's fault I guess.

 

[Bonepile]

I will wait and see what Rebecca's family attorney does in the weeks and months ahead.

I will wait and see what the forensic experts do with this police report

I will wait and see what the ME experts do with the body evidence

I will wait and see what the book authors do with the facts, and the fiction

Then I will see where I stand when all has been said, and all has been done, and I will bet it will be different than it was today.

 

[sorrell skye]

Unless she was a very dramatic or artistic type. I have known artists to do some wacky stuff when drunk, high or depressed. Does this match her personality though?

The ME stated that toxicology reports indicate there was no alcohol, nor were there drugs (RX or otherwise) in Rebecca's system.

 

[katydid23]

Blame her for going to the bathroom for a few minutes? What, was she supposed to cease all bodily functions when she was on child-watching duty?

Even blaming her for not delivering timely CPR is an awful far stretch. This is not to say that he didn't blame her; I bet he did, though that was not justified imho.

But we don't know what happened exactly. Was she in the bathroom?

If she went to the bathroom and Max was quietly playing in his room upstairs then I could see why she felt blameless perhaps. However if he had been playing around, trying to slide down the bannister, and she had to tell him to stop, and then she left him to go to the bathroom, then?

We don't really know how it all happened and it probably was not her fault, but being the adult in charge, it kind of falls on her.

 

[MyBelle]

You are actually making my point! LE says she was distraught and sorry for what had happened thus she killed herself. She felt so bad so did herself in. LE said NOTHING about anger or blame or anything else. There is a direct conflict in their theory with how she died. I don't disagree with you either -- it just doesn't jive with LE's telling of the events.:banghead:

I think LE was being respectful of RN. Blaming her wouldn't serve any purpose at this point. It's pretty easy to draw the conclusion that Maxie's fall could have been prevented if only he had been supervised.