CA-Sandra Cantu Missing 3/28/2009 from Tracy,#5

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I just read on my site that I can't post that ,,, a shed on the church property was where the crime took place,,, the church area is cordoned off and also the shed... and thinking the shed is where the crime took place...

OOo also that the Pastor and wife own space #57 in the trailer park...

Also the pastor's home has been searched..with evidence collected...

Clover Baptist church is 6 miles from the pond.

Is it ok that I named the church?
 
I still want to know more info on that guy that had the same address as the pastor at one point in time. He has an address in the MHP elsewhere now.

I wish I had a map of the lot numbers so I could see where these homes were situated.

JMHO
 
Mods,
Can we have a forum on Sandra's story? so we can search more?
 
I've finally caught up from where I left off last night. I went to bed thinking of little Sandra and woke up thinking of her. Such a heavy heart I have. There certainly doesn't seem to be much news about this. I'm in So Cal (Sandra's case is in Northern Cal) and the LA Times has NOTHING about her discovery in the paper today. I guess the brutal murder of a little child still is not a priority in our country. Maybe if it was, we'd have a better chance at preventing these monstrosities.
Bottom line is that anyone who molests a kid should be jailed for life. I think the evidence is great that these creeps do not get better and I believe they are all a 1/2 step from murder.
But, I think some of these murderers have either not offended before or have not been caught, so many are not even RSO's. How do you protect against them?
The pastor or someone connected with him and his church is looking important now.
Don't think it's Wohler because I don't think he'd have time to do anything nwith Sandra and still make it to his karate class. But he needs to be watched anyhow. Karate instructor, huh? Typical. Anyone remember the case in the 80's? of the boy kidnapped by his karate instructor and repeatedly molested? I believe they were caught in California. Dad shot and killed the perp after he landed from being extradited. That was a banner moment!
 
Thanks for the update. This whole story makes me sick. Such a beautiful little girl. Did they say what they were searching the church for?
 
Tracy church a crime scene in girl’s slaying (9:57 a.m.)

By The Record
April 07, 2009 12:58 PM

TRACY -- The Police Department, shifting gears from trying to find Sandra Cantu to trying to find her killer, has roped off Clover Road Baptist Church with yellow crime-scene tape.

The church is less than 100 yards west of Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park, where Cantu lived. The 8-year-old girl’s body was discovered Monday inside a suitcase floating in an irrigation pond two miles north of her home.

A residence inside the mobile-home park also has been roped off as a crime scene.

http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090407/A_NEWS/90407004/-1/A_SPECIAL0263

I thought that it was not floating but submerged in pond. If it was floating evidence inside the suitcase would be less likely to have been destroyed by the water. I suppose if it sunk it could be airtight if it was weighted down?
 
I just read on my site that I can't post that ,,, a shed on the church property was where the crime took place,,, the church area is cordoned off and also the shed... and thinking the shed is where the crime took place...

OOo also that the Pastor and wife own space #57 in the trailer park...

Also the pastor's home has been searched..

a shed, OMG...........
and in 20 years did the paster have any other victims?
 
Aside from duct tape over the mouth...
If the crime/s occurred in the shed...how would people have NOT heard something, especially at that time of day???

Will be back at noon...
 
A reporter from News10 talked to the guy who lives across the street from the church and he said hardly anyone attends the church and he rarely see's cars there.
 
I just read on my site that I can't post that ,,, a shed on the church property was where the crime took place,,, the church area is cordoned off and also the shed... and thinking the shed is where the crime took place...

OOo also that the Pastor and wife own space #57 in the trailer park...

Also the pastor's home has been searched..with evidence collected...

Clover Baptist church is 6 miles from the pond.

Is it ok that I named the church?

Are you getting that from the fact that the shed has crime tape or was it actually reported that that was where the crime occurred?
 
I still want to know more info on that guy that had the same address as the pastor at one point in time. He has an address in the MHP elsewhere now.

I wish I had a map of the lot numbers so I could see where these homes were situated.

JMHO

I have been offline Kat - can you tell me the other name or message me with it?
 
The pastor owns space #57 in that mobile home park...

A report... that is SUSPECT that the shed is the crime scene, police focusing their efforts on the shed...
 
I will never look at Hello Kitty without thinking of Sandra again!!!!!
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i know! last night after we found out, we put a candle on our front porch. my daughter brought down one of her Hello Kitty dolls and put it out there...heartbreaking...it just makes me feel like i can't keep the evils of the world from them like i wish i could...
 
Wait so the shed and church is not in the park, but the crime may have happened in the shed? So basically the perp took her out of the park alive?

Is this correct?
 
I just got caught up.... my heart is broken ..... I at least have some sunshine knowing that Sweet Sandra is up in Heaven playing with Ethan!

This is my FAVORITE Poem.... we read it at Ethan's memorial.... just wanted to share for Sandra.........

When Tomorrow Starts Without Me
Author believed to be
David Romano


When tomorrow starts without me,
And I'm not there to see,
If the sun should rise and find your eyes
all filled with tears for me,


I wish so much you wouldn't cry
The way you did today,
While thinking of the many things,
We didn't get to say.


I know how much you love me,
As much as I love you,
and each time that you think of me,
I know you'll miss me too.


But when tomorrow starts without me,
Please try to understand,
That an angel came and called my name,
And took me by the hand,
and said my place was ready,
In heaven far above,
And that I'd have to leave behind
All those I dearly love.


But as I turned to walk away,
A tear fell from my eye
For all my life, I'd always thought,
I didn't want to die.


I had so much to live for,
So much left yet to do,
It seemed almost impossible,
That I was leaving you.


I thought of all the yesterdays
The good ones and the bad,
I thought of all the love we shared,
and all the fun we had


If I could re-live yesterday
Just even for a while,
I'd say good-bye and kiss you
And maybe see you smile.


But then I fully realized,
That this could never be,
For emptiness and memories,
would take the place of me.


And when I thought of worldly things,
I might miss come tomorrow,
I thought of you, and when I did,
My heart was filled with sorrow.


But when I walked through heaven's gates,
I felt so much at home
When God looked down and smiled at me,
From His great golden throne.


He said, "This is eternity,
And all I've promised you."
Today your life on earth is past,
But here life starts anew


I promise no tomorrow,
But today will always last,
And since each day's the same way
There's no longing for the past.


You have been so faithful,
So trusting and so true.
Though there were times
You did some things
You knew you shouldn't do.


But you have been forgiven
And now at last you're free.
So won't you come and take my hand
And share my life with me?


So when tomorrow starts without me,
Don't think we're far apart,
For every time you think of me,
I'm right here, in your heart.
 
Aside from duct tape over the mouth...
If the crime/s occurred in the shed...how would people have NOT heard something, especially at that time of day???

Will be back at noon...

Duct tape over the mouth. *shivers*
 
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