Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #19

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves

New Posts

Status
Not open for further replies.
vlpate said:
Long version? Wondering what type of hose clamp you cut...I'm not handy and only know of the small hose clamps, so...
Click to expand...

.
You can use bull nose cutters or side cutters.
 
northXnorthwest1 said:
I realize that, but I think the type of person you're talking about isn't the type of person who would have ever let her go and would have made sure no one else did, either. JMHO


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

There are plenty - Bundy and Bernardo come to mind. There are others. We need Rayemonde for a more detailed list. I'm always amazed.

Edit: replied to wrong thing
 
Jethro4WS said:
"She was bound. She had a chain around her waist. She has a bag over her head.I can't remember if it's her right or her left arm, was chained to the chain and her left hand was in the vehicle chained to something."

That is what I keyed on.
Click to expand...

Right but it seems as if he is mis-speaking. If he doesn't know which arm is chained to the waist chain, then he doesn't know which hand is the other hand that is chained to something else.

Plus, in the GMA interview (not 20/20), he states that "she was thrown from a vehicle with a chain around her waist, attached to her wrists and a bag over her head."

I think he's speaking off the cuff (well, not the GMA piece because that was a prepared statement) and is either getting some of the specifics confused or is just mis-speaking. Because the different things don't jive with each other.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
northXnorthwest1 said:
I realize that, but I think the type of person you're talking about isn't the type of person who would have ever let her go and would have made sure no one else did, either. JMHO


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

I think the fact that they let her go speaks of inexperience. These abductors were newbies. They know how these things work becuase they've always been the underling. They're out driving around, drinking...complaining about working for "the man." They see Sherri and an impulsive decision was made to go rogue. But they had no idea what exactly they were getting in to. How's that for some fiction:))
 
northXnorthwest1 said:
It makes sense to me. The one person in the car was driving. They didn't want SP to jump out until they were ready for her to do it. They also didn't want to have to get out of the vehicle and come around to let her out because that could have exposed them to passing motorists.

So let's envision SP being in the right rear. She has one arm/hand tied to the waist chain. Let's say it's the left. The other limb, the right one, is chained to something heavy/stationary inside the vehicle - like underneath a seat.

When the perp is at the drop-off point, they possibly point a gun at SP and tell her to put her right hand on the door handle and keep it there. They then cut the chain from the seat with a bolt cutter and order her out.

At that point she is of no risk to the perp's personal safety. Her left arm is secured to the waist chain, so she can't lunge forward to the front to try to grab hair or rake nails across skin to get DNA. Keep in mind she also still has the bag over her head.

Her only move is to open the right rear door with her right hand and jump out. As soon as her feet hit the ground, the perp hits the gas hard and the movement forward causes the door to shut.

That is pretty much how I would do it if I were solely in charge of letting her go but wanted to protect myself in the process.
Click to expand...

I think the gun and child locks would work...or just the gun. People are carjacking every day, not to mention the number of females that perps manage to keep in a car with a gag (which was not mentioned in this case) and a knife or gun. According to KP or LE, I forget which, she was chained and hooded anytime she was in the car.

If they were worried about someone seeing them and so they did what they could to not be noticed..the hood and chains make no sense. IMO
 
bluesneakers said:
There are plenty - Bundy and Bernardo come to mind. There are others. We need Rayemonde for a more detailed list. I'm always amazed.

Edit: replied to wrong thing
Click to expand...

It sure looks like you replied to the right post. Lol
 
vlpate said:
I think the gun and child locks would work...or just the gun. People are carjacking every day, not to mention the number of females that perps manage to keep in a car with a gag (which was not mentioned in this case) and a knife or gun. According to KP or LE, I forget which, she was chained and hooded anytime she was in the car.

If they were worried about someone seeing them and so they did what they could to not be noticed..the hood and chains make no sense. IMO
Click to expand...

Unless these people don't have children and don't know how to work the child locks.
 
lmr said:
That is a good thought. You don't find Tornado shelters in Northern Cal..I lived there for several years. However, in the Redding area there used to be a lot of preppers. So the survival bunker is a possibility.
Click to expand...


Hmm... I agree, that is a possibility. A bunker might be supplied with enough food for three weeks, too.

jmopinion
 
northXnorthwest1 said:
Right but it seems as if he is mis-speaking. If he doesn't know which arm is chained to the waist chain, then he doesn't know which hand is the other hand that is chained to something else.

Plus, in the GMA interview (not 20/20), he states that "she was thrown from a vehicle with a chain around her waist, attached to her wrists and a bag over her head."

I think he's speaking off the cuff and is either getting some of the specifics confused or is just mis-speaking. Because the different things don't jive with each other.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Oh, I understand. I was just pointing out what I keyed in on. Like I said it may mean nothing.
 
vlpate said:
I think the gun and child locks would work...or just the gun. People are carjacking every day, not to mention the number of females that perps manage to keep in a car with a gag (which was not mentioned in this case) and a knife or gun. According to KP or LE, I forget which, she was chained and hooded anytime she was in the car.

If they were worried about someone seeing them and so they did what they could to not be noticed..the hood and chains make no sense. IMO
Click to expand...

Not sure you understood. I was saying the driver didn't want to have to get out and walk around to let SP out. That's where the "not wanting to be noticed" comes in.

SP is in the rear at 4 am. If the SUV is like mine, the rear windows are tinted darker than the ones up front. So no one is going to see her until she is out of the vehicle and the perp has left the scene.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

DNASolves

Who is DeKalb County John Doe (2022)?

Members online

... and 176 more.
Total: 3,614 (members: 177, guests: 3,437)

Online statistics

Members online
177
Guests online
3,437
Total visitors
3,614
Totals may include hidden visitors.

Forum statistics

Threads
602,576
Messages
18,142,793
Members
231,439
Latest member
MsIris1127
Back
Top