Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #22

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I can totally understand why she wouldn't run and knock on various doors that she passed by. Having just been chained up in someone's home, she had no idea who lived in the little houses she ran past.

She could have jumped out of the frying pan into the fire.

I completely understand why she would rather run to a public area and have someone call 911, then run into someones yard and knock on an unknown door.

I can't imagine being able to make a decision on space and orientation if dropped ("thrown") from an moving position, hooded, then make a decision in which direction to go.
 
For those still wondering where the broken nose reference (s) may have come from, this is from KP's thank you letter to everyone who helped him find his wife, donate money to his family, etc.

"The officers warned me to brace myself. My first sight was my wife in a hospital bed, her face covered in bruises ranging from yellow to black because of repeated beatings, the bridge of her nose broken".

There may be others but I just came across this when re-reading his letter.

I mean that's a detailed description of serious injuries. But she was only there in the hospital for hours. Why?

There are numerous stories out there dating from November 29th, 2016 that says the Sheriff confirmed the injuries that Keith mentioned.

LE does state she was injured and was treated and they believe her story.

But again with the contradictions. Yes they believe her but they are investigating her communications and activities. And they never describe her injuries the way KP does. I mean they acknowledge she's injured but he described horrific injuries. They don't.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-rea...is-story-investigating-past/story?id=43816705
 
Does the video show what time she was seen walking? Wondering if it was right after she was dropped off, or if she walked around trying to figure out what she should do? Or maybe even hid from that abductor?
 
Thanks for posting. The impression I get is that both the interviewer and KP assumed two people dropped her off.

Slightly OT:
Throughout my years as a journalist, I made one big mistake. One big, embarrassing mistake. It stemmed from an assumption. At one point, I had assumed something and over time, it registered as a fact in my head, which is how I later presented it. It went through my editor and the proofreaders. No one had noticed it until it was in print.

Case in point: people, even those with good intentions - journalists, the family members of a victim of a crime, LE, you name it - make mistakes, and we all certainly make mistakes when it comes to wording, especially when we are trying to recall and reiterate something that someone else said or had happen to them. (See, there I go with "them." :))

I have no idea what happened in this case. I have been following it from the beginning - obviously, I don't post much, - and I have been on the fence pretty much all along. As far as I'm concerned, either camp (are there only two camps, even?) could be 100% right. I just don't know.
That said, it is my firm belief that we will not get closer to finding out the truth by dissecting every single word that people (none of them Sherri, by the way) have said over the past year, a lot of it briefly after she had been discovered by the side of the road, when most of everything must have been complete chaos.

MOO, as always.
 
I mean that's a detailed description of serious injuries. But she was only there in the hospital for hours. Why?



LE does state she was injured and was treated and they believe her story.

But again with the contradictions. Yes they believe her but they are investigating her communications and activities. And they never describe her injuries the way KP does. I mean they acknowledge she's injured but he described horrific injuries. They don't.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-rea...is-story-investigating-past/story?id=43816705

Maybe insurance or lack of insurance? I mean the security guard at Mandalay Bay was shot in the leg, had bullet fragment removed, yet was released and traveled to Mexico within a week.

I know in my area, you've got to be seriously sick before you're admitted. Yet when I was working as a nurse a decade ago, I'd send patients to the ER to be admitted, and they were. Now for the same symptoms or diagnosis, they give an antibiotic, or cleanse a wound and stitch and you're on your way home. Sometimes they'll keep you in the 'observation ward' which is monitoring for 24hrs and then released.

Another rant for another day, as I don't want to derail this thread...but daggone medical care sucks now.
 
FBI STATEMENT :
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/unknown-individuals

"Sherri was wearing light gray sweatpants and a darker gray sweatshirt when located."
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EARLIER STATEMENTS :

"Then 22 days later, the petite blonde*was discovered*bruised, shackled and partially clothed on the side of a road 150 miles from her home."

*https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/sherri-papini-had-male-dna-on-her-body/

"was found on Papini when she was discovered partially clothed and shackled alongside Interstate 5 on Thanksgiving."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sherri-papini-shasta-20171025-story.html

At night it's dark out here;*it is black. There are no lights out here,” she said. “She was out in the cold in a T-shirt and I remember thinking, ‘She's got to be freezing because it was cold.”*


*http://www.insideedition.com/woman-...e-says-shes-still-haunted-look-her-eyes-37546

"Sutton said she couldn't tell if Papini was wearing any restraints when she saw her"

How did SP find clothes and get shackled after AS saw her???

I KNOW what I thought.
Police state DNA wasn't from trucker or EMS.

"The profiles did not match that of her husband nor the truck driver who discovered her."

http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...n-sherri-papini-kidnapping-case/Investigators

"have ruled out the possibility that the man's DNA came from Papini's husband, and Jackson said police also do not believe it came from the truck driver or emergency responders."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/male-dna-and-text-messages-found-in-california-moms

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If I could have one thing in this case it would be to see her roots right at the time they pick her up. Yes, I said her roots. She colors / bleaches her hair. So much has been made of her captors humiliating her by cutting off her shoulder length hair. I could maybe believe that humiliation thing if they shaved her head. And I'll even stretch my disbelieving a bit by entertaining the idea that maybe they chose to go only shoulder length because they worried a woman with a shaved head would attract attention if they had to go out in public. As if 2 women with bandana's wrapped around their faces wouldn't attract attention, but I digress. Or having their victim with a bag over her head wouldn't attract attention. If they were really into degrading her, I am sure they would not have let her touch up her roots. So I sure hope we get to see this alleged video.
So if those roots came back touched up, then there are just more crazy aspects to this tale we are going to have to struggle with.
BIB: I think you mean...by cutting off her WAIST length hair. Sherri had waist length hair and her captors cut it to shoulder length. She had beautiful long waist length hair, it was her trade mark according to KP so I can believe she may have felt humiliated having it chopped off. If she was indeed held captive I doubt whoever chopped her hair off styled it nicely--it'd be just CHOP CHOP CHOP. MOO
 
hmmm but what kind of maintenance does hair that length and colour require? Was there any obvious change? Were the captors sympathetic?
 
This is one of the most widely circulated photos of Sherri. It doesn't seem to me like she was extremely meticulous about getting her roots done, anyway.

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FBI STATEMENT :
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/unknown-individuals

"Sherri was wearing light gray sweatpants and a darker gray sweatshirt when located."
----------------

EARLIER STATEMENTS :

"Then 22 days later, the petite blonde*was discovered*bruised, shackled and partially clothed on the side of a road 150 miles from her home."

*https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/sherri-papini-had-male-dna-on-her-body/

"was found on Papini when she was discovered partially clothed and shackled alongside Interstate 5 on Thanksgiving."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sherri-papini-shasta-20171025-story.html

At night it's dark out here;*it is black. There are no lights out here,” she said. “She was out in the cold in a T-shirt and I remember thinking, ‘She's got to be freezing because it was cold.”*


*http://www.insideedition.com/woman-...e-says-shes-still-haunted-look-her-eyes-37546

"Sutton said she couldn't tell if Papini was wearing any restraints when she saw her"

How did SP find clothes and get shackled after AS saw her???

I KNOW what I thought.
Police state DNA wasn't from trucker or EMS.

"The profiles did not match that of her husband nor the truck driver who discovered her."

http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...n-sherri-papini-kidnapping-case/Investigators

"have ruled out the possibility that the man's DNA came from Papini's husband, and Jackson said police also do not believe it came from the truck driver or emergency responders."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/male-dna-and-text-messages-found-in-california-moms

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The FBI poster also refers to the latinas women just as people they are seeking info from. They do not call them suspects or POIs. They also never use the word abduction - only “disappearance”. At the bottom of the poster it says to contact them if you have any info regarding Sherri’s “whereabouts” during that time.

I think the FBI poster is telling. JMO


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How long does it take for roots to grow out on bleached hair? She was gone three weeks. How much would they grow out in that time?
I ask because I honestly don't know, as I have never had my hair bleached.
Very interesting line of thinking, maybe that is why they aren't showing the video or any photos of her.
Because seriously, since nobody except it seems 20/20 has seen photos of her, I think that is one of the big reasons why there is so much doubt.
Not that she owes it to anyone to show photos, but I have read so many people doubt the extent of her injuries it isn't even funny.
Root touch ups are generally every 4-6 weeks from what I read. It depends on how fast your hair grows.

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Root touch ups are generally every 4-6 weeks from what I read. It depends on how fast your hair grows.

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And what color your hair is underneath. I have dark hair and I dye it darker, but if I dyed it blonde with my dark hair underneath, the roots would show pretty quickly... well, my annoying roots would :crazy:
 
I mean that's a detailed description of serious injuries. But she was only there in the hospital for hours. Why?



LE does state she was injured and was treated and they believe her story.

But again with the contradictions. Yes they believe her but they are investigating her communications and activities. And they never describe her injuries the way KP does. I mean they acknowledge she's injured but he described horrific injuries. They don't.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-rea...is-story-investigating-past/story?id=43816705

KP said the bridge of her nose was broken. LE never said that. Matt Gutman (ABC News) said on Good Morning America something to the effect that SP was battered beyond recognition (can't remember the exact words). Allison Sutton says Sherri "didn't look hurt, but she did look scared."

So many contradictions.

Another one: Sutton said SP was not dressed for the chilly weather. "She was out in the cold in a tee shirt," she said. But LE say she was in a sweatshirt. Maybe she was in a sweat shirt cut off at the sleeves, but you'd think LE would have mentioned that.
 
Maybe insurance or lack of insurance? I mean the security guard at Mandalay Bay was shot in the leg, had bullet fragment removed, yet was released and traveled to Mexico within a week.

I know in my area, you've got to be seriously sick before you're admitted. Yet when I was working as a nurse a decade ago, I'd send patients to the ER to be admitted, and they were. Now for the same symptoms or diagnosis, they give an antibiotic, or cleanse a wound and stitch and you're on your way home. Sometimes they'll keep you in the 'observation ward' which is monitoring for 24hrs and then released.

Another rant for another day, as I don't want to derail this thread...but daggone medical care sucks now.
Yes, this! Even if she had a head injury, they probably wouldn't have kept her (plus that could have happened on any of the 22 days she was gone, and possibly when she broke her nose). My nephew was skateboarding and had a serious accident where he slammed his head into the concrete, was knocked out, had a concussion, was in a lot of pain, went to the ER, and was sent home that day.

It seems like unless you need immediate surgical intervention, a stroke or heart attack are suspected, or a handful of other things, ERs do not end up admitting you.

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FBI STATEMENT :
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/unknown-individuals

"Sherri was wearing light gray sweatpants and a darker gray sweatshirt when located."
----------------

EARLIER STATEMENTS :

"Then 22 days later, the petite blonde*was discovered*bruised, shackled and partially clothed on the side of a road 150 miles from her home."

*https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/sherri-papini-had-male-dna-on-her-body/

"was found on Papini when she was discovered partially clothed and shackled alongside Interstate 5 on Thanksgiving."

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sherri-papini-shasta-20171025-story.html

At night it's dark out here;*it is black. There are no lights out here,” she said. “She was out in the cold in a T-shirt and I remember thinking, ‘She's got to be freezing because it was cold.”*


*http://www.insideedition.com/woman-...e-says-shes-still-haunted-look-her-eyes-37546

"Sutton said she couldn't tell if Papini was wearing any restraints when she saw her"

How did SP find clothes and get shackled after AS saw her???

I KNOW what I thought.
Police state DNA wasn't from trucker or EMS.

"The profiles did not match that of her husband nor the truck driver who discovered her."

http://www.capradio.org/articles/20...n-sherri-papini-kidnapping-case/Investigators

"have ruled out the possibility that the man's DNA came from Papini's husband, and Jackson said police also do not believe it came from the truck driver or emergency responders."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/male-dna-and-text-messages-found-in-california-moms

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I see you pointed out the sweat shirt inconsistency I just mentioned. Thanks PB!
 
KP said the bridge of her nose was broken. LE never said that. Matt Gutman (ABC News) said on Good Morning America something to the effect that SP was battered beyond recognition (can't remember the exact words). Allison Sutton says Sherri "didn't look hurt, but she did look scared."

So many contradictions.

Another one: Sutton said SP was not dressed for the chilly weather. "She was out in the cold in a tee shirt," she said. But LE say she was in a sweatshirt. Maybe she was in a sweat shirt cut off at the sleeves, but you'd think LE would have mentioned that.

It's impossible to properly Sleuth this case with all that going on. :scared:
 
And what color your hair is underneath. I have dark hair and I dye it darker, but if I dyed it blonde with my dark hair underneath, the roots would show pretty quickly... well, my annoying roots would :crazy:
Yes. She seems to have very light eyebrows, and eyebrows tend to generally be darker than our natural hair color anyway, so I assume she does actually have fairly light natural hair. I'm not even sure we should be assuming she dyes it. She may just highlight it or something. I don't think it would be very noticeable.

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Yes. She seems to have very light eyebrows, and eyebrows tend to generally be darker than our natural hair color anyway, so I assume she does actually have fairly light natural hair. I'm not even sure we should be assuming she dyes it. She may just highlight it or something. I don't think it would be very noticeable.

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I agree. She is probably a natural blonde with highlights. FWIW I can’t go more than 3 weeks or so without having to get my graying roots done. It really hurts for me to write that...
 
KP said the bridge of her nose was broken. LE never said that. Matt Gutman (ABC News) said on Good Morning America something to the effect that SP was battered beyond recognition (can't remember the exact words). Allison Sutton says Sherri "didn't look hurt, but she did look scared."

So many contradictions.

Another one: Sutton said SP was not dressed for the chilly weather. "She was out in the cold in a tee shirt," she said. But LE say she was in a sweatshirt. Maybe she was in a sweat shirt cut off at the sleeves, but you'd think LE would have mentioned that.

Who is Allison Sutton?
 
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