SophieRose
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Update as of yesterday from their church
This says they were seen leaving their house. I wish they elaborated on that. Seen in the vehicle on video camera? Seen by neighbors getting in the car? How were they seen?
I noticed that.That page also mentions an "outside investor" <modsnip - parties who are neither victim nor named POI can not be named on the thread> which is also the first name of one of the defendants in the harassment lawsuits.
That page also mentions an "outside investor" <modsnip - parties who are neither victim nor named POI can not be named on the thread> which is also the first name of one of the defendants in the harassment lawsuits.
"They don't deserve this. ... They're just good people. They go to church. They don't deserve any of this," Sandy Marinelli, who has been friends with the couple for more than a decade, told CBS News."They) went inside their home to see if they would be OK inside and they didn't find them in there," Marinelli said. "It was just very suspicious for them to be gone."The name mentioned, M, is also metioned in one of the articles above as a friend and neighbour of the Menards
Thanks for that! - I drew a big zero when looking for cases in the Bernadino County court site under their names. Trellis requires a subscription to view the documents though was I couldn't see any details - maybe another member here has a subscription. UPDATE: I found the cases if I entered first name and last name (normal court search engines have you enter last name comma first name.) The three cases came up. In one, a request for a restraining order against the harasser was denied by the court but the case is active. One case was dismissed, the third is active and judgement was entered in June according to case notes but no details. Public Portal - Superior Court of California, County of San Bernardino*There are three here for Civil Harrassment all filed on the same day for Stephanie.
Dockets related to "menard, stephanie" | Trellis
Dockets related to "menard, stephanie" in Superior Court cases - Page 1trellis.law
That Google review is interesting . . .Is that what this might be?
DWSAP Assessment for 3600187-002: OLIVE DELL RANCH / WELL 02
San Bernardino County
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It is, isn't it?That Google review is interesting . . .
I wonder if that’s the only security camera around. I imagine most security cameras (i.e. neighbors’ Ring cameras) wouldn’t be allowed at nudist resorts, for resident/guest privacy.There is clearly a security camera on the building near the gated entrance. I assume police have checked the footage.
Has there been mention of how advanced Daniel’s dementia is? Wondering if he has a habit of wandering from home.Police say that Daniel suffers from dementia and is diabetic, adding urgency to their search for the missing couple.
I haven't seen any other mention i wondered about him wandering and stephanie going after him but she didnt even have her cane to get to the car in the first place if her cane was found indoors. Sounds like her friend that was in the news articles is all up in that lawsuit with them. Shes got to be so worried about Stephanie since Stephanie is the only one mentioned, as the protected party, nothing in Daniel's name.Has there been mention of how advanced Daniel’s dementia is? Wondering if he has a habit of wandering from home.
This says they were seen leaving their house. I wish they elaborated on that. Seen in the vehicle on video camera? Seen by neighbors getting in the car? How were they seen?
jmo
Thank you for posting what appears to be more accurate info!Yes, very frustrating.
I don't think that is an official police poster, and IMO it may have garbled the details.
The police statement was posted earlier
"Both subjects were last seen at their residence in the 26000 block of Keissel Road, at approximately 10 a.m. Aug. 24, 2024.
The Menards' unlocked vehicle was located down the road from their residence the same day."
So, according to police, they were seen at the home Sat am (not necessarily leaving it). Their car was found Saturday afternoon, not Sunday as is stated in the missing poster.
The car seems to not have been followed up on that Saturday, it seems it was only when they missed church that someone checked their home and officially reported to police.
IMO, if someone did indeed see them leaving the house, then police are keeping those details back.
JMO
Why would a kidnapper also take the couple’s dog though? Seems like that would only complicate things, especially if Cuddles is rambunctious or a barker.Not any single news until 1 h ago mention the dog as found unfortunately, I’ m starting to seiously think they were abducted and or killed, possibly linked to the lawsuit indeed, and I hope to be terribly wrong
It's hard to know the terrain where the car was found. Keissel Road is both a suburban street lined with homes, and a dirt road through the dry hillsWhy would a kidnapper also take the couple’s dog though? Seems like that would only complicate things, especially if Cuddles is rambunctious or a barker.
Even if the dog got out during the melee, I doubt a little shih tzu would get too far. Probably wait around for his owners to return, or head to a familiar neighbor’s?
If she didn't leave on her own, then someone had to have carried her.
jmo