CANADA CANADA - 83 Missing & Murdered women of Edmonton, Alberta

[Sillybilly]

RCMP acknowledge first stages of Amber Tuccaro investigation were mishandled ...

EDMONTON - The mother of a slain northern Alberta woman has filed a federal public complaint against an Edmonton-area RCMP detachment over its investigation of the murder.

full article:
http://globalnews.ca/news/1222554/complaint-filed-over-alberta-womans/

Doesn't specify what those allegations consist of.

 

[dotr]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/family-of-amber-tuccaro-files-complaint-against-rcmp-1.2620875

"The family of Amber Tuccaro, a woman originally from Fort Chipewyan found dead near Edmonton in 2012, has filed a complaint against the Leduc RCMP saying the investigation into the 20-year-old's disappearance was botched.

The official complaint says investigators downplayed Amber Tuccaro's disappearance in 2010 and took her off the missing persons list after one month, even though no one had seen her."

 

[dotr]

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2014/05/01/21642716.html
bbm.
"RCMP reportedly uncover more than 1,000 cases of missing or murdered aboriginal women"




"The RCMP is currently completing a national operational review to gain the most accurate account to date of missing and murdered aboriginal women in Canada," spokeswoman Greg Cox told QMI Agency. "The report is not finalized and it would be premature to further comment at this point."

The Native Women's Association of Canada, using secondary sources such as media reports and court rulings, pegged the number at 580, with most occurring between 1990 and 2010 and few dating back to the '70s. Earlier information is hard to track down, the report said.

Ottawa researcher Maryanne Pearce pegged the number at 824 in January."


UPDATE

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2014/05/01/21642716.html

"RCMP uncovers 1,186 cases of missing or murdered aboriginal women"

 

[Woodland]

This is a mind boggling number imo from one demographic. Looking forward to a breakdown of locations, time frames etc.

Wonder how 1,186 compares to murders by domestic partners in the same time-frame of 30 years.

 

[Sillybilly]

Things would be different if we were talking about 1,186 murdered or missing white women

...

The RCMP report will point out that “aboriginal women make up four per cent of Canada’s population; however, they represent 16 per cent of all murdered females and 12 per cent of all missing females on record,” Sgt. Greg Cox said Friday.

As Patrick Brazeau pointed out in 2012, back when he was still a senator, this government spent $26 million on a public inquiry into missing salmon.

“If we can have a national inquiry on fish, I’m sure we can give the respect to aboriginal peoples and offer an inquiry.”

from:
http://www.theprovince.com/news/Thi...rdered+missing+white+women/9801810/story.html

Maybe ALL women in Canada should tell Mr. Harper they won't vote for him unless there IS an inquiry. That oughtta get the ball rolling.

 

[dotr]

Re posting audio of Amber Tuccaro and poi ...

Searching for clues in missing woman's last phone call - YouTube

 

[dotr]

http://www.nwac.ca/files/download/NWAC_3D_Toolkit_e_0.pdf


bbm.
"Fact Sheet: Missing and Murdered
Aboriginal Women and Girls
Native Women’s Association of Canada (NWAC) has created a database of missing and murdered
Aboriginal women and girls. NWAC has worked hard to research every case, yet we believe there
are still many more cases to document. The statistics below are based on NWAC’s database as of
March 31, 2010.
NWAC has gathered information about 582 cases of missing and murdered
Aboriginal women and girls.
Of these:
67% are murder cases (death as the result of homicide or negligence);
20% are cases of missing women or girls;
4% are cases of suspicious death—deaths regarded as natural or accidental by police, but
considered suspicious by family or community members; and
9% are cases where the nature of the case is unknown—it is unclear whether the woman was
murdered, is missing or died in suspicious circumstances.
This issue impacts all Aboriginal
women and girls—First Nations, Métis
and Inuit.
The number of missing and murdered
Aboriginal women and girls in Canada
is disproportionately high.
NWAC’s
research indicates that, between 2000
and 2008, Aboriginal women and girls
represented approximately 10% of all female
homicides in Canada. However, Aboriginal
women make up only 3% of the
female population"

 

[dotr]

RCMP numbers update ..
bbm.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2014/05/16/21676346.html

"May 16, 2014



A new report from the RCMP says between 1980 and 2012, there have been 1,181 homicides and unresolved missing person cases involving aboriginal women.

RCMP Deputy Commissioner Janice Armstrong said of those cases, 160 were missing persons cases, 1,017 were homicide cases. She also noted 225 remain unsolved."

 

[Woodland]

While this new info is good, it's as minimal as the RCMP could get. Jmo.

The RCMP are not asking for, therefore will not receive, public input on what someone may or may not know.

Where are the 225 unsolved cases? Where did the other cases occur?

Frankly, the aboriginal people seem just as secretive to me - they want help, they have produced a list as well - but finding their info is just as difficult and or impossible imo.

The whole issue is a mess on both sides, imo. Distrust abounds on both sides and imo, both sides need to take large strides towards each other to make something happen and prevent future murders. Otherwise, it will go on, and on, and on ......

Imo, both sides have the public weary and worn down on this - is that what both sides want? If so, well done. If not - get busy. Jmo.

Sorry for the rant, but I just don't get why there are two sides to this issue instead of all for one, and one for all.

 

[dotr]

While this new info is good, it's as minimal as the RCMP could get. Jmo.

The RCMP are not asking for, therefore will not receive, public input on what someone may or may not know.

Where are the 225 unsolved cases? Where did the other cases occur?

Frankly, the aboriginal people seem just as secretive to me - they want help, they have produced a list as well - but finding their info is just as difficult and or impossible imo.

The whole issue is a mess on both sides, imo. Distrust abounds on both sides and imo, both sides need to take large strides towards each other to make something happen and prevent future murders. Otherwise, it will go on, and on, and on ......

Imo, both sides have the public weary and worn down on this - is that what both sides want? If so, well done. If not - get busy. Jmo.

Sorry for the rant, but I just don't get why there are two sides to this issue instead of all for one, and one for all.

At this point, all resources should be invested in catching these killers and finding their victims. jmo.

 

[Woodland]

One of the biggest resources would be the public - neither side seems interested. Jmo.

 

[dotr]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...y-to-suffer-violent-death-rcmp-says-1.2644827


"I can tell you as police officers, we see these tragic circumstances playing out in communities first-hand," said assistant commissioner Kevin Brosseau of RCMP D Division (Manitoba).

"And while we'll present our findings in terms of statistics and numbers, we never lose sight of the fact that each and every statistic, each and every number, is an aboriginal woman, is an aboriginal girl that is somebody's mother, somebody's sister, somebody's daughter and somebody's loved one.”

Since 1980 the rate of women who are victims of homicide has trended down, except the rate for aboriginal women, which has increased, the report states.

Police forces across Canada have solved 88 per cent of aboriginal female homicides since 1980 and 89 per cent of cases involving non-natives"

 

[Woodland]

It's a problem already - we know that. The RCMP and every other LE agency is saying nothing of value to the public, along with the aboriginal sector that is speaking to the public.

We know nothing.

"It is important to have a snapshot in time with respect to what the data is, what the numbers are, what the vulnerability factors are," RCMP Supt. Tyler Bates said. "The next phase of this that we're really excited about is the broader social conversation that needs to take place with community agencies, with aboriginal leadership, health and social services that are participating in looking at these vulnerability factors and providing recommendations and working towards hopefully preventing these occurrences in the future."

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/05/1...view-on-missing-and-murdered-aboriginal-women

According to the RCMP - it's important to have a snapshot in time with respect to what the data is and they are excited about the broader social conversation that needs to take place - with all due respect, give me a break when speaking but saying nothing.

Where the hell did these flipping unsolved murders take place? And just as important - what the heck is the profile of the perp(s) that everyone likes to speak about? I have heard one. One person is responsible for 225 unsolved murders, or many people?

In other words, I/we know sfa. But an inquiry is in order? Who is going to speak?

 

[Woodland]

24 hours before my above rant on lack of info, the RCMP had in fact published findings on the issue many have been wanting.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...y-to-suffer-violent-death-rcmp-says-1.2644827

The stats are very sad -

Key findings in the report:

Of the 1,181 investigations, 1,017 are aboriginal female homicide victims between 1980 and 2012 and 164 women are considered missing.

Currently, there are 225 unsolved cases: 120 are homicides, 105 are missing or foul play suspected.

Aboriginal women make up 16 per cent of all murdered women on record, five per cent of all murders on record and 11.3 per cent of all missing women on record.​

Aboriginal women are most likely to be murdered by an acquaintance (30 per cent), spouse (29 per cent), or family member (24 per cent).

More than 90 per cent of indigenous female murder victims knew their killer, RCMP said.

The picture is pretty clear imo - aboriginal women are being killed for the most part by their own people - mostly family.

Isolation will do that - which imo, is the problem here. It's true for other cultures.

This is what needs to be addressed now, however the Cody Legebokoff types are still out there - seems to the sum of 10% or so of murdered aboriginal women.

RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson and his team did a great job imo on this report. It's what Canadians, and LE, needed to know. Thank-you.

So where are CL types operating? How many of the 225 unsolved murders of aboriginal women are not by their own people? Help us understand Commissioner Paulson?

 

[otto]

RCMP numbers update ..
bbm.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2014/05/16/21676346.html

"May 16, 2014

A new report from the RCMP says between 1980 and 2012, there have been 1,181 homicides and unresolved missing person cases involving aboriginal women.

RCMP Deputy Commissioner Janice Armstrong said of those cases, 160 were missing persons cases, 1,017 were homicide cases. She also noted 225 remain unsolved."

"The report also found that close to 90 per cent of all female homicides are resolved and that "there is little difference" in solve rates between aboriginal and non-aboriginal victims."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/num...riginal-women-surprises-top-mountie-1.2645674

 

[otto]

While this new info is good, it's as minimal as the RCMP could get. Jmo.

The RCMP are not asking for, therefore will not receive, public input on what someone may or may not know.

Where are the 225 unsolved cases? Where did the other cases occur?

Frankly, the aboriginal people seem just as secretive to me - they want help, they have produced a list as well - but finding their info is just as difficult and or impossible imo.

The whole issue is a mess on both sides, imo. Distrust abounds on both sides and imo, both sides need to take large strides towards each other to make something happen and prevent future murders. Otherwise, it will go on, and on, and on ......

Imo, both sides have the public weary and worn down on this - is that what both sides want? If so, well done. If not - get busy. Jmo.

Sorry for the rant, but I just don't get why there are two sides to this issue instead of all for one, and one for all.

I don't see two sides. The rate of murders is higher in the aboriginal community where the perp is usually the spouse, a family member, or an acquaintance of the victim. This clearly means that aboriginals are murdering aboriginal women. The rate is also higher due to aboriginal women entering the sex trade industry - which is often related to drug abuse (sniffing glue), low income, victimization during youth, and lack of education.

My understanding of the report is that there is little difference in solve rates for murdered women in Canada, regardless of their ancestry and nationality. I also came away with the understanding that change needs to come from within the aboriginal community before the murder rates can be reduced. Aboriginals have received millions of Canadian tax payer money to manage their education, their social structure, their communities, and to examine why aboriginal women are murdered by their spouses, family members and acquaintances. Aboriginals want Canadian tax payers to pay for a national inquiry into why there are problems in their communities, but when the government has tried to intervene, the aboriginal community does not want to cooperate. A national inquiry would be a huge waste of money.

The bottom line is that aboriginal murders are treated no differently than any other murder, and that aboriginal communities need to make change through education. However, when it comes to standardizing the aboriginal curriculum to prepare aboriginal children for an international community, this is the response:

"[Diane Beauvais] said schools in Kahnawake are constantly improving their graduation and literacy rates, and what they need from the government is financial support ... without interference in their curriculum."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/aboriginal/f...day-of-resistance-in-several-cities-1.2642985

 

[otto]

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How many of the 225 unsolved murders of aboriginal women are not by their own people? Help us understand Commissioner Paulson?

According to the report, aboriginal women are usually murdered by spouses, family members, or acquaintances. This would suggest that the majority of perps have as little as 1/16 aboriginal nationality, and live in aboriginal communities.

Clearly it is absurd to suggest that non-aboriginal people are specifically targeting aboriginal women when they want to murder someone, but I suspect that this is the thinking behind the demand for a national inquiry. A national inquiry will take us in a big circle where the conclusion will be that there are problems in aboriginal communities, that education is the best solution, that aboriginals want autonomy regarding curriculum, and that nothing changes ... except Canadian taxpayers will be out millions of dollars.

 

[otto]

At this point, all resources should be invested in catching these killers and finding their victims. jmo.

If 88% of aboriginal women murders are unsolved, and 89% or non-aboriginal murders are unsolved, should all resources be invested in arresting all murderers, or only those that murdered aboriginal women?

It seems that aboriginal peoples want to wear the victim armband. What if non-aboriginal women demanded a national inquiry to find out why 11% of murdered women during the last 33 years are unsolved? Does that seem like a reasonable demand?

 

[Woodland]

I'm really thankful RCMP Commissioner Paulson appears to have given all relevant facts Canadians wanted and not skewed anything. Let's help him for helping us by sticking with what we now know?

 

[dotr]

If 88% of aboriginal women murders are unsolved, and 89% or non-aboriginal murders are unsolved, should all resources be invested in arresting all murderers, or only those that murdered aboriginal women?

It seems that aboriginal peoples want to wear the victim armband. What if non-aboriginal women demanded a national inquiry to find out why 11% of murdered women during the last 33 years are unsolved? Does that seem like a reasonable demand?

All killers, all victims - no distinction except that female murders tend to be sexual motivated imo.and that makes me angry.
In this particular case, involving Amber T. the poi's voice is captured in phone call, so seems like a good place to start.
Personally, politics do not interest me, just posting to document and hoping LE get their man, or woman.