Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 June 2014 - #7

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Watson-1975 said:
The involvement of people in the drug scene as manufactures or growers forces a reclusive lifestyle of sorts, hermit style living especially if the venture is highly lucrative. typically when the venture is that lucrative, there will be a higher level of organized crime controlling the venture. DG back ground and experiences with chemicals makes him skilled in that business operation.

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I'm guessing that LE found no evidence that DG is still manufacturing drugs otherwise they would have taken the opportunity to charge him with that to keep him in custody longer.
 
Menci said:
The following also drew my attention from this article:

Prevost said the Likneses had been planning to move to a condo in Mexico for a year and would then return to live in Evansburg, Alta.
“They were investing in cheaper property so they could enjoy the rest of their lives,” he said. “I am sure they were just trying to protect themselves with the money they did have.”

Prevost said he didn’t generally talk money with his sister or her husband, but he didn’t believe the pair to be in financial trouble.

Garland, meanwhile, was released on $750 bail Friday after spending time behind bars on unrelated identity-theft charges. Prevost said it was a “heartbreaker” to know he’d been set free. He, personally, has never met Garland, but confirmed Garland’s sister was in a relationship with one of Alvin’s sons. (For more on Garland’s bail conditions, click here).

Prevost added, “We’re really not finding out anything about this guy that provides potential answers as to what’s going on.”
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(BBM)
Now that I find really interesting.
 
Another morning without any news. My heart goes out to the family and prayers are sent that today will be the day they receive answers.
 
sillybilly said:
Lifestyle Flooring at AL and KL's home address definitely connects to CL (4th hit down on google):

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q="lifestyle+flooring+ltd"+calgary&start=10

When it was registered in March 2012, it had a different address:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/9265019/corporate-registry-registrars-periodical-template/49

So if CL did live at AL and KL's home address, it would appear that it was sometime after the company being registered in 2012.
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CL happens to be the brother who came to the home after AL didn't answer the phone...

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Grandparents+vanish+police+puzzled/9992510/story.html
 
Wow she had a lot of businesses. This must be making it difficult for LE to find "business leads". It also could have been a way for AL and KL to move money around?

"I did a reverse search on KL's cell phone number that returned interesting results. Check it out....

http://www.google.com/search?q=403-6...F-8&gws_rd=ssl"
 
I think the key is in the blood found in the home. If LE knows who the blood belongs too they probably have a a few theories about what occurred that night. It may not even belong to one of the three.

Anyone in Calgary hear anything else about the body found in the river?
 
kaley said:
I think the key is in the blood found in the home. If LE knows who the blood belongs too they probably have a a few theories about what occurred that night. It may not even belong to one of the three.

Anyone in Calgary hear anything else about the body found in the river?
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Still no info in the news about the body in the reservoir .. though, it's not uncommon since the ME office has limited staff on weekends so if it's not suspicious you often don't hear.
 
Has the media slowed down with all the updates and on the scene reporting?
 
sophiebelle said:
Has the media slowed down with all the updates and on the scene reporting?
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Definitely ... I just don't think there's much to report on. Much like us now there isn't anything new :-) ... it would all be speculation. The only thing on the news this morning was the release of the L's home. I hope it stays in the news though to keep people aware ... lots of people in Calgary have this as their fb profile pic though

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sophiebelle said:
Has the media slowed down with all the updates and on the scene reporting?
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The Calgary Herald's live Amber Alert site has not been updated much since Friday. I was following it closely until then.
 
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Hopefully the LE sense the public's (and our) feelings, that there's a huge lull out there, and we need and want to hear from them. Hopefully with more information and/or some confirmation of forensic results, perhaps (trucks, specifically the "green" one, the Airdrie property, the stains at the side door to the driveway, inside the home, landfill finds) or some fresh details they are willing to reveal to further this investigation. I am sure the family needs this as well, if only for reassurance that LE are still working diligently and exploring all possibilities to find the missing family. members.

This seems like an unusually strange case right from the get go, so they maybe need to rethink their strategy in what they're releasing to the public. They may or may not have much, but they certainly have much more than they've shared so far. Maybe it's time to re-engage everyone that's been following this, and keep this case prominent.
 
Menci said:
Hopefully the LE sense the public's (and our) feelings, that there's a huge lull out there, and we need and want to hear from them. Hopefully with more information and/or some confirmation of forensic results, perhaps (trucks, specifically the "green" one, the Airdrie property, the stains at the side door to the driveway, inside the home, landfill finds) or some fresh details they are willing to reveal to further this investigation. I am sure the family needs this as well, if only for reassurance that LE are still working diligently and exploring all possibilities to find the missing family. members.

This seems like an unusually strange case right from the get go, so they maybe need to rethink their strategy in what they're releasing to the public. They may or may not have much, but they certainly have much more than they've shared so far. Maybe it's time to re-engage everyone that's been following this, and keep this case prominent.
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thank you, well put forth.............I never understood how LE could ask for help in this case while the keep us blind folded to the scene
 
bullish said:
Generally the shareholders wouldn't have any liability beyond whatever money they may have lost by the Company going bankrupt (i.e. having purchased shares in a Company that ends up worthless). I believe that in some cases where unfair trading or illegality is shown to have occurred, Directors might be liable, but I'm not certain of the all the conditions.

Winter Petroleum filed a Change of Director/Shareholder on June 25, 2017. I did a Current Search of the Company last week for the basics but would need to do a Certificate of Status search to see the details of that document. I was going to do that this weekend but didn't have time.

It wouldn't surprise me to see that's when AL stepped down as Director.

Winter Petroleum started life as 649028 Alberta Ltd. on Mar. 31, 1995. It filed a name change on July 7, 1995, becoming Winter Petroleum Ltd.

On May 2, 2007 there was a status change listed referring to Failure to File Annual Returns, and a further status change on May 17, 2007 for which I have no description but I'm going to guess they filed because the Company did continue on.

Nov. 20, 2011 they had an address change (I don't have the details).

April 17, 2014 is the date the last annual return was filed.

There are 5 listed voting shareholders (AL isn't one of them) whose names I will not post.

The use of numbered companies in o&g dealings isn't at all unusual. When companies have an acquisition usually one or more numbered companies will be set up and the acquired interests moved from vendor to numbered company (or sequentially more than one) and finally to the purchaser. This is done for tax reasons and is within the framework of legitimate business practice. Just because numbered companies are used doesn't necessarily mean anything nefarious is going on.
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FWIW - I also did a search on this company and found that on June 25, 2014, Al was removed as Director. The company is still active.
 
bakerlady said:
We keep thinking there is someone else involved in this case.

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There was initially a rewards of $100,000 offered and then it was taken back?


http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/missin...-emotional-plea-for-their-superhero-1.1895317

Initial reports: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/07/02/nathan-obrien-missing-amber-alert_n_5551477.html
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Well, it depends who can afford the $100,000, of course. And in addition, maybe there is some reason that LE doesn't want a reward offered. Maybe they are closer to solving this crime that we know, and feel that it would just be a distraction at this point to offer a reward.
 
Im at work so cant post links.. Just saw on our news CBC our POI has been re-ARESSTED!!!!
 
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