Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 June 2014 - #7

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I agree that the web marketing business does not seem like a real web marketing business. It looks like a template was purchased, and the idea was to cut and paste information into the various "place holder" spots. It seemed to me like it was another business venture that didn't have the sort of training, education, and expertise that someone would expect. I didn't know what to think when I first came across that particular business, but I did assume that it probably wasn't connected to the disappearance. I'm not so sure with the numerous oil/gas companies that also have the appearance of lacking expertise. I think there could be a connection between those companies and the disappearance of the grandparents.

Is it posible that the business that the Liknes Family has ties in are all fronts for a "Money Laundering" group, these business links provide very little information to any of the company's the owned and operated over the years and including the recent time, With the modern age of the internet and social networking these businesses show very little activity in that
 
I think the fact is that DG's truck was the absolute only vehicle LE asked to public to help identify. Maybe because it took several trips while most peple in the neighborhood would either be coming, or going or not driving at all because they were sleeping. But certainly he could have been the only vehicle that did not just come, or go in one direction.

I also find it interesting that they have other POI's but b/c he is the owner of the 'mysterious green truck' is the only reason we know about DG. Turns out people did know and pretty soon word would get around town and he would be know as 'the guy who owned the mysterious green truck'.

But supposedly there are more properties that are being searched out in the middle of nowhere but the media has no clue and therefore no one else knows about it. Seems likely.

The fact that there are other POI's also bothers me because why would AL and KL have enemies?

Bankruptcy might seem like a normal part of doing business for some people, but for others, it speaks to character. One person declaring bankruptcy for business reasons could mean that another person loses his house. Personally, I wouldn't do business with, lend money to, socialize with, or even buy drinks for anyone that had declared bankruptcy. Three bankruptcy declarations between the two grandparents in the last 20 years could easily result in enemies.
 
Okay...I knew I'd read this somewhere.....

This article below has a statement from MK one of eight people who lost their job "Winter’s core staff were compensated, although he wasn’t sure about outside partners such as well servicing contractors"
Also noted by MK “unreasonable” and “totally wrong,” were his words in regards to dealing with county officials in NW Alberta. "Claiming county officials taxed the company out of business"

JMOO - This employee doesn't sound 'disgruntled'. Especially if the full article is read....I can't say about the other employees...it does sound as though MK believes it wasn't Winter's 'fault'.

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/10...any-went-bankrupt-weeks-before-disappearance/
 
During the press conferences, did any media reporter ask about this part of the original Amber Alert: "Nathan may be in the company of his grandfather" (omitting grandmother)? If so what's the answer?

Using a bit of inductive logic ... we have drag marks stretching 8 meters from the side door to the parking pad. A child could be carried, and a 200 pound man could not normally be dragged by one person. We have the Medical Examiner at the house, which normally means that there is blood and perhaps death, but not necessarily a body. We have the Amber Alert with a description of all three missing persons, and an additional note that the child may be with his grandfather. That suggests to me that the drag marks are blood, and that the blood is from a female.

From there, I would assume that the grandfather was asked to go outside to discuss business, and the grandmother and child remained in the house. Perhaps the grandfather sat in his truck to discuss patents, or money, and perhaps he sat in the suspicious green truck to do the same. I think he was attacked in one of the trucks. If he was attacked in the green truck, given that I think this was pre-meditated, I think that the owner placed plastic on the seats with an explanation that his mint condition truck is being preserved. After the grandfather was attacked, I think the grandmother was attacked, and her blood is represented in the drag marks. I don't want to think about what happened to the child, but the perp may have decided on a soft kill because it was a child. I obviously don't believe that any of these victims is alive. I don't think they were alive when the sun came up on June 30.

I think the green truck left the area with three bodies, the driver put the bodies in a premeditated location that he knows well, he then returned to the crime scene to clean up after himself, and he left for the last time between 4 and 4:30AM.

I think it's also possible that the owner of the mint condition green truck had extra seats for the truck and that he could have replaced them in the five days that he had between the discovery of the crime scene, and the time that he was detained for questioning.
 
I think it's also possible that the owner of the mint condition green truck had extra seats for the truck and that he could have replaced them in the five days that he had between the discovery of the crime scene, and the time that he was detained for questioning.
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Old seats might explain the burning that was taking place on the farm.
 
Why do you think this, LS?

Because if it was I think things would not be such a mystery. Also if the blood was someone else's to me, it would explain why it was cleaned up ) or attempted to be cleaned up)
I'd the peeps went there and hurt one of the 3 missing and then kidnaped them, why would they clean it up?


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From there, I would assume that the grandfather was asked to go outside to discuss business,........ Perhaps the grandfather sat in his truck to discuss patents, or money, and perhaps he sat in the suspicious green truck to do the same. I think he was attacked in one of the trucks. If he was attacked in the green truck, given that I think this was pre-meditated,
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I think the green truck left the area with three bodies,

I tend to think that if it's premeditated, the perp would drive a different vehicle than a pickup truck, a vehicle that has more room inside, instead of a flat bed. Also it doesn't seem (to me) very likely AL would go out to sit in a truck to discuss business. My 1 cent...
 
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Police officer walks back toward open garage where other officers carefully examining every item inside

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Items searched in garage include clothes, cardboard boxes, coolers, fire extinguisher, wood piece, paint pails, aerosol spray cans, etc.

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Some items are examined, then returned to where they were originally found. Others are being added to a growing pile on the garage floor.

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@CalgaryPolice really meant it when they said they weren't leaving any stone unturned. Literally every garage item being examined carefully

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I tend to think that if it's premeditated, the perp would drive a different vehicle than a pickup truck, a vehicle that has more room inside, instead of a flat bed. Also it doesn't seem (to me) very likely AL would go out to sit in a truck to discuss business. My 1 cent...

This statement leads me back to the abandoned black SUV at the property north of DG lands, Whos SUV and was it part of the investigation
 
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2 officers are meticulously combing through the garage of Kathryn and Alvin Liknes' Parkhill home, every box, every pail carefully examined.

Maybe they had some discovery at DG's home, and came back to look for something in particular to match/confirm something.
 
This statement leads me back to the abandoned black SUV at the property north of DG lands, Whos SUV and was it part of the investigation

I was actually going to say "such as an SUV" in my #67 that you quoted. I totally missed the report about an abandoned black SUV!
 
Using a bit of inductive logic ... we have drag marks stretching 8 meters from the side door to the parking pad. A child could be carried, and a 200 pound man could not normally be dragged by one person. We have the Medical Examiner at the house, which normally means that there is blood and perhaps death, but not necessarily a body. We have the Amber Alert with a description of all three missing persons, and an additional note that the child may be with his grandfather. That suggests to me that the drag marks are blood, and that the blood is from a female.

From there, I would assume that the grandfather was asked to go outside to discuss business, and the grandmother and child remained in the house. Perhaps the grandfather sat in his truck to discuss patents, or money, and perhaps he sat in the suspicious green truck to do the same. I think he was attacked in one of the trucks. If he was attacked in the green truck, given that I think this was pre-meditated, I think that the owner placed plastic on the seats with an explanation that his mint condition truck is being preserved. After the grandfather was attacked, I think the grandmother was attacked, and her blood is represented in the drag marks. I don't want to think about what happened to the child, but the perp may have decided on a soft kill because it was a child. I obviously don't believe that any of these victims is alive. I don't think they were alive when the sun came up on June 30.

I think the green truck left the area with three bodies, the driver put the bodies in a premeditated location that he knows well, he then returned to the crime scene to clean up after himself, and he left for the last time between 4 and 4:30AM.

I think it's also possible that the owner of the mint condition green truck had extra seats for the truck and that he could have replaced them in the five days that he had between the discovery of the crime scene, and the time that he was detained for questioning.

I think along similar lines, otto, I just don't think (and I'm sorry for being graphic now) that changing the seats would be enough to get rid of all the blood which surely must have been everywhere if this was a stabbing or even a shooting (with silencer). Not only all over the cabin of the truck but also all over the perp, and then transferred on the door handle, the steering wheel, etc. If someone was killed in the truck or killed in the house with blood seeping from their body and then transported in the truck, the truck would tell the story. So either this is not what happened or LE have the wrong truck under the microscope, or they did find plenty in the truck but they don't tell?
 
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