Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 June 2014 - #7

[Wondergirl]

1st degree on Liknes' and 2nd degree on the child

 

[zwiebel]

Pre-intent is criteria for 1st degree murder charges.

 

[Carol]

Chief on the 1st and 2nd degree charges:

UPDATE: Chief says he can speak to 1st and 2nd degree generally:

"First is when you can show pre-intent"

"Second is when pre-intent, the intent to commit the act, may not be there"

 

[Carol]

1st degree charges on grandparents, 2nd degree on child

 

[peony27]

No, no other people will be charged!

I thought they said they charged one person already. I guess I heard that wrong.

 

[2Hope4]

speechless...just speechless :tantrum:

 

[zwiebel]

Just a guess - the suspect had no idea little Nathan would be there. He was collateral damage.

 

[Carol]

Reporter: "would the person accused help locate the bodies and provide closure"

Chief: "Can't speculate on what a suspect or accused person might do"

 

[rizzo0904]

I thought they said they charged one person already. I guess I heard that wrong.

The initially said only one person charged at this time. Then they were asked about other suspects and responded NO.

 

[matou]

He was arrested near the vicinity of the acreage not at the hotel.

 

[peony27]

Okay I heard wrong the person in custody will be charged later today. Horrible day for the family, my heart goes out to them .

 

[The_Axis]

"Arrested on property in the vicinity of the acreage" DG WENT BACK!?

 

[Bravo]

I am so very sad to hear this. RIP

 

[zwiebel]

Suspect not arrested at hotel. Resident's acreage.

 

[peony27]

Did it cut out for anyone else?

 

[Bravo]

"Arrested on property in the vicinity of the acreage" DG WENT BACK!?

That was my first thought

 

[Wondergirl]

you're quoting that out of context. it wasn't a definitive statement.

That's not *exactly* what he said, just mentioned as a possibility/rationalization of the Amber Alert

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[Carol]

Here's a strange bit, and the conclusion of the press conference:

Chief: "Can't even confirm the identity of the person arrested."

Person wasn't arrested at a hotel, but near an acreage in Airdrie.

Reporter: "was the person arrested breaching their conditions"

Chief: (shuts down press conference)

 

[ztzt]

First degree murder (premeditation) for the Likneses, second degree murder (premeditation may not be there) for the child.
I can't imagine how regretful JO feels to have left Nathan for the sleepover!!

I'm convinced now that killer acted that crucial day because it's "Now or never" for his revenge.

 

[peony27]

Here's a strange bit, and the conclusion of the press conference:

Chief: "Can't even confirm the identity of the person arrested."

Person wasn't arrested at a hotel, but near an acreage in Airdrie.

Reporter: "was the person arrested breaching their conditions"

Chief: (shuts down press conference)

Smart chief